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Donald Trump: Offends Mexico and says goodbye to Latino Vote

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. · Saturday, July 4th 2015 at 7:00PM · 3947 views

  In this video JP Dominguez breaks down why Donald Trump's comments may be helpful to the GOP in the race for the presidency.

Donald Trump: Offends Mexico and says goodbye to Latino Vote

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Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, July 6th 2015 at 12:10AM

Is t his trump for real?

Jeni Fa Monday, July 6th 2015 at 8:21PM

Lol, he's just in the game for entertainment! Mexicans have been buying Donald Trump piñatas!





Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, July 7th 2015 at 3:29PM

many people think that the Thump is for real.

robert powell Wednesday, July 8th 2015 at 12:23PM


My first Spanish Teacher, Actually the First Teacher I Loved was from Panama...the first African city I visited was Ageciras.......My last Spanish Teacher in High School was a childhood classmate of my father-----I went to California to live closer to Mexico----I have MANY times been Mistaken as Mexican or Puerto Rican

BUT

Mexican gangs that are aligned with Mexican Police, Mexican Border Patrol, Mexican Judges, Mexican Elected Officials ---- ON A DAILY basis are sending to AMERICA the DESTROYERS of American Urban Cities; drugs, prostitution, low American Worker Wages, long ER hours and other manner of ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION product...

drugs, prostitution, low American Worker Wages, long ER hours and other manner of ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION product are a MAJOR reason for the DECAY of URBAN AMERICA ---the main population areas of AFRICAN AMERICANS

chiIraq would be Chicago if it were not for illegal immigration from mexico......

As I am a Responsible Concerned American Republican Voter ---- Successful American business magnate Mr.Donald John Trump, Sr. has my primary vote......

and Unless ----- hillaryClinton is replaced; by Governor Deval Laurdine Patrick or Representative Keith Maurice Ellison as the Democratic Candidate for USA president

---- President Donald John Trump seems to TRUMP the other 2016 Candidates for President

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, July 8th 2015 at 12:40PM

So you agree with the trump, then why should we go after those thugs who are permitting these drugs to cross over into the United States, like Ronald Reagan boys. Oliver North who used government plaines to bring that crap over here in the first place and he is still walking free.



Jeni Fa Thursday, July 9th 2015 at 8:00PM

@ Rob,

..."As I am a Responsible Concerned American Republican Voter ---- Successful American business magnate Mr.Donald John Trump, Sr. has my primary vote...... "...

Donald has a case of Alzheimer's Dementia. Why would you give someone like that your vote? He's had it for years and the first tale tell signs of it manifested with his toupee.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, July 9th 2015 at 11:08PM

Robert,

Please repost your reply, I accidentally deleted your post while using my cell phone.

Deacon Ron Gray

robert powell Monday, July 13th 2015 at 2:13PM


"......Why would you give someone like that your vote? He's had it for years and the first tale tell signs of it manifested with his toupee...."

Thursday, July 9th 2015 at 8:00PM
Jeni Fa

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"Robert, Please repost your reply...I.... deleted your post...."

Thursday, July 9th 2015 at 11:08PM
Deacon Ron Gray

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Again, Successful American business magnate Mr.Donald John Trump, Sr. has my primary vote......and General Election vote -----Unless

----- hillaryClinton is replaced; by Governor Deval Laurdine Patrick or Representative Keith Maurice Ellison as the Democratic Candidate for USA president

since 1990 ----- the UNITED STATES of AMERICA has been GIVEN by the MEXICAN GOVERNMENT polices----

------------------ drugs, prostitution, low American Worker Wages, long ER hours, urbanTerrorism, 100,000 MURDERS and the HIGHEST incarceration RATE in the WORLD

Successful American business magnate Mr.Donald John Trump, AS president would overcome that BORDER Problem AND then would Make America Economically STRONGER with FULLER employment for Americans

ps...

No toupee, I touched it once ----- just longer hair on sides and back for a balding older man


Steve Williams Monday, July 13th 2015 at 2:56PM

You touched it once? Did it feel good?

