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Does Black Jews Exist as Black American's?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. · Thursday, June 19th 2014 at 10:38AM · 1498 views
In recent months the question of the existence whether Jewish Black American exist. Well, I am here to shade some light on this subject to say "YES," we do exist, live and in living color.

According to Wikipedia, The American Jewish community includes Jews with African-American background, many of mixed marriages. Black Jews belong to each of the major American Jewish denominations—Orthodox, Conservative, Reform—and to the smaller movements as well. Like their white Jewish counterparts, there are also Black Jewish secularists and Black Jews who may rarely or never take part in religious practices.[1]

Estimates of the number of Black Jews in the United States range from 20,000[2] to 200,000.[3]
There are several predominately black synagogues in The United States, such as Beth Shalom B'nai Zaken Ethiopian Hebrew Congregation, whose current rabbi is a cousin in law of President Barack Obama.


The American Jewish community includes Jews with African-American background, many of mixed marriages. Black Jews belong to each of the major American Jewish denominations—Orthodox, Conservative, Reform—and to the smaller movements as well. Like their white Jewish counterparts, there are also Black Jewish secularists and Black Jews who may rarely or never take part in religious practices.


The Black Jew are Black American's which are a part of our great Black heritage. When one us say that we "THE BLACK PEOPLE are not the creation of God is working of a premise to be that stumbling block that Christian's from a child in Christ to our maturity has the power to recognize the tricks and the deception of Satan. As Christians, as Black Hebrew Israelite in the Body in the Black American community we have the power and glory for ever to worship God. Worship no man and we must resist the devil and he will flee from you. This is living proof.


Deacon Ron Gray

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Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, June 19th 2014 at 11:30AM

My blogs will continue to stay open for all comments.

Deacon Ron Gray

Steve Williams Thursday, June 19th 2014 at 11:46AM

Deacon, I'm about to be inducted into the "blocked by Harry" club.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, June 19th 2014 at 12:14PM

Steve,

What!!! If he blocks you, who will he talk too? Then if he does that then, He has truly found destruction for his view points. That poor man can't handle the truth.

Steve Williams Thursday, June 19th 2014 at 1:15PM

Deacon,

I was looking through my old posts for something that Philo of Alexandria (born circa 20 BCE) had said about how Judaism had spread throughout the known world of his time. I couldn't find it and I don't have access to my library at the moment but I did find this, that you might be interested in.

Philo: Virgin Birth (144 hits)

http://blackinamerica.com/content/221307/p...

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Sylvainy R Thursday, June 19th 2014 at 2:36PM

Philo was born around 20 B.C

Harry Watley Thursday, June 19th 2014 at 3:05PM

Greetings,

If I may would like to ask a question. You said this in your blog, "The Black Jew are Black American's which are a part of our great Black heritage"
Here is my question. The people today in the State of Israel to your knowledge are they the descendents of the biblical Israelites/Hebrew/Jewish people? As I move forward I want to make sure you and I are on the same page as to who exactly are the Jewish people!
Please answer my question as precisely as I ask you. It is a definitive question and I am looking for a definitive answer. A definitive answer is either a yes or a no answer.

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Sylvainy R Thursday, June 19th 2014 at 3:34PM

Harry
Be a man and apologise to Deacon Ron Gray

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Sylvainy R Thursday, June 19th 2014 at 4:02PM

@ Deacon Ron Gray Harry (it) Can't help it it's a computer program notice it keeps repeating the same thing over and oven

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, June 19th 2014 at 4:14PM

Harry,

Are you talking to me? Because if you are and if your introduction was real, you would call me by name.

Then you would come to me right, with a apology and asking me for forgiveness for your rude actions on my family face book page.

Now HARRY, I am a man, this is the second time you have walked through my doors and acting like you have not sinned against me and ran away when I asked you man to man to correct your actions. Now here you come again.

You continue to block your blogs to me and now you want to comment on my blog. You have some things to do before we can engage in carrying along in any dialog here on BIA .

1. You must be that man and APOLOGIZE for your rude actions.

2. Unblock me, to your blogs.

Then you can talk to a freely thinking Black man until then HARRY nothing, notda, thing will happen between you and I.

I will keep my doors open to you always because people did not close their doors to me but you. I refuse to steep that low to BLOCK YOU even if we disagree on any subject on BLACK IN AMERICA.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, June 19th 2014 at 4:45PM



THE WORDS OF HARRY: I named my people who descendents of plantation slaves Black Americans. I did not add Jewish to the name Black America.

