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There was a poll released today that showed that 27% of Democrats would be voting for John McCain in November. That's almost a third of all Democrats. So what does that mean? If a person is a Democrat they generally believe in universal health care, policies that favor the middle class, they believe in a woman's right to choose, etc. So what this poll is indicating is that these people, 27% of the party (or perhaps even more), are willing to toss away their core values and cross party lines. Why? Because Barack Obama didn't pick Hillary Clinton as his running mate? Or was it because he didn't consult with her and thereby in their minds disrespected Clinton? Is this really about that? Or is there something more insidious behind the mass exodus from the Democratic Party? I have long felt that the Democratic Party has used the African-American vote, giving us little in return. In fact, it was the Bush policies that saw more of us own our own homes than ever before. It was a Republican who put the second African-American on the Supreme Court, something Clinton had a couple of chances in eight years to do but never did. (Okay, Clarence Thomas may not be a good example for black progression, but you get my point). The Democratic party has always counted on our vote as long as we stayed in our place. But now that a black man might actually gain the seat, look at what's happening. We saw it during the primaries with the ugly, racially tinged campaigning by the Clintons. And we're seeing it now. So my ultimate question: Is this really about some perceived diss by Obama against Clinton or are white people (not all, of course), truly not ready to see a black man as president?
Posted By: Karen Hunter
Sunday, August 24th 2008 at 11:12PM
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Woo! That last sentence is really the issue and the media is trying to cover it up, if you ask me. The media is trying to give white democrates the "out" they need to bow out gracefully. What else could it be. Obama has did everything he needed to do. He did such a great job, that black people are suspicious of his motives.
Sunday, August 24th 2008 at 11:40PM
Kenneth X
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Mozell and Kenneth, thanks for your comments. I just hoped that we could finally move beyond this race thing. But I guess not.
Sunday, August 24th 2008 at 11:53PM
Karen Hunter
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A divided people is a conquered people...Have we learned anything from our past experiences????
Monday, August 25th 2008 at 2:05AM
Douglas Burnett
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The Democrats who decide to vote for John McCain are not ready for a black president, which I think we all knew deep inside, but hopefully "Black People" sre ready enough to do their part in making this happen.
Monday, August 25th 2008 at 8:05AM
Emmanuel Brown
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Irma, you are spot on! But what would happen if half of the black folks registered as Republican? And we made demands? Would they be forced to deal with us?
Monday, August 25th 2008 at 8:47AM
Karen Hunter
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Mister, politicians are basically the same--democrat or republican. Wasn't the Republican party the one that freed the slaves? And the democrats wanted to hold on to the ways of the South. I believe the party thing is meaningless. They're all rich white folks (Obama is the only black in the Senate) who care about their own interests, not ours. This political game is tough because either way, it doesn't really benefit us on a national scale.
Monday, August 25th 2008 at 8:51AM
Karen Hunter
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I have been an Independant since my legal age to vote. I always felt fishy about both parties thats why I didn't select any one of them. Now that I am in my 30's I am glad I did. At the time I choose Independant because I wantd to be able choose from either Democrate or Republican but to be honest I think I always pick the Democrate. So I just I'm a Democrate in wolves clothing. :)
Monday, August 25th 2008 at 9:00AM
Kenneth X
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MJ, that has been the case for me for the Presidential races, but I have been a little more diverse on the local level however.
Monday, August 25th 2008 at 9:16AM
Kenneth X
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Let be real here. This mass exodus of die-hard Democrats is directly linked to Barack Obama's skin color. White America has never atoned for its crimes against humanity; therefore, it would rather place one of their own in office than have a black man force their hand.
If an apology to black Americans and other persons of color is forthcoming, I would rather it come after Senator Obama is out of office. This apology would seem insincere if it was issued by a black man.
Blessings.
Monday, August 25th 2008 at 11:07AM
J. A. Faulkerson
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Wow. Linda. You said it all!
Monday, August 25th 2008 at 12:49PM
Karen Hunter
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Absolutely. Some white people do not think that a black person is capable of that kind of position. The color of Obama's skin is what holds him back in many red states. People are still brainwashed in believeing the rumors about blacks as being inferior, when in fact it was white people that built the negative images of blacks that never seems 2 subside, and I wonder why? It's almost like it doesn't matter how educated we are, how Christian we are or how great our reputation is. Because when it comes down 2 it only 1 thing matters, the color of our skin.
Monday, August 25th 2008 at 1:39PM
L A
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Karen, as a white person on this website. I will answer your question as I see it. I see it as it is true. White people aren't ready to see a Black President. We can't get a white president to do his job. I personally don't know who I am voting for. I would love to see someone different (even if it means race) in the white house). Let the black president try. He can't do any worse than the President we have now. My biggest fear, is that someone will try to assinate him. That is the last thing I want for Obama and his family. Obama has changes in view. I like most of what Obama wants. Then on the other side, a hear a lot of blacks (I am not saying anyone of this forum) say that if Obama doesn't get elected, then the blacks are going to assinate McCain. Either way, I don't know whats going to happen.