Jeni Fa Tuesday, July 21st 2015 at 11:21AM

I see. Rob, you aren't serious. Donald isn't running for President... he's doing a reality show.


robert powell Friday, July 24th 2015 at 11:41AM


Again, Successful American business magnate Mr.Donald John Trump, Sr. has my primary vote......and General Election vote

-----Unless

----- hillaryClinton is replaced; by Governor Deval Laurdine Patrick or Representative Keith Maurice Ellison as the Democratic Candidate for USA president

Jeni Fa Friday, July 24th 2015 at 12:07PM

@ Rob,

-----Unless ----- hillaryClinton is replaced; by Governor Deval Laurdine Patrick or Representative Keith Maurice Ellison as the Democratic Candidate for USA president...

Like that's going to happen. Puhleeze!



robert powell Saturday, July 25th 2015 at 1:53PM


Felony Indictments can stop ones run for president

...............and socialistBernie, baltimoreOmalley, flippyFloppy chaffeeWebb DO NOT get my concern.....



Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, July 25th 2015 at 3:13PM


Thank you for your repost. I thank that you made a good choice in your candidate in Thump.


robert powell Sunday, July 26th 2015 at 12:48PM


SUBJECT-------Donald Trump: Offends Mexico and says goodbye to Latino Vote

Successful American business magnate Mr.Donald John Trump, Sr.

".....your candidate in Thump...."

Saturday, July 25th 2015 at 3:13PM
Deacon Ron Gray
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maybe you are just misspelling Mr. Trump's name, OK

OR probably based on your previous BIA writings your RacistlyIgnorant 'blackHebrewIsralite" is STILL enabling the Stereotypically ----- ignorant, historical dumbNegro---southern'Black' Heritage slaveThinking



Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, July 26th 2015 at 3:54PM

Call that a typo and don't read anything else into it. "Good Choice in The Donald.

robert powell Monday, July 27th 2015 at 9:09AM


SUBJECT-------Donald Trump: Offends Mexico and says goodbye to Latino Vote

Successful American business magnate Mr.Donald John Trump, Sr.

Thank You

yourHillary

NEW BIA poll----- will Hillary be in whiteHouse or jail in 2016?


Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, July 27th 2015 at 10:02AM

Who said anything about Hilary Robert? I want The Donald to win the republican nominee for president, we both agree on something for a change. I am sure that you don't want another BUSH in there, do you?

Cynthia Merrill Artis Monday, July 27th 2015 at 11:07AM

Donald Trump is a quack! He needs to win the nomination... For sure Hillary Clinton will be in the White House!!

robert powell Monday, July 27th 2015 at 1:26PM


I want the FIRST Disrespector of President Baraka Hussein Obama, Unlawful,Lying hillaryClinton in jail

.......and Governor Deval Laurdine Patrick or Representative Keith Maurice Ellison as the Democratic Candidate for USA president in the White House




Cynthia Merrill Artis Monday, July 27th 2015 at 1:32PM

Robert Powell that was during the debate/campaign. It's all political.. once she got over her ego she was behind our best president ever..President Baraka Hussein Obama!!

robert powell Monday, July 27th 2015 at 1:39PM


she was and IS never with President Baraka Hussein Obama

----- "personal SERVER" ---- bengazi -- middleEast madness, clintonFoundation--Her DISRUPTIVE, Criminal Behavior

Let that Arkansas Liar --- Lie to the Justice Department of the Honorable Attorney General Loretta Lynch

Cynthia Merrill Artis Monday, July 27th 2015 at 1:46PM

True she messed up with the middle east situation.. I think that was the force behind her resignation... But I think she has the knowledge and experience to handle the job. Governor Patrick is a good pick... But I don't feel that he would get the support.. we still live in a nation of european privilege... After all Trump is showing his bigotry!

Steve Williams Monday, July 27th 2015 at 8:08PM

Thump or whoever, the Republicans will take this one.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, July 27th 2015 at 8:47PM

Will take this one. Brother Steve, Can you be more specific?