This is his way to commutate his resource to my blog.

First you start off with a LIE. HARRY BLACK HEBREWS in this country are here no matter what you said some 4 years. Black Jews been here way before the birth of HARRY. You got to be losing your mind.

Now you have BLOCK the only man on BIA that would talk to you. Steve, welcome to the BLOCKED CLUB.

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Sylvainy R Thursday, June 19th 2014 at 5:01PM

Good riddance little boy Harry Now Be a man and apologise to Deacon Ron Gray

Harry Watley Thursday, June 19th 2014 at 5:06PM

You all were blocked because I was not will to condone the wrongs, the tricks and stupid behavior.
I asked a fair question and I got back a ton of the same nonsense I first blocked you all for, nothing has changed.

When you said that your doors are open to anyone that wants to comment it was a lie and a trick just to trap me because my commenting on your blogs comes with hidden rules. Psychologically, you all want to control me. You are forcing me to apologize when I don’t think I need to just because I said something that is truth that hurt your feelings. Use the truth to control me like I am doing to you all. I don’t want any stupid fight and useless arguments with any of you.

I think I am at the point now that what ever blogs any of you post I will not comment. I will just blog. This way you all will be happy and I will be happy since we can not get along together in conversation we will get along alone.

I don’t look for you to answer my question. I leave you as I met you. Good will to you all.

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Sylvainy R Thursday, June 19th 2014 at 5:58PM

And Harry nothinge will change until you grow up Be a man and apologise to Deacon Ron Gray

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, June 19th 2014 at 6:00PM

HARRY,

You talk to me Harry, my name ani't you all. When since asking for respect became a tap? Everyone can plainly see that you was wrong as hell for your rude behavior on my Facebook. Would you stand for that foolishness?

I know you feel like you have been abandoned what this was of your own doing and the sad part about your excuses is you think it's okay... And your solution is to keep on running from your actions.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, June 19th 2014 at 10:57PM

HARRY,

You talk to me Harry, my name ani't, you all. When since asking for respect became a trap? Everyone can plainly see that you was wrong as hell for your rude behavior on my Facebook page. Would you stand for that foolishness?

I know you feel like you have been abandoned by your slave owners but what this was of your own doing and the sad part about your excuses is you think it's okay... And your solution is to keep on running from your own actions.

Your words: When you said that your doors are open to anyone that wants to comment it was a lie and a trick just to trap me because my commenting on your blogs comes with hidden rules.

HARRY, the fact that your post is here and we are here talking on a blog that I started, makes a LIW out of these. words of yours.

YOUR WORDS: Psychologically, you all want to control me. You are forcing me to apologize when I don’t think I need to just because I said something that is truth that hurt your feelings. .

Control... We have called each other some names in the past but I never took our conversations off this venue. I know that you thought it was cool at the time but like I said on Friday the 13th your actions was over the line and that's when I stood my ground.

so now, you want to play the victim game here, you sound like a paranoid schizophrenic surrounded by conspiracies to take you over. Please give it a break., If you just post and no one can comment or give you feed back, you might as well not post a damn thing, what's the purpose?

HARRY, you sound like you can't handle the truth. you know that feeling in your bones that you was feeling, that was the feeling of the truth baring down on those LIES you been telling.

My rules are not hidden and never has been, the choice is yours HARRY.

Deacon Ron Gray


I will continue to keep the doors of any of my blogs open to you HARRY

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, June 19th 2014 at 11:22PM

HARRY,

YOUR QUESTION: Here is my question. The people today in the State of Israel to your knowledge are they the descendents of the biblical Israelites/Hebrew/Jewish people?

Yes... The original people, The Black Hebrew Israelite is still there and the white gentile Jew call the children of Cush, cushies, that is the equivalent to the word *****.

Steve Williams Friday, June 20th 2014 at 12:29AM

Psalm 68

31 Envoys will come from Egypt;
Cush will submit herself to God.

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Sylvainy R Friday, June 20th 2014 at 10:46AM

@ Deacon Ron Gray
My Brother I'm not sure but are you using the bible as proof as to the existence of Black Hebrew Israelite???
please Clarify

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, June 20th 2014 at 11:03AM

Brother SoSo,

I am away from my home computer right now but to give you a short answer to your question. Yes, the stories in the Bible are the stories of The Black Hebrew people from the times of the be gaining on up to the times of Jesus Christ. These are the stories of the Black Hebrew Israelites and to this day still live in Israel.