Monday, August 25th 2008 at 2:47PM
Jessica Dillon
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Jessica, the fact that you're on your site says a lot about your sensibilities. You're not typical. I have never heard a single person say they would assassinate McCain. That's crazy.
Monday, August 25th 2008 at 4:00PM
Karen Hunter
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Wow...a lot has been said. Here is where I stand. Democrats / Republican are simply code words to define the current power structure. Honestly if we really were to do some simple examination, we'd realize that the privilege of voting has been manipulated over time maintain a basic balance of power. Neither side really benefits us. It is our job to learn and bring the water back to the land. Now don't mistake that for a reason to not participate. You must. That is the only way you learn work within and move outside. Is this a race issue? Yes, but isn't everything? The entire race is about something completely bigger than what is being discussed. Notice how many states reverted back to closed primary voting THIS election season. Notice how not one single issue pertaining to civil liberties have been given any attention by either candidate. Are we really ready for this ride?
Monday, August 25th 2008 at 7:44PM
Tekoah Bellazer
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Do we have a choice but to be ready? I mean we can NOT vote, but then what?
Monday, August 25th 2008 at 8:05PM
Karen Hunter
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I think its obvious that this is about race. We all know that Obama is the best choice for the white house and McCain would do more harm than a little bit. So many people have done everything they can to make Obama drop from the race. Whenever it is election time they always try to get the"black vote" no matter its republican or democrat. For example, John McCain shook hands with Young Jeezy and now Jeezy has broadcasted he will be voting for McCain because he shook his hand like a man. What kind of of crap is that? I think no matter what you do or who you are if you are a black person, white people will always have a problem with it.
Tuesday, August 26th 2008 at 11:18AM
chivonne lawson
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To Mikkel White, what are you a racist? Saying you people. Yes they do try to get the black vote each and evertime. When else do you see politicians trying to reach out to the black community? You tell me cause I don't see any other time. So a hypocritical, I think not. You damn right Obama is gonna have a big percentage of the black population. Its the first time in history when someone who looks like us could possibly be president of the United States, making him the most powerful man in the world. You obviously haven't been keeping up with this election. The race card has been played. No one said it was an issue for white people to get the black vote. Its an issue when people know what's best for this country but refuse to vote for that person because the color of their skin. Another thing show me in my statement where I said McCain is playing the race card. By the way if black people are so terrible, why are you a member of Black In America, a website for black people, in a blog by black people? Not only are you a racist, you're ignorant, lonely, bored, and you need Jesus. I'm gonna pray for you Mikkel White.
Tuesday, August 26th 2008 at 5:06PM
chivonne lawson
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I forgot to mention illerate, I didn't say white people are trying to get the black vote I said republican or democrat.
Tuesday, August 26th 2008 at 5:13PM
chivonne lawson
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What happened to Mr. White? It seems as though he is a bit cowardice. I haven't seen him come back to respond. he has every right to voice his opinion. But I would like to see him answer to some of these well-thought-out responses to his comments.
Tuesday, August 26th 2008 at 7:36PM
Karen Hunter
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Karen,
I did no such thing as to thinking well of Mr White or his "you people" comment. Makes one wonder why take the time to join BIA if your going to insult the very people on the site.
Tuesday, August 26th 2008 at 7:41PM
GREGORY GULLEY
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Hold up my brothers and my siters--there is no need to stoop to Mr. white's level--we are a prouder bigger people today--the you people comment should be worn on our wrist to where we just shake it off--I would also like to say to remember in Eden God created one Man and one Woman the entire human family are derived from those two people; thus making the human family the only race--"The Human Race" we are made up of all diferrent creeds and colors but like it or not we are one 7 billion strong family--if we think about it for a minute Dr.Martin Luther King spoke of a reuniting of the human family in his "I had a dream" speech--that mountain top experience where sees children of all creeds and colors holding hands is exactly what I am bringing to the table tonite--let the dividing walls come down--we are all on the same ship heading into the same direction it is called the future--hollabck yuall--
Wednesday, August 27th 2008 at 12:34AM
john mitchell
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I've been clear on this topic from the outset. There's no way in hell tens of millions of white people are planning to vote for Obama in November. They may talk a good game, but It'll never happen. On the flip side, you might think that Black Republicans who publicly endorse McCain might go in the booth and secretly cast their pathetic weasel vote for
the black guy' (just on G.P...ya know), but it'll never happen. I'll believe it when I see it, and I still ain't seen it. Just like the white people on this thread have made clear. There is no bigger group of haters and oppressors and snakes on the globe than Europeans and their descendents. You trust them at your own peril.
Wednesday, August 27th 2008 at 4:29AM
Curly Morris
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It is imperative that we look at this process and keep in mind the powerful media that suggests ideas and ideals that unfortunately manipulate the thoughts and perspectives of the citizens of this country. The media would love all to believe that this Movement is'nt as profound as it really is. We must remain vigilant in spreading the word, and challenging others to get involved this time. For this time is unlike no other...This time can truly change America for all.
Be Strong in Mind and Spirit.