Cynthia Merrill Artis Tuesday, July 28th 2015 at 1:17AM

Democrats have been in control of the presidency for two terms ... Last election republicans took control of legislation. Based on historical findings.. more than likely a republican will be the next president. If a democrat wins.. it would be great! I'm registered and I am ready!! Yes I am a Democrat..

Steve Williams Tuesday, July 28th 2015 at 8:40AM

Brother Deacon, I mean Republicans will take the Presidency in 2016. Part of the reason is because of the gun control issue.

Steve Williams Tuesday, July 28th 2015 at 8:46AM

Donald Trump:

“I am a Life Member of the NRA and am proud of their service in protecting our right to keep and bear arms. The NRA’s efforts to stop dangerous, gun-banning legislation and regulation is invaluable. The media focus on those efforts overshadows the great work the NRA does on behalf of safety and conservation.

I have a permit to carry and, living in New York, I know firsthand the challenges law-abiding citizens have in exercising their Second Amendment rights. My most trusted sources are my sons, Don, Jr. and Eric. They are fantastic sportsmen and are deeply involved in hunting, competitive shooting, and habitat conservation.”



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Cynthia Merrill Artis Tuesday, July 28th 2015 at 9:16AM

Steve.. you reside in New York? I just left my native home; I was there for the 4th July!!

Steve Williams Tuesday, July 28th 2015 at 9:59AM

Cynthia, I'm back in Pennsylvania at the moment. How did you like New York?

Steve Williams Tuesday, July 28th 2015 at 10:00AM

Or do you mean you're there now?

Cynthia Merrill Artis Tuesday, July 28th 2015 at 10:16AM

No, I went to visit my family there. I love New York! I took my oldest son when he was 8 years old and my youngest sonwanted to go. I decided to make it a big family vacation. Plus I wanted them to meet my younger siblings. My oldest brother and his wife were in New Jersey and Philly.

Cynthia Merrill Artis Tuesday, July 28th 2015 at 10:20AM

Wait my baby brother and his wife... I lost my older brother ...
I'm the oldest now.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, July 28th 2015 at 12:46PM

Brother Steve,

Are you a Republican?

Steve Williams Tuesday, July 28th 2015 at 1:04PM

Brother Deacon,

I'm registered Libertarian, but 2012 I voted for Jill Stein, Green Party, even though I also like Gary Johnson. If I were to vote Democrat or Republican it would be either Sanders or Trump. I won't change my party affiliation to vote in the primaries though.

Steve Williams Tuesday, July 28th 2015 at 1:06PM

Clinton is a definite NO.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, July 28th 2015 at 1:49PM

This is the party of David H. Koch the other part of the Koch Brothers who are fighting hard to relax the clean air and water act which puts regulations on their operations. OK!

Steve Williams Tuesday, July 28th 2015 at 2:40PM

It's unlikely it will be an issue. Trump won't get the nomination nor Rand Paul nor Bernie Sanders. None of them are Establishment. So for me it will be Libertarian or Green Party again.

Steve Williams Tuesday, July 28th 2015 at 2:42PM

Trump will likely run third party which is fine by me.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, July 28th 2015 at 2:50PM

It is amazing that the GOP is throwing The Donald under the BUS.

Brother Steve, are you in the ranks of the middle class?



Steve Williams Tuesday, July 28th 2015 at 3:24PM

Brother Deacon,

I'm in the ranks of Social Security recipients. I don't think we qualify as middle class.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, July 28th 2015 at 9:46PM

Brother Steve,

OK! Lower Middle Class or Upper Lower Class. I offend wondered about the thinking of modern day Libertarians and the very fact that you are on Social Security seem like a conflict of interest. Are you a follower of Ayn Rands philosophy as well?

Steve Williams Wednesday, July 29th 2015 at 12:52AM

The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged are great novels, and we all know what happened to the Soviet Union. Brother Deacon, it would be a conflict of interest only if I was thinking only of myself. Every child born in this country is born into over $56,000 of debt.

http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, July 29th 2015 at 6:22AM

Nice side step Brother Steve. "Are you a follower of Ayn Rands philosophy as well?"


