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What Overturning Roe v. Wade could Mean for Most Vulnerable Birmingham Times - By Ben Jealous The political and legal movement to criminalize abortion in the U.S. is on the brink of its biggest victory in 50 years. Most at risk are those who are already among the most vulnerable in our country: Black and brown women and LGBTQ people who will be denied access to potentially lifesaving health care. On Dec. 1, the U.S. Supreme Court heard arguments in the case of a Mississippi abortion ban. That law was written by a right-wing legal group. It was part of a long-term strategy to get the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade, the 1973 ruling that recognized that pregnant people have a constitutional right to make decisions about whether or not to terminate a pregnancy. READ MORE: What Overturning Roe v. Wade could Mean for Most Vulnerable http://www.birminghamtimes.com/2021/12/wha...
Posted By: Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Monday, October 24th 2022 at 10:23PM
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The most vulnerable are the little babies you can no longer slaughter at will.
Tuesday, October 25th 2022 at 12:19PM
Steve Williams
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Tell me something Steve, would you want your 10-year girl to carry and give birth to your brother's child?
Would you want your wife to die because of complications with the fetus, when the technology exists to save your wife's life by giving her an abortion?
I want you to answer each of those questions Steve?
Tuesday, October 25th 2022 at 6:56PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Women (and men) will always insist on killing the unborn. It shouldn't be done without a good reason Ron. It shouldn't be done like my wife did, because she was irresponsible about preventing pregnancy, and didn't want to give up drugs to save the life of her unborn baby. And believe me, America is full of this sort of woman. It's disgraceful how little they (and you) value life.
Tuesday, October 25th 2022 at 8:54PM
Steve Williams
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Ok!!! We will try this again:
1. Tell me something Steve, would you want your 10-year girl to carry and give birth to your brother's child?
Let’s start with this question first, can you handle that?
Tuesday, October 25th 2022 at 9:05PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I don't have a 10 year-old girl Ron. I did have a wife that had multiple abortions, her whole life long, simply because she was lazy.
In most cases, maybe all cases, a 10 year-old girl is too young to safely have a baby. So in this case, most likely an abortion would be justified to save the life of the mother.
Tuesday, October 25th 2022 at 9:54PM
Steve Williams
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I agree with you Steve, a 10-year-old girl would most likely to have an abortion of your brother's child, would be justified to save the life of the mother.
Now to my second question and by the way Steve and I appreciate the dialog. Providing you had a loving wife, who love you.
MY QUESTION: Would you want your wife to die because of complications with the fetus, when the technology exists to save your wife's life by giving her an abortion?
Tuesday, October 25th 2022 at 11:09PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Why does it need to be personal Ron? No woman should die of complications, but if the baby would survive, the mother could make a noble sacrifice. It would be her choice.
Wednesday, October 26th 2022 at 2:54AM
Steve Williams
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Then it should be the woman’s choice anyway and that choice should stay between her and her doctor and NOT the state or The U. S. Government, do you understand that?
Wednesday, October 26th 2022 at 9:43AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Abortion is governed by State law now Ron. You will need to pass a law in the U.S. Congress to change the situation. I don't approve of PA State law on abortion, but I think we will be able to make a better law soon. I've held a 5 month-old aborted baby in my hands Ron. 23 weeks is too long to allow for elective abortions.
Wednesday, October 26th 2022 at 12:35PM
Steve Williams
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Steve this is what Roe V Wade was about. The court divided pregnancy into three trimesters, and declared that the choice to end a pregnancy in the first trimester was solely up to the woman. In the second trimester, the government could regulate abortion, although not ban it, in order to protect the mother’s health.
In the third trimester, the state could prohibit abortion to protect a fetus that could survive on its own outside the womb, except when a woman’s health was in danger.
Wednesday, October 26th 2022 at 1:34PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Roe v. Wade was never correct Ron. It was ill-founded. There is no U.S. Constitutional protection for abortion.
Wednesday, October 26th 2022 at 2:14PM
Steve Williams
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The court held in 1973 that a woman’s right to an abortion was implicit in the right to privacy protected by the 14th Amendment to the Constitution. Roe v. Wade https://www.history.com/topics/womens-righ...
You Stand Corrected, there is U.S. Constitutional protection for abortion.
Wednesday, October 26th 2022 at 8:10PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Wrong Ron, that decision was overturned because it was wrong. It was wrong, because there is NO Constitutional right to abortion.
Thursday, October 27th 2022 at 1:22AM
Steve Williams
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I see that you never did click on the link, now did you?
