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When Should We Label Something 'Terrorism'?

After the attacks on the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, the word "terrorism" was everywhere. The attacks themselves were immediately labeled terrorism, and the U.S. multiplied its efforts to find and root out terrorist groups, both at home and abroad. Thus, the U.S. War on Terror began.

Certainly the destruction of the Twin Towers constituted an act of terrorism. But in the years since, many have been vocal about the potential risks of using the term too broadly. The danger, some analysts argue, comes when communities, religious and ethnic groups, or even entire countries, get associated with or portrayed as terrorists, and then policed and surveilled as such.

Conversations about when and how to label something or someone a "terrorist" resurfaced at the beginning of 2021, when hundreds stormed the U.S. Capitol Building on January 6. So today, we're revisiting this piece from the beginning of the year about the stakes of the label terrorist.

What do you call the people who violently stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6? Rioters? Insurrectionists? Terrorists? After the attack, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi used all three labels.

Linda Sarsour, a Muslim, Palestinian American activist with a huge social media following, tweeted, "This is domestic terrorism. Period," and Republican Rep. Nancy Mace from South Carolina also used the label "domestic terrorist" in a tweet.

The people who assaulted police officers to break into the Capitol and hold Congress hostage weren't patriots. They were domestic terrorists. We must stop coddling extremists and rebuild our party as the party that respects rule of law, not violence wrapped in the American flag. -- Rep Nancy Mace

There's an ongoing debate about that term. People who think it's the most precise word to describe what happened on Jan. 6 say that pro-Trump mob fits a dictionary definition of a terrorist: a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

Melina Abdullah, a Black Lives Matter organizer and Pan-African studies professor at California State University, Los Angeles, uses "terrorism" to describe what we saw that day. "What they're attempting to do is terrorize," Abdullah says. "What they're attempting to do is elicit a response that comes out of fear." But Abdullah gets even more specific, calling the group "white supremacist terrorists."

"To use the term white supremacist terrorism helps us to unpack what it means to be a threat to the state," she argues. The terrorist label has been used against Black and Muslim-identified Americans as an excuse to surveil and criminalize those communities, she says, while what she calls "white supremacist terrorists" are organizing coup attempts on social media platforms with few repercussions.

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Tuesday, September 28th 2021 at 11:26PM
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Kassem cites historical examples of this, notably the aftermath of the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing. He says there's no disputing who was responsible: a white, right-wing man named Timothy McVeigh. Kassem says, "The very next year, there's a legislative response, and there are two laws that are passed: The Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act, and an immigration law called IIRA-IRA. Those laws have been used primarily against Black and immigrant folks in this country."


Tuesday, September 28th 2021 at 11:32PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
What happened on Jan 6th was a clear case of White Supremacist Domestic Terrorism


Wednesday, September 29th 2021 at 12:06AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Look out Ron, the white supremacist terrorists are coming for you.

Wednesday, September 29th 2021 at 2:58AM
Steve Williams
Was that it? Is that all you GOT is threats? That is a Shame that I have taken the power of that LIE, and shown you that the information is real and has been proven to be true, why do you want to believe's TRUMP'S "BIG LIE" after seeing this evidence, Steve?


Wednesday, September 29th 2021 at 12:47PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Haven't you figured out yet Ron, you are the one creating white supremacist terrorists. January 6 has nothing to do with terrorism or racial animosity.

Wednesday, September 29th 2021 at 3:22PM
Steve Williams
What does January 6th mean to you then Steve if, that was not, white supremacist Domestic terrorist actions, with real live White Groups like the Proud Boys, Maga, KKK, Minute Men, The Three Percenters, The Oath Keepers, Texas Freedom Force and other self-described Nazis and White Supremacists who to the siege of The U.S. Captial if that was not WHITE SUPREMACIST DOMESTIC TERRORISM, then I don't know what it is?

This act of domestic terrorism was done by the White Americas to the U.S. Capital Steve.

Now if this act was done by a Black Group like Black Lives Matter or The Black Panthers, you would have NO Problem in condemning that act of TRUMP'S Lying to people like you, without any proof, Believe at DAMN BIG LIE, you would condemn that action, just like me.


Wednesday, September 29th 2021 at 5:39PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
The Proud Boys were brought in by Joe Biden. They're his group, a direct reaction to him, since he was the one that invoked them.

Wednesday, September 29th 2021 at 9:55PM
Steve Williams
We don't like being called white supremacists Ron. Those are fighting words.

Wednesday, September 29th 2021 at 9:56PM
Steve Williams
Wouldn’t stop attacking other Americans and American beliefs, this is not Nazi Germany.


Wednesday, September 29th 2021 at 10:33PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
You folks have filthy mouths Ron, invoking Nazi Germany just because you hate your fellow citizens who cast our votes for someone not of your ilk. Any bad thing you see now can all be traced back to your rejection of the people's choice in 2016. And that was after we gave you Barack Obama. Ingrates.

Thursday, September 30th 2021 at 12:58AM
Steve Williams
“Jews will not replace us!!!” That was your cry, as you and your Fellow desperate domestic terrorist marched through the streets. (That won’t happen.)

You and your boys are acting like those HEATHEN, The Devil’s Offsprings when you took siege U.S. Capital Building, running through that building all because TRUMP LIED to people like you because you did not want to honor the change of powers.