Steve Williams Wednesday, July 29th 2015 at 7:24AM

Brother Deacon, one of the reasons I voted for Jill Stein was because she advocated for free college education for all. I don't think that's someting Ayn Rand would have advocated. Ayn Rand certainly had a point and I get that point. I guess you could call me a follower for getting her point. I'm a Libertarian because I don't think drugs should be illegal and I think taxes are excessive, and that the Federal Reserve should be abolished, as well as our imperial practices around the world.

Steve Williams Wednesday, July 29th 2015 at 7:28AM

What about the debt Brother Deacon? $56,500 for every man, woman, and child is this country.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, July 29th 2015 at 9:10AM

Brother Steve,

What is this! In my very direct question I asked of you was not who you voted for, that was not my question to you.

Now you are going to tell me that you guess you are a follower. Come on Brother Steve, now you are trying to blow smoke up my behind. It sounds like and I could be an error, that so support Ayn Rand, is that correct?

Steve Williams Wednesday, July 29th 2015 at 9:47AM

I agree with Ayn Rand on these points, that society depends on producers, that bureaucracy produces nothing, but bureaucracy does restrict producers. I don't like the word follower Brother Deacon. I pick and choose and when it comes to voting I am never in total agreement with whom I vote for. I don't worry because government is as system of checks and balances. I could equally vote for Stein, Johnson, Sanders or Trump. It's more important whom I will not vote for. I didn't vote for Obama either time but I did vote for Bill Clinton his second term. That might have been a mistake but so was when I voted for Bush Sr. in '88. I'm happy to say I never voted for Bush Jr. either. The two-party system is the single biggest danger to the future of this country. Ayn Rand was an idealist and none of us has the luxury of idealism.

robert powell Wednesday, July 29th 2015 at 10:59AM


SUBJECT-------Donald Trump: Offends Mexico and says goodbye to Latino Vote

Successful American business magnate Mr.Donald John Trump, Sr.

yet the selfProfessed one, 'whiteMan' steveAdam OFF SUBJECTS.......

".....What about the debt Brother Deacon? $56,500 for every man, woman, and child is this country. ..."
Wednesday, July 29th 2015 at 7:28AM
Steve Williams

************************the europeanJesus in the greek pages attacked the money lenders First.......

debt is one of the commandments that the europeanRacists broke starting with slaverAmericana 1492-1864(1964); and WHO BETTER to lead the USA than a REAL ESTATE Mongul.......Mr.Donald John Trump, Sr.

promising something latter for debtNOW has ALWAYS a racistlyIgnorant strategy and misconception......

Reagan/Bush/Clinton/Bush debt was a result of a racistlyIgnorant war or crusade against AfricaAsia

A VOTE for Mr.Donald John Trump, Sr. is a VOTE for building RealEstate and maintaining a greater value for ones' land

---- NO RealEstate mogul wants to destroy or bomb RealEstate......

He logically will get USA out of NONSENSE wars in the Desert to build and MAKE America Strong Again........

Steve Williams Wednesday, July 29th 2015 at 11:53AM

And for that, offending Mexico is a small price to pay.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, July 29th 2015 at 11:43PM

The libertarian party was founded on many of Ayn Rand Philosophy. As a young man I remember the Phil Donahue show with interviews with Ayn Rand where she believes the producers or the Corporation millionaires should run the government and not the people. The very same social Security benefits that you are enjoying today should have been eliminated and those programs should have been run by private entities according to Ayn Rand. Lies have been told about Social Security be insolvent But in a report just released, that the solvency of Social Security will Will pay out subsidies for the next 30 years.

This is the lie told by the Libertarian party candidate for president during the last presidential election. What since do it make to be in a party that votes against the very programs, about your best interest that you now enjoy today and you are not in the ruling classes?

What sense does that make? I will do more research on the Libertarian party and I will get back with you Brother Steve.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, July 29th 2015 at 11:57PM

Noam Chomsky vs Ayn Rand on Social Security https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfKSSnYxAn...