Thursday, October 27th 2022 at 8:08AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Ron, you can't make a Constitutional "right" magically appear in 1973 by judicial fiat, and magically disappear in 2022 by judicial fiat. A Constitutional right is immutable, except according to the Constitutional provisions for amending the Constitution. The Supreme Court in 1973 subverted the legislative due process, precisely because the objective of legalized murder of the unborn could not be achieved legislatively, and could not in the intervening 50 years, and to this day CANNOT PASS THE CONGRESS.
Thursday, October 27th 2022 at 1:14PM
Steve Williams
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IF YOU WOULD HAVE CLICKED ON THE LINE, YOU WOULD HAVE READ THIS: Roe v. Wade was a landmark legal decision issued on January 22, 1973, in which the U.S. Supreme Court struck down a Texas statute banning abortion, effectively legalizing the procedure across the United States. The court held that a woman’s right to an abortion was implicit in the right to privacy protected by the 14th Amendment to the Constitution.
Steve, do you know when The 14th Amendment to the Constitution changed?
Thursday, October 27th 2022 at 6:19PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Ron, point out to me "the right to privacy protected by the 14th Amendment."
Thursday, October 27th 2022 at 6:40PM
Steve Williams
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Amdt5.4.5.2.4.2.1 Right to an Abortion
Fifth Amendment:
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Amdt5.4.5.2.4.2.1 Right to an Abortion Fifth Amendment: https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution-c...
Thursday, October 27th 2022 at 7:06PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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That's the 5th amendment not the 14th but regardless, there still is nothing about a "right to privacy" Ron.
Friday, October 28th 2022 at 12:32AM
Steve Williams
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You are correct Steve, this is The fifth amendment that also supports the rape for woman to have an abortion.
ROE V. WADE
What is the 14th Amendment and How is It Connected to Abortion Rights, Roe v. Wade?
The 14th Amendment was passed by Congress in 1866 and ratified in 1868 https://www.nbcchicago.com/tag/roe-v-wade/ ROE V. WADE
Friday, October 28th 2022 at 4:24AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Biden Promises to Codify Abortion Rights If Dems Win Majority in the Midterms?
Even MSNBC knows there will be a clean sweep on November 8 Ron.
Friday, October 28th 2022 at 11:24AM
Steve Williams
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This blog is not about the election Steve, this blog is about "What Overturning Roe v. Wade could Mean for Most Vulnerable," let's get back on topic, OK!
Friday, October 28th 2022 at 1:13PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I thought you wanted to talk about the right to privacy Ron. Did you get cold feet?
Friday, October 28th 2022 at 6:26PM
Steve Williams
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If you thought I wanted to talk about the right to privacy then why are you asking me this question: Biden Promises to Codify Abortion Rights If Dems Win Majority in the Midterms?
You are all confused, take my hand and follow me. Steve, this blog is about "What Overturning Roe v. Wade could Mean for Most Vulnerable," let's get back on topic and stop making excuses and answer the question OK!
Now Stop running from me Steve and answer the question.
Friday, October 28th 2022 at 8:04PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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"Biden Promises to Codify Abortion Rights If Dems Win Majority in the Midterms" is the only thing I found at your link Ron, about Roe v. Wade.
Friday, October 28th 2022 at 8:14PM
Steve Williams
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OK!!! Then go to the top of this blog, then click on the link and then read the article and then come back and tell me and the people here on Black In America your view on the subject, can you do that Steve?
Friday, October 28th 2022 at 9:30PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Your acticle is outdated Ron.
Friday, October 28th 2022 at 10:28PM
Steve Williams
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This article is less than a year old as you continue to run like hell from me and the question. My article is still the topic of this day. Let's try it again Steve, regardless of this date December 9, 2021.
OK!!! Then go to the top of this blog, then click on the link and then read the article and then come back and tell me and the people here on Black In America your view on the subject, can you do that Steve?
Friday, October 28th 2022 at 10:44PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I read your article Ron. My view on the subject hasn't changed. I was hoping to find something on the right to privacy, and instead I found less than I already knew.
Friday, October 28th 2022 at 11:25PM
Steve Williams
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Steve, if you read my article like I asked you, then you already know, I asked you to come back and tell me and the people here on Black In America your views on the subject and you ran like hell again from me, WHY Steve?
Saturday, October 29th 2022 at 3:34PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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"Pregnant people have a constitutional right to make decisions about whether or not to terminate a pregnancy."
That's FALSE.
Saturday, October 29th 2022 at 4:17PM
Steve Williams
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So you can't me what you read, Steve? I asked you to come back and tell me and the people here on Black In America your views on the subject and you ran like hell again from me, WHY Steve, WOW?
Saturday, October 29th 2022 at 4:22PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I quoted your article Ron, and I gave you my judgment. FALSE. Ben Jealous is FALSE. A LIER. Like you.
Saturday, October 29th 2022 at 4:34PM
Steve Williams
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