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Sylvainy R Friday, June 20th 2014 at 2:27PM

@ Brother Deacon Ron Gray
It is not my intention to hurt anyone for his/her belief I’m not sure what your beliefs are However in my opinion a mistake a lot of us make is reading the Bible / scripture from the reader’s perspective a and not from the writer’s perspective
Now if we read the Bible / scripture from the writer’s perspective then a different picture / story will emerge, First of all there are 2 creation stories the 1st is from Genesis 1:1 thru Genesis 2:3 is the first creation story picks up from at Genesis 2:4 and runs to the end of the chapter at Genesis 2:25 Which one is correct? Which one is the word of God?
Then there is the Abraham story and according to the bible Abraham is the first of the Jews he was born in Chaldea in the city of Or
Then there is the 2 son’s story Jacob and Ishmael, Jacob fought with an angel and won then God change his name from Jacob is Israel, and Ishmael the father of the Arabs
Is ra el = ISIS, RA = god, EL= Son’s of god ------this is Egyptians
Brother Deacon Ron Gray B4 I go further does any of this make sense

Steve Williams Friday, June 20th 2014 at 2:55PM

It's interesting, Philo calls Moses Chaldean too.

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Sylvainy R Friday, June 20th 2014 at 3:22PM

@ Steve Williams
It’s also rather interesting that Philo a Jewish Historian from the time of Christ never wrote a word about Jesus Christ

Steve Williams Friday, June 20th 2014 at 4:25PM

Yes it is. He did however write about the Jewish persecution at that time and was part of the delegation to Caligula.

Steve Williams Friday, June 20th 2014 at 4:29PM

(On the Embassy to Gaius)

Steve Williams Friday, June 20th 2014 at 5:00PM

Here's what he has to say about Pilate though.

XXXVIII. (299) "Moreover, I have it in my power to relate one act of ambition on his part, though I suffered an infinite number of evils when he was alive; but nevertheless the truth is considered dear, and much to be honoured by you. Pilate was one of the emperor's lieutenants, having been appointed governor of Judaea. He, not more with the object of doing honour to Tiberius than with that of vexing the multitude, dedicated some gilt shields in the palace of Herod, in the holy city; which had no form nor any other forbidden thing represented on them except some necessary inscription, which mentioned these two facts, the name of the person who had placed them there, and the person in whose honour they were so placed there. (300) But when the multitude heard what had been done, and when the circumstance became notorious, then the people, putting forward the four sons of the king, who were in no respect inferior to the kings themselves, in fortune or in rank, and his other descendants, and those magistrates who were among them at the time, entreated him to alter and to rectify the innovation which he had committed in respect of the shields; and not to make any alteration in their national customs, which had hitherto been preserved without any interruption, without being in the least degree changed by any king of emperor. (301) "But when he steadfastly refused this petition (for he was a man of a very inflexible disposition, and very merciless as well as very obstinate), they cried out: 'Do not cause a sedition; do not make war upon us; do not destroy the peace which exists. The honour of the emperor is not identical with dishonour to the ancient laws; let it not be to you a pretence for heaping insult on our nation. Tiberius is not desirous that any of our laws or customs shall be destroyed. And if you yourself say that he is, show us either some command from him, or some letter, or something of the kind, that we, who have been sent to you as ambassadors, may cease to trouble you, and may address our supplications to your master.' (302) "But this last sentence exasperated him in the greatest possible degree, as he feared least they might in reality go on an embassy to the emperor, and might impeach him with respect to other particulars of his government, in respect of his corruption, and his acts of insolence, and his rapine, and his habit of insulting people, and his cruelty, and his continual murders of people untried and uncondemned, and his never ending, and gratuitous, and most grievous inhumanity. (303) Therefore, being exceedingly angry, and being at all times a man of most ferocious passions, he was in great perplexity, neither venturing to take down what he had once set up, nor wishing to do any thing which could be acceptable to his subjects, and at the same time being sufficiently acquainted with the firmness of Tiberius on these points. And those who were in power in our nation, seeing this, and perceiving that he was inclined to change his mind as to what he had done, but that he was not willing to be thought to do so, wrote a most supplicatory letter to Tiberius. (304) And he, when he had read it, what did he say of Pilate, and what threats did he utter against him! But it is beside our purpose at present to relate to you how very angry he was, although he was not very liable to sudden anger; since the facts speak for themselves; (305) for immediately, without putting any thing off till the next day, he wrote a letter, reproaching and reviling him in the most bitter manner for his act of unprecedented audacity and wickedness, and commanding him immediately to take down the shields and to convey them away from the metropolis of Judaea to Caesarea, on the sea which had been named Caesarea Augusta, after his grandfather, in order that they might be set up in the temple of Augustus. And accordingly, they were set up in that edifice. And in this way he provided for two matters: both for the honour due to the emperor, and for the preservation of the ancient customs of the city.

http://www.earlyjewishwritings.com/text/ph...