They want it, they want it all. They belong to a club and we are not in it.

Ayn Rand on Donahue 1979 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u8Jjth81_...

Steve Williams Thursday, July 30th 2015 at 10:18AM

The Phil Donahue video was interesting. Brother Deacon, have you read Atlas Shrugged?

Steve Williams Thursday, July 30th 2015 at 10:33AM

Brother Deacon,

I am not "enjoying the benefits of Social Security". I put the money in and now I'm taking it back. My mom had an IRA and the balance at her death is now paid out to her heirs. If I die before receiving back what I put into SS, who does that money go to?

Steve Williams Thursday, July 30th 2015 at 10:49AM

WHAT IS ARI’S VIEW OF THE LIBERTARIAN MOVEMENT?
1. Has ARI changed its position on libertarianism?
No. But the meaning of the term “libertarian” has been changing over the decades. Consequently, individuals or organizations that today call themselves “libertarian” may or may not hold the ideas we oppose.

The libertarianism we oppose is a specific set of ideas, the essence of which is a dedicated, thoroughgoing subjectivism. Libertarianism in this sense was spearheaded by Murray Rothbard and his followers in the 1960s and 1970s. Its political expression is anarchism, or “anarcho-capitalism” as they often term it, and a foreign policy of rabid anti-Americanism (which they pass off as “non-interventionism”).

The “libertarians,” in this usage of the term, plagiarize Ayn Rand’s non-initiation of force principle and convert it into an axiom, denying the need for and relevance of philosophical fundamentals — not only the underlying ethics, but also the underlying metaphysics and epistemology.

This is the anti-objective, anti-philosophic position that, in 1985, ARI’s then-chairman of the board, Peter Schwartz, properly denounced in his essay “Libertarianism: The Perversion of Liberty.” That comprehensive critique of libertarianism exposes the movement’s essence: nihilism. (A condensed version of this article is published in The Voice of Reason: Essays in Objectivist Thought under the same title.) We agreed with and continue to agree with the essence of Peter Schwartz’s analysis.

As Mr. Schwartz demonstrated at length, this libertarianism declares that the value of liberty and the evil of initiating force are self-evident primaries, needing no justification or even explanation — leaving undefined such key concepts as “liberty,” “force,” “justice,” “good,” and “evil.” It claims compatibility with all views in metaphysics, epistemology, and ethics — even subjectivism, mysticism, skepticism, altruism, and nihilism — substituting “hate the state” for intellectual content.

This is why Ayn Rand opposed it from the start.

In print in 1972 Rand issued this warning to individuals interested in defending capitalism:

Above all, do not join the wrong ideological groups or movements, in order to “do something.” By “ideological” (in this context), I mean groups or movements proclaiming some vaguely generalized, undefined (and, usually, contradictory) political goals. (E.g., the Conservative Party, that subordinates reason to faith, and substitutes theocracy for capitalism; or the “libertarian” hippies, who subordinate reason to whims, and substitute anarchism for capitalism.) To join such groups means to reverse the philosophical hierarchy and to sell out fundamental principles for the sake of some superficial political action which is bound to fail. [“What Can One Do?” The Ayn Rand Letter, Vol. 1, No. 7]
(For more of Rand’s comments on the libertarian movement, see here.)

ARI has always viewed the movement holding this set of ideas and attitudes as an enemy of capitalism and freedom, and we continue to do so. We will never sanction, cooperate with, or collaborate with any organization that advocates “libertarianism” in this sense. This policy is required both as a matter of integrity and in intellectual self-defense. The principle involved was identified by Ayn Rand: “In any collaboration between two men (or two groups) who hold different basic principles, it is the more evil or irrational one who wins.” [“The Anatomy of Compromise,” Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal]

When this subjectivist approach to philosophy and politics dominated the libertarian movement in the ’70s and ’80s, ARI refused to cooperate with anyone belonging to it. Such cooperation would have constituted a sanction of the anti-ideology of libertarianism. However, today we see evidence to suggest that there is no longer a cohesive libertarian movement. The movement has become fragmented and leaderless (intellectually as well as organizationally), and the term “libertarian” is progressively losing its former meaning.