YES WE CAN...
Saturday, September 6th 2008 at 6:56AM
Anthony Bridgeforth
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Curly ease up.
Whites will vote for Barack. Whites truly support Barack. I hope and pray that Blacks will be vigilant in their support of Barack. At no time in our lifetime has our vote meant as much as it does right now. This "Movement "will a have monumental impact on the life and choices the we as a people take for granted on a daily basis.
BELIEVE - DREAM - HOPE - CHANGE WE MUST BELIEVE IN.
YES WE CAN
Saturday, September 6th 2008 at 7:06AM
Anthony Bridgeforth
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The only thing missing from the YOU PEOPLE is the waving of the Confedarate flag in that comment.
(smile, to the racist movement for it is still not working on anyone but you in your small minded world)
President Michelle Obama in 2017,end of story....
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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And even much, much worst than skin color or gender, the word is out that in Hillary's speech tonight she is not even going to show any concern at all over John MCcain using her as sound bites against Obama. She is going to talk about these sound bites as some kind of JOKE!!!????WAKE UP Americans.
W-H-A-T????????. This statement was followed by this is the best chance for Hillary to be able to run in 4 years and not in 8 years if Obama is elected. For me, the way it is going it seem Mrs. Obama has the best chances of being the first female president in the U.S.A...And as Bishop Tu Tu said, "a member of a race" that has moved up from slavery to having (maybe)the biggest JOB in the most powerful nation on this planet!!!!!
Blessing to you my brother Barack H. Obama and may you prevent us going to war with Russia....
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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I look at the matter of skin color this way and because of the White women saying that they will vote for MCcain because Hillary was not chosen for VP. John MCcain:
1. Voted against women being able to get birth control in the same manner that men got viagra.
2. voted against women getting retroactive equal pay for equal work as men.
3. voted against children who saw their mother's abuse getting truma emergancy care.
It is my belief that voting for MCcain over Obama(as there are only two going to be on the November ballot)has more to do with Obama's skin is the color of his father's and not that of his mother's...what about you out there in the Black community....And let us not forget these are die hard Hillary supporters refusing to follow her in voting for Obama...get my point...??????!!!!!!!??????
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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Me, I will do a write in vote of Ron Paul on my ballot in November. This is because I vote my conscious of who best represents me along with putting this counrty's needs first with my one vote.
Ron Paul was the only one in any of these campaigns to talk openly and honestly about 'this empire will fall, because it can no longer sustain its own self". I can not forget/deny that this man is what I want representing me, my family, friends and most of all America.
It is my duty to vote my own conscious and as I always have , I always will do. And, I have never voted for a Republican president as I have never been in agreement with one before Ron Paul! If Ron Paul was a Democrat or Green pary, I would be doing the same thing.
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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I reject any form of slave mentality or even going to heaven where I will have to go along to get along, be valued by anyone to help them be happy living their life trying to run a guilt trip on me!!!!
I chose to like who I like, respect/disrespect what is said about me because of my skin color that :talks down, demean, degrade my self-esteem or my racial-culture pride as un acceptable to my. I am Irma if you want to label me, not a you people, or any other name called me to help some one lift themselves by standing on my back/shoulder...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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Karen, for me it was the White female becoming the "minority" by way of Affirmative Action that got those White females in Congress and on the Supreme courts. Before and after Affirmative Action there has been only one Black male on the Supreme Court as the minority.
I believe that there was more /effective Black males 'power' in Congress during reconstruction that there is today. Plus I believe that only an Oprah or a major movie star or a Michael Jordan be able to acutally count in the Republican party or a Ward Connerly who dids not see the being used to say things that the Whites can not say an remain in the party. Now do you say who was the person that got Affirmative Action out of California?Me, I say thank him for this as now black students in college here can not be seen as failuars who are just being kept there to fullfill a quota in this state.
But, Ward Connely does not in a sense have a race or a political party to fully accept him in this state any more.And, for this I do feel sorry for him.
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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Let us all in the Black community stop and take time to ask our own selves these two questions.
1. How long has Obama been in the White house causing this economic and war and political distruction on America, and any place you can nome that does not want the American $?
2. Then ask yourselves who is the American government(is it those with the one vote) or is Obama going to be the American government dictator starting in January 09 replacing wannabe Dictator G.W. Bush?
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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Karen, the only way that we as a race of people can really see what the Republican party is like and how they use/abuse our people or not is to do research pro and con and the only way we will be able to accomplish this is to get at it, like yesterday!!!! The best way to do this is to move on beyond media talking heads playing on our emotional out bursts on cue and start working as we did i n the 60s. In the 60s we were taught to make it better for our grand children. Me then at the age of 16 I could not fully understnad what this meant, I do now. The work of our generation back then is just begining to help us for future therefore the more I watch your generation take action, I know that all will be well;if not today then for your grand children.Please take note that my generation are still at the "I never thought I would see a black man in Barack's position in this life time". While at the same time we have worked a life time to get to this point!!!
It is not the label of a political party, it is us coming to terms with "we the people are the government"....
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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