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, June 20th 2014 at 5:01PM

Brother SoSo,

I must admit I understand much more of the Bible now, then I did when I first started this journey. I believe that Genesis 2 complements Genesis 1 and they are both right. Genesis two goes more into God's creation of man And then woman and where God placed his creation.

Harry Watley Friday, June 20th 2014 at 10:51PM

Greetings,

Mr. Gray you are wrong to answer which Genesis is correct because you don't know since you are not a Jew. You don't know the circumstances and the mindset of the Jewish people when they wrote the two different Genesis.

Mr. Soso's question can only be answered by descendents of the Biblical Jews. It is their story and the understanding and spiritual aspirations are confined only in the hearts and minds of the Jewish people and no of the people.

So you Mr. Gray adequately answer the question. All that you are doing is making up a story which means you are lying. The end result is confusion! Every one who is not a Jew and is reading the Bible must see the Bible academically. In other words, see the Bible as a regular book, but to the people whose stories are in the Bible the Bible is special to them and not academic.

When we Black Americans write our book it will be special to us because it is our personal story but to everyone else it is academic. The Bible is not the spiritual guiding book for Black Americans. We need to stop arguing and discussing the spiritual books of other people as though it was our spiritual book.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, June 25th 2014 at 8:31PM

HARRY,

I almost let this one get away. Anyone who can read the Book of Genesis can render their impression of what was written. For you to tell me that I 'am wrong because I am not Jewish, what you really means is that I am not White and you still think at Jesus Christ the descendent of KING DAVID, the descendent of King Solomon who clearly said that he is black, that Jesus Christ is white. I personally have shown you this time after time but yet you still promote this LIE that the Jewish Jesus is White.

Now HARRY it is you who has been has been brainwashed and you are willfully spreading THE LIE as you go.





HARRY I have asked you where do our people meet to write this book? How many people follow you now? When do you hold your services?

HARRY YOU Don't have to LIE. anymore

Harry Watley Wednesday, June 25th 2014 at 10:23PM

Deacon,

I will say it to you again. Spiritual books are personal books. Spiritual books are just as personal as your family's photo album is to your family. A person like Steve who is not part of your family can only guess at what's going on looking through your family's photo album. Supposing a couple of your family members had a discussion about taking a particular picture at a certain spot for a special reason, the discussion before that picture was taken Steve is not privilege to that discussion, but your family members are Mr. Deacon. The spirit of those emotions Steve can’t feel.

Likewise, any one reading the Torah/Old Testament could never receive what the Jews felt and received when God spoke to them through their prophets! You would have to be a Jewish person to get the heart felt deep emotions that the Jewish people felt and passed on to their descendents.

For instance, what emotions like fear or gratification did the children of Israel feel the morning after the Passover when Pharaoh told them to leave Egypt! What sort of private discussions did they have among themselves? A person who is not a Jew would never know of these things if you are not a Jewish person.

By the same token, anyone reading the Quran who is not an Arabian could never feel the spirit like the Arabian felt because the divine feelings are meant only for the Arabian people. The stories in the Quran are personally the stories of the Arabian people.

When we begin to write our book our book will be personal to us as well! All the fussing and fighting and blocking and deleting that we are going through and the name-calling are personal emotions to us that other people reading our spiritual book of LIFE can’t feel.

I don't know how else I can explain to you that other people's religious books you can not get the divine spiritualism if you are not one of those people. When God visits a race God is not visiting all people. When God visited the Jewish people God was not visiting all people! When God visited the Arabian people God was not visiting all people. When God visited Black Americans God was not visiting all people. How you analytically know that God isn’t visiting all people is because when ever God visits a people the first thing that God does is to anoint the people a prophet from among the people. Prophet Harry indicates that God has visited only Black Americans and not all people since Prophet Harry can only represent Black Americans because Harry is a Black American and not all people.

Black Americans cannot be a spiritually free people in a country of our own following the Jewish/European gentiles or Arabian scriptures. We must have our own to say that we are spiritually free and independent as well as sovereign in our own country since I am claiming that God has visited us Black Americans.

Deacon several people has asked me about a meeting place. I don’t have on yet!