Thus when someone or some organization today calls itself, or is called by others, “libertarian,” one should not assume that this means the person or organization is part of the anti-philosophical libertarian movement. What matters, in evaluating these individuals and organizations, are the ideas they actually hold and advocate.

The term “libertarian” has been used increasingly over the last few years to mean a vague leaning toward liberty rather than government control. Many people, including reporters and commentators, sense that neither “liberals” nor “conservatives” are advocates of freedom. Commentators need a different term to describe those who seem to be more on the side of liberty and will often use the term “libertarian.”

However, none of the three political terms — “liberal,” “conservative,” or “libertarian” — has a clearly defined meaning, because there exist no clearly defined ideologies. Consequently, the fact that today someone calls himself or is called by others a “libertarian” says virtually nothing about his political viewpoint: he could be a religionist, an anarchist, a laissez-faire capitalist, a middle-of-the-roader, etc. In the current terminological confusion, we look to the content of the ideas advocated, not just to the label attached to them.


https://ari.aynrand.org/faq

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, July 30th 2015 at 2:23PM

Brother Steve,

Let us not play the game of words here. You are taking part in a federally founded social safety net, that if the libertarians and Republicans have their way, they will gut to privatize those programs. The question you asked about where the monies go if you was not beniting from it? That money would go back into Social Security. Now social Security, medicare, medicaid, the affordable healthcare act, affordable housing, public school, aid to dependent children are just a few of the federal social safety net programs that will be wiped out under a Republican or libertarian administration in this country. This plan would roll back the American Dream some 50 - 60 years, back beyond the days of the civil right bill, the passing of the laws to a 40 hour, 5 day, 8 hour a day work week and you want to give that up, so some crazy can carry a weapon into a school, church or bar, now to me that is ludicrous.

Libertarians know that they cannot win office by themselves, so with in the last decade they have been trying to hijack the Republican Party which is a lesson means to greater evil. Once corporation get their hands on these programs, they will have more federal dollars to play with which they will not owe an allegiance to the American people.

Steve Williams Thursday, July 30th 2015 at 4:23PM

Brother Deacon,

Are you a party ticket voter? I'm not. Though registered Libertarian I voted for the Green Party presidential candidate in 2012. Next year I could vote Democrat, Republican, Green Party or Libertarian. 2016 is still a long way off.

robert powell Thursday, July 30th 2015 at 5:10PM


SUBJECT-------Donald Trump: Offends Mexico and says goodbye to Latino Vote

Successful American business magnate Mr.Donald John Trump, Sr.

yet the selfProfessed one, 'whiteMan' steveAdam OFF SUBJECTS.......
.

".......And for that, offending Mexico is a small price to pay....."
Wednesday, July 29th 2015 at 11:53AM
Steve Williams

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Again, he offended NO MEXICAN ----

MEXICAN Governmental Policy has been for the past 40 Years to send those mexicanCitizens that their government were too lazy or ignorant to raise their standard of living to America.......

In America these forced Immigrants have LOWERED the wages of middleClass working Americans.................

In America these forced Immigrants have Sanctioned UnLawful behavior that affects Americans...................

In America these forced Immigrants have Enabled evil Gangs and Drug Cartels have hurt Americans...............

Mexican border towns have welcomed young and old Americans with the WORST vice, prostitution and Evil

Mexican Government Officials are and have been the MOST Corrupt and Shameless Monsters in American History...

Go TRUMP Go! ----- Make Americans Great Again away from the Mexican Decadent Government.........................

ps. steveAdam take your bleeding Evil racistHeart down to Mexico and console your phantomMexican friends......

Steve Williams Thursday, July 30th 2015 at 5:43PM

Bob, throw your broken etch-a-sketch in the dumpster.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, July 30th 2015 at 10:46PM

Brother Steve,

I voted for President Obama twice who brought this country of a unemployment rate of 10% which the BUSH admin, left office with, back down to a level of 5.3% or lower today. I voted my interest to keep the safety net alive for are seniors, disabled, veterans and to bring are men and women home, which the Republicans and the Libertarians oppose him from his beginnings.