So you believe THE BIG LIE and you cannot tell me or anyone here on Black In America, WHY do you still believe that BIG LIE now can you?

Answer the question STEVE and STOP your BULL 💩 NOW!!




Thursday, September 30th 2021 at 8:48AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
What do you call the people who violently stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6? Rioters? Insurrectionists? Terrorists? After the attack, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi used all three labels.


Thursday, September 30th 2021 at 8:50AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
They weren't terrorists Ron. They were rioters with a variety of motives but none of it was to terrorize, it was to stop the steal. I have never said “Jews will not replace us!!!” nor would I. I think its a damn shame that General Lee was taken down. It was a magnificent work of art. My ancestors fought for freedom in both the Revolutionary War and the Civil War and we are correct to memorialize them. In 2021 we are all equals, stop whining about the past Ron.

Thursday, September 30th 2021 at 9:32AM
Steve Williams
That is right Steve, "YOU" did come to stop the steal by hanging Mike Pence and Shooting Nancy Pelois in the head. Steve, those are acts of violence is what terrorists do, they cause confusion through the power of THE BIG LIE, which is something you have not shown me any proof why you believe that weak as- BULL💩 in the first place.

YOU can't prove a thing you have said yet or why you believe TRUMP'S BIG LIE.

Tell me why you still believe TRUMP BIG LIE after all this time?




Thursday, September 30th 2021 at 10:47AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Saying something and doing something are different things, and the people who said those things were a tiny fraction of the total number of those assembled.

Ron, how do you figure you'll benefit by calling upright citizens of the opposite party, terrorists?

Thursday, September 30th 2021 at 2:56PM
Steve Williams
Because of their actions Steve.

What message are you sending when you are recorded, breaking windows, spreading Feces on the walls of The U.S. Captial, breaking windows, beating and spraying Capital Police with tear gas and you are telling me what message again?

YOU can't prove a thing you have said yet or why you believe TRUMP'S BIG LIE.

Tell me why you still believe TRUMP BIG LIE after all this time?



Thursday, September 30th 2021 at 5:14PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
I'm talking about the multitude, the vast majority, of those who committed no violence.

Thursday, September 30th 2021 at 7:43PM
Steve Williams
You can't even talk about the same subject.

I am talking about TRUMP'S BIG LIE. Steve, Tell me why you still believe TRUMP BIG LIE after all this evidence and time?



Thursday, September 30th 2021 at 8:51PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Stop lying Ron. You are calling all folks that look like me, terrorists. You're a racist pure and simple.

Friday, October 1st 2021 at 2:15AM
Steve Williams
I asked you a question: I am talking about TRUMP'S BIG LIE. Steve, Tell me why you still believe TRUMP BIG LIE after all this evidence and time?

When does asking you a question equals a LIE Steve? Only in a weak as mind like yours.

The question was: I am talking about TRUMP'S BIG LIE. Steve, Tell me why you still believe TRUMP BIG LIE after all this evidence and time?


Friday, October 1st 2021 at 9:16AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
You said this and I said you're a liar:

"You can't even talk about the same subject."

Liar. I am talking about THE BIG LIE, The subject is "terrorists."

Friday, October 1st 2021 at 11:04PM
Steve Williams
The question that I asked you was directed to you. You can walk and chew gum at the same time, can't you?

I am talking about TRUMP'S BIG LIE. Steve, Tell me why you still believe TRUMP BIG LIE after all this evidence and time?


Friday, October 1st 2021 at 11:25PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
I've told you Ron. I was a disenfranchised voter in 2020. My vote was not secure. The machine malfunctioned and I had no identification number for my ballot, as I had in every other year I had voted.

Saturday, October 2nd 2021 at 12:06AM
Steve Williams
You walked out of that polling place not satisfied that your vote was registered, is that what you are telling me, Steve?


Saturday, October 2nd 2021 at 12:27AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
I wasn't running the election Ron. I asked one of the folks who WAS running the election and I told you what the answer was:

A) The machine had been acting up all morning. Do you think that poll worker was properly trained?

B) The ballot no longer had a stub with a matching number on it. Do you think that was a good legislative act?

Saturday, October 2nd 2021 at 1:35AM
Steve Williams
The voter is the most important people on earth because of the mission. Now, I never asked you who was running the Election and A) if you was told The machine had been acting up all morning, I would not have left that place, if I thought my vote did not register.

What did you do when you found out that your vote ballot no longer had a stub with a matching number on it?



Saturday, October 2nd 2021 at 3:22AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
I didn't wave a magic wand, that's for sure.

I contacted the Chester County election authorities and reported the problem.

Saturday, October 2nd 2021 at 12:34PM
Steve Williams
So now you know, why I know, the 2020 election was rigged. Chester County went for Biden and they cheated to do it.

Saturday, October 2nd 2021 at 12:36PM
Steve Williams
Of course I could tell you about my nephew's experience too. There were multiple mistakes made by CHESTER COUNTY (again), with his mail-in ballot. But the biggest corruption was in Philadelphia, hands down.

Saturday, October 2nd 2021 at 12:40PM
Steve Williams
Steve, You need to STOP LYING!!!

So, you left the polling place without voting?
Saturday, October 2nd 2021 at 4:21PM
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