Deacon if I was brainwashed you would have been able to show that my first revelation is wrong. Is or is not prophets are racially different. You are the one brainwashed since you did not that prophets are racially different because you wouldn’t have believe that the Jewish Jesus is your Lord and Savior since Jesus is racially different from you. Even if Jesus was Black Jesus was not a Black American as we are.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, June 25th 2014 at 10:25PM

HARRY,

Have so many points to this reply of yours so, I will be brief.

You don't tell me how to relate to what I read in The Holy Bible HARRY that is not your job. I don't need to know about the Quran right now because The Holy Quran is not the topic here. For you to go through all of that is not the point and I consider that a deception from my main topic.

HARRY I have asked you where do our people meet to write this book? How many people follow you now? When do you hold your services? That pray that you was talking about, can I get a copy?

Now limit your commentary to what you have not answered.



Harry Watley Wednesday, June 25th 2014 at 11:25PM

Deacon,

You said that I can tell you how to relate to what you read in the holy Bible; that it is not my job! You are wrong! It is my job because I am your prophet. It was Moses job to be angry at the children of Israel for making the Golden Calf to worship in the desert since Moses was the prophet of the children of Israel. The Golden Calf is not something that Prophet Moses gave to his people. The Holy Bible is not something I gave to my Black American people and therefore it is my business to tell you how you should relate to the Holy Bible when you read it!

Black Americans are to have nothing religious or representing the religious beliefs another people. The belief in the Jewish Jesus is a White American thing and Black Americans are not to have White America's religious beliefs. Likewise, the children of Israel were not to have any religious beliefs of the Egyptian people since the Jewish people are not Egyptian people!

I am baffled why it is so difficult for you to understand what I am saying. The bottom line is that you cannot have White America's religious beliefs and the Jewish Jesus as your Lord and Savior since you are not a White man. I told you that you do not know what you are! You are stupid!

I’ve told you I don’t have a meeting place yet! Several people are currently asking me the same thing.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, June 25th 2014 at 11:35PM

HARRY,

You are no prophet for me. You LIE to much for me. you have been dismissed.

Steve Williams Thursday, June 26th 2014 at 12:12AM

Deacon, Harry had a prayer but I guess he's forgotten it.

Steve Williams Thursday, June 26th 2014 at 12:21AM

Oh God I declare of my own free will that my soul, spirit, heart and faith belong to you only. I acknowledge that no man could be God the Creator. Neither would God the Creator be a man nor is there anything liken unto God the Creator. I acknowledge that God created all that I see and all that I don't see. All that I know and what I don't know. No doubt is there nothing liken unto God, neither Jesus nor Mr. Ford Muhammad.

God deliver us, Black Americans. Bless us no less than you blessed the children of Israel in their days of bondage and slavery. Deliver Black Americans onto a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to worship God, pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way as you had delivered the children of Israel into their Promised Land.

Our predicament is of no fault of our own since we were born into this predicament it is incumbent upon God that you deliver us.

So be it.

Harry Watley Thursday, June 26th 2014 at 12:33AM

Mr. Gray,

You cannot dismiss me because you did not anoint me. No child of Israel could have dismissed Prophet Moses since they did not anoint Moses. No Arabian could have dismissed Prophet Mohammed because they did not anoint him. Do you get the picture now!

You can reject me and you will pay the costs, but you cannot dismiss me!

You constantly say that I lie and I keep asking you to point out the lie and you never do! When we begin to meet you will not be able to say these things about me in the presence of other Black Americans and not be able to prove it. Other Black Americans will not tolerate it!

Deacon Gray Steve has posted Black America's first genuine prayer that God and I put together five years ago. Pay attention to it because it is more significant and meaningful to us Black Americans as the Lord's Prayer is to the European gentiles and the disciples of Jesus.

Steve Williams Thursday, June 26th 2014 at 12:47AM

Which is it Harry?

a) "I acknowledge that God created all that I see and all that I don't see."

b) "Again, God did not create Black Americans."

Harry Watley Thursday, June 26th 2014 at 1:02AM

stupid!

the prayer is not for you!

Steve Williams Thursday, June 26th 2014 at 1:17AM

It's an academic question.

Harry Watley Thursday, June 26th 2014 at 1:24AM

I said Black America's prayer is not for you. You are not a Black American.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, June 26th 2014 at 11:34AM

HARRY,

What about me? Show me the prayer or how to pray, can you show me?

Harry Watley Thursday, June 26th 2014 at 3:58PM

Mr. Gray,

Here is Black America's first genuine prayer.

Oh God! I declare by my own free will that my soul, spirit, heart and faith belong to God only and not to White America who taught us their Christian religion. I acknowledge that no man could be God. Neither would God be a man. Neither Jesus nor Mr. Fard Muhammad is and was ever God in the flesh. I acknowledge that God created all that I see. All that I do not see. All that I know. All that I do not know and there is nothing comparable to God.

God deliver us, Black Americans out of White America’s subjugation. God bless us no less than the children of Israel where blessed in their days of bondage and slavery to Pharaoh in Egypt and they were delivered by Thee. God deliver us Black Americans onto the best portion of this continent upon which we came into existence that our slave ancestors left us that we could call our very own country with borders to worship Thee, pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way.

God we are a new race of people made from the seeds of White America and their African slaves. Our predicament is no fault of our own. Because we were born into servitude it is incumbent upon Thee to deliver us as the Children of Israel were delivered by Thee. Our predicament is divine. Merciful and Loving God we can not deliver ourselves. White America can not fix us either. Hear our cries and deliver us God that we could become a prosperous nation of people for the first time in our history.

I acknowledge my very own Prophet Harry anointed by Thee for us as the Jews acknowledged Moses and the Arabians acknowledged Mohammed.

Be merciful, loving and caring to us Black Americans Oh God!

Steve Williams Thursday, June 26th 2014 at 4:53PM

Another lie Harry, that's your second one.

powell robert Friday, June 27th 2014 at 7:48PM


'blackJews', 'blackAmericans', 'whiteJews', 'whiteAmericans', 'redJews', 'redAmericans', 'yellowJews'---Washingtion Redskins, Boston Whiteskins, Alabama BlackSkins ----- ALL racistlyIgnorant paganChristianity....

Steve Williams Friday, June 27th 2014 at 10:05PM

Not your second lie Harry, your second prayer. And I've determined you have only one lie: You don't believe a word you say.

Harry Watley Friday, June 27th 2014 at 11:07PM

Steve,

The prayer I posted for the deacon was the final draft. The prayer you posted was not the final draft. Nevertheless, the prayers are essentially saying the same thing. There are no lies!

In addition, you said my second lie. Now you are saying you meant my second prayer. Obviously, you do not know how to communicate accurately which leaves room for misunderstanding.

It baffles me why you would think that you are smarter than I am!

Steve Williams Saturday, June 28th 2014 at 12:19AM

You did have me fooled for 5 years Harry. Now I know: You don't believe a word you say.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, June 28th 2014 at 10:38AM

HARRY,

Do Black Jews live in American?

Harry Watley Saturday, June 28th 2014 at 11:19AM

Mr. Gray,

You are asking me are there Black Jews living in America. I don't know because I have never seen a Black Jew. What I am certain of is that there is no such thing as a Black American Jew!

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, June 28th 2014 at 1:27PM

HARRY,

How do you know for certain there is no such thing as a black American Jew?

Harry Watley Saturday, June 28th 2014 at 4:16PM

Mr. Deacon,

What makes me certain that there is no such thing as a Black American Jew is because all the slaves were Africans and the English slave masters were Anglo-Saxon out of England.

The systemic breeding process was strictly for the most part between the English slave masters and the Africans and that is what history supports. Jewish people started coming into this country through Ellis Island long as the President Abraham Lincoln outlawed plantation slavery.

So, it is not analytically and scientifically possible that there is such a people as Black American Jewish people. Mr. Gray you are a dummy big time.

The label Black Americans is the name I gave to my people. I did not attach the word Jew when I named my people Black Americans. Black Americans are specifically identified by plantation slavery. No other race of people emerge from plantation slavery but one new race of people I named Black Americans. Black Americans are not Africans or biblical Israelites.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, June 30th 2014 at 5:41AM

Poor HARRY,

Your Words: What makes me certain that there is no such thing as a Black American Jew is because all the slaves were Africans and the English slave masters were Anglo-Saxon out of England.

Before the African was sold into slavery our ancestors believed in one GOD and believed in The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob all was Jews and all was people of color and not white, not the European or The white Slave Owner of America.

My family was free Black American Jews in this country before, during and after the slave trade and the patriarch of my family has the duty to tell the story of our family history, religion, family Business and so on.

YOUR WORDS: So, it is not analytically and scientifically possible that there is such a people as Black American Jewish people. Mr. Gray you are a dummy big time.

This statement you made is without evidence, confirmation, poof or verification but with that said The American Jewish community includes Jews with African-American background, many of mixed marriages. Black Jews belong to each of the major American Jewish denominations—Orthodox, Conservative, Reform—and to the smaller movements as well. Like their white Jewish counterparts, there are also Black Jewish secularists and Black Jews who may rarely or never take part in religious practices.

Estimates of the number of Black Jews or Black American Jews in the United States range from 20,000 to 200,000 of our Brothers and Sisters, some living in some of the major cities in America. Many Black American Jews like my family have those Christian links. I am sure we are more in number, that follow you since you say that the Black American Jew does not exist.

Here's some Black American Jews names you may know who are Jews Drake, Sammy Davis Jr., Rashida Jones, Amar'e Stoudemire, Shyne, Lauren London, Lenny Kravitz, Tracee Ellis Ross, Lisa Bonet, Craig David.

The story of Black-Jewish relations in the United States is a long and complex one.... Jews were among those who worked to establish the NAACP in 1909. African-American newspapers were among the first in the U.S. to denounce Nazism.... FROM SWASTIKA TO JIM CROW creates hope and reminds us of a time in U.S. history when the two communities came together. Why do you think that was?

Since the time of slavery, Blacks have in some ways identified with the Jewish experience. They compared their situation in the American South to that of the Jews in Egypt, as expressed in Black spirituals such as "Go Down, Moses." The longing for their own exodus inspired the popularity of "Zion" in the names of many Black churches. Black nationalists used the Zionist movement as a model for their own Back-to-Africa movement. All this is proof that the Black American Jew is here, Alive and in Living Color.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, June 30th 2014 at 8:27AM

HARRY,

You lost soul, I see you will not touch this blog with your BS that you are certain that Black American Jews Exist because if you do, you would look like a damn fool again.

Steve Williams Monday, June 30th 2014 at 10:26AM

blackandjewish.com

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, June 30th 2014 at 1:57PM

Brother Steve,

That man will not look at that link because the truth is not his agenda, BS is. Just look at what that fool did on the memory of Sister Robinson post. That man don't give a shi* about her, or you! or anyone here on Black In America.

Harry Watley Monday, June 30th 2014 at 3:15PM

Mr. Gray,

You have started or wrong when you said before the African was sold into slavery our ancestors believed in one GOD and believed in The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob all was Jews and all was people of color and not white, not the European or The white Slave Owner of America.
If what you are saying is true then plantation slavery and the breeding process never happen. If plantation slavery never happened then who are the people President Abraham Lincoln freed through the famous Emancipation Proclamation? What you are saying is that the people that Abraham Lincoln freed never existed. You are a fu*king dummy!
Why do you lie to yourself and believe the lie you tell yourself?




Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, June 30th 2014 at 7:06PM


HARRY,

I know that you are a little SLOW but I see that you still have not replied to my facts That Black American Jews are here Alive and in living color. You can't touch that.

YES THESE ARE MY WORDS: before the African was sold into slavery our ancestors believed in one GOD and believed in The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob all was Jews and all was people of color and not white, not the European or The white Slave Owner of America.

I got a burning, blazing, scorching question for you. YOUR WORDS: If what you are saying is true then plantation slavery and the breeding process never happen.

My question to you is: how can I be wrong? What do plantation slavery and the breeding process got to do with our ancestors believing in one GOD and There belief in The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob 42 generations before Jesus Christ and 14 to 15 hundred years before slavery? What does that what you said has to do with anything you said ?

Harry Watley Monday, June 30th 2014 at 7:59PM

Mr. Gray,

I did not name Black Americans Black American Jews! I named Black Americans, Black Americans!

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, June 30th 2014 at 8:08PM

HARRY,

You poor little sad ass man. It is not up to your sorry as, setting in a dark room with the light of your computer hitting you in the face as you spew out that last sad reply. I don't give a damn about what you did or did not call Black Americans.

Deal with the facts and the evidence and live with the truth little man. Because Black America is greater than you think.

Harry Watley Monday, June 30th 2014 at 9:17PM

Mr. Gray,

Have you and your immediate family seriously considering putting the Jewish Jesus down?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, July 1st 2014 at 9:42AM

HARRY,

No... I believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God and my family and I are God's chosen Black Hebrew people and Jesus a family member, our descendants and that God is still talking to us today. We as the Black people must hear his voice and obey his commandments.

We believe that we are in the family of Gods people already as Black American Jews.

Steve Williams Tuesday, July 1st 2014 at 10:11AM

It just occurred to me last night, I know Harry has at least a daughter. Harry, does your daughter or any other immediate family follow you as their prophet?

Harry Watley Tuesday, July 1st 2014 at 12:11PM

Mr. Gray,

You have learned from me that since prophets are racially different would make the Jewish Jesus a prophet of the House of Israel and not the son of God what ever that means am I right.

Harry Watley Tuesday, July 1st 2014 at 12:13PM

Steve,

No one in my family are converts to me.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, July 1st 2014 at 6:30PM

HARRY

Have you learned anything from my writings, the information that I shown you, the fact and the evidence that is before you now? My family and I are already in the family of GOD and we live LIFE in America as Black American Jews regardless of what your lying ass say.

It is easier for a intelligent man to act stupid than a stupid man to act intelligent. HARRY that why you can't see a intelligent view point.

Harry Watley Tuesday, July 1st 2014 at 11:43PM

Mr. Gray,

What is more intelligent than for you to be informed that since prophets are racially different you cannot be what you think you are; a Black American Jew? What I am saying you can see it with your very own physical eyes. Therefore, it's not possible that I could be lying to your eye site.

If you are of the truth you will follow the truth and the truth that I have given you can see it with your very own physical eyeballs that prophets are racially different and you must racially lineup with your prophet by race only.
Mr. Gray,

What is more intelligent than for you to be informed that since prophets are racially different you cannot be what you think you are; a Black American Jew? What I am saying you can see it with your very own physical eyes. Therefore, it's not possible that I could be lying to your eye site.

If you are of the truth you will follow the truth and the truth that I have given you can see it with your very own physical eyeballs that prophets are racially different and you must racially lineup with your prophet by race only.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, July 2nd 2014 at 7:47AM

HARRY,

You are the dumbest fool I have ever have the opportune to talk to. Since prophets are racially different, has nothing to do with one believe or who a person is.

You can run that race beating BS to someone else, it's not working here.


The Black American Jew is here in this country and you with this BS can't do a damn thing about that.

powell robert Thursday, July 3rd 2014 at 8:41AM

deacon,

the racistlyIGNORANT divisive colorIdentification forced on America through slaverAmericana and genocideNative 1492-(1864-1964) has been a Major Miiconception of paganchristianity for 500 YEARS

The Monotheistic Genesis of the Creator of Adaam(as) as Defined in Africa Asia by the Judaic People

--DO NOT accept the Christian concept of 'blackWhiteRedYellow' DIFFERENT races of the FAMILY of ADAAM(as)

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, July 3rd 2014 at 4:11PM

Robert,

I too feel that religion should be colorless however, but we live in a country where the color of one skin is what people look at and not the content of one's character.

If this world was that way, then one could be freedom to accept religious free with the term oil that comes with racial, socially and economical divide.


powell robert Thursday, July 3rd 2014 at 7:31PM


my mother and father NEVER referred to me as a color and I am 70+ years old

my Belief of the Way of Life of the Creator of Adaam(as) DOES NOT refer to colorized racistThought

shatter whatever your Misconception is

---- this is an African American Family site to shatter the Stereotypes and Misconceptions of the past....

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, July 4th 2014 at 1:47PM

ROBERT,

You know I could say the same thing for my parents but what happen to me since my skin maybe a few shades darker than yours and where I grew up, I found out the difference in people' skin color at a early age.

My belife in God is not based in racism but listening to the word of God and obeying his commandments.

Because I am in God and God is in me.

S
Sylvainy R Friday, July 4th 2014 at 2:05PM

@ Bro Deacon Ron Gray
When you say your “belife in God is not based in racism but listening to the word of God and obeying his commandments”.
Now according to the bible when God is going to chose a set of people who never existed as his chosen isn’t that racism???

powell robert Friday, July 4th 2014 at 3:43PM


what are you listening TO/

you already have Written at BIA, that you recognize the kingJames European Version of AfricanAsian history

that kingJames European Version of their idea of 'religion' GAVE the WORLD the most Evil, Madness EVER unleashed on the Family of Adaam(as)

that kingJames European Version was R A C I S T----I G N O R A N C E

All menWomen on the Planet do not deserve that racistIGnorance

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, July 5th 2014 at 3:47PM

Brother SoSo
,
If I understand your question, I have a quick question.

YOUR WORDS: Now according to the bible when God is going to chose a set of people who never existed as his chosen isn’t that racism??? What people are you talking about never existed?



Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, November 28th 2014 at 1:01AM

HARRY,

This is way back when we was establishing who's who. Even back then, you ran from the truth and you could not express yourself well back then neither, why?

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