Steve Williams Thursday, July 30th 2015 at 11:19PM

Brother Deacon,

I six years under President Obama, the debt has gone from $10.6 trillion to $18 trillion.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, July 31st 2015 at 8:33AM

Brother Steve,

Have you forgot that the U.S. was engaged in two wars that had to be paid for? The so-called off the book wars.

Runaway inflation.


1. Passed Health Care Reform: After five presidents over a century failed to create universal health insurance, signed the Affordable Care Act (2010).

2. Passed the Stimulus: Signed $787 billion American Recovery and Reinvestment Act in 2009 to spur economic growth amid greatest recession since the Great Depression.

3. Passed Wall Street Reform: Signed the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act (2010) to re-regulate the financial sector after its practices caused the Great Recession.

4. Ended the War in Iraq: Ordered all U.S. military forces out of the country. Last troops left on December 18, 2011.

5. Eliminated Osama bin laden: In 2011, ordered special forces raid of secret compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, in which the terrorist leader was killed and a trove of al-Qaeda documents was discovered. Which gorgy could not do.

6. Began Drawdown of War in Afghanistan: From a peak of 101,000 troops in June 2011, U.S. forces are now down to 91,000, with 23,000 slated to leave by the end of summer 2012

7. Turned Around U.S. Auto Industry: In 2009, injected $62 billion in federal money (on top of $13.4 billion in loans from the Bush administration) into ailing GM and Chrysler in return for equity stakes and agreements for massive restructuring. Since bottoming out in 2009, the auto industry has added more than 100,000 jobs. You remember the call, “LET THEM FAIL!”

8. Recapitalized Banks: In the midst of financial crisis, approved controversial Treasury Department plan to lure private capital into the country’s largest banks via “stress tests” of their balance sheets and a public-private fund to buy their “toxic” assets. Got banks back on their feet at essentially zero cost to the government.

9. Repealed “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”: Ended 1990s-era restriction and formalized new policy allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly in the military for the first time.

10. Reversed Bush Torture Policies: Two days after taking office, nullified Bush-era rulings that had allowed detainees in U.S. custody to undergo certain “enhanced” interrogation techniques considered inhumane under the Geneva Conventions. Also released the secret Bush legal rulings supporting the use of these techniques.

These are just a few of the things that the Obama Ammonization cleaned up after the libertarians in the Republican Party left Obama and the American people to do. I am sure I can find forty more achievements improvement to the country as well.

Brother Steve, I can’t believe how short your memory is.


Steve Williams Friday, July 31st 2015 at 9:15AM

Brother Deacon,

If you had $33,000 on your credit card and a stack of invoices for new purchases of $23,000 and you took out that credit card and paid those invoices, giving yourself $56,000 of debt, would you consider you'd successfully dealt with your problems?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, July 31st 2015 at 9:30AM

I would consider it to be a problem especially when someone is constantly block your way to paid that bill, like in the case of the hi-jacked republican party which talks about letting Wall Street and The Banks run free, without set guidelines to prevent the same thing from happening again.

Brother Steve, "Why would you vote against your own best interest?"



robert powell Friday, July 31st 2015 at 9:40AM


selfProclaimed 'whiteMan' steveAdam and 'blackHebrewIsraeliteDeacon' ---- argue?

"Why would you vote against your own best interest?"

Friday, July 31st 2015 at 9:30AM
Deacon Ron Gray

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PLEEEZE --- that what BOTH of your writings Prove---youAll are ENABLERS of the racistlyIgnorant Party...

Steve Williams Friday, July 31st 2015 at 11:33AM

Brother Deacon,

My own best interests are my five children and five grandchildren. I would never vote against my own best interests.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, July 31st 2015 at 11:57AM

Brother Steve,

I would agree that our grandchildren are our greatest interest. The Koch Brothers want to put there hands on social security which our grandchildren could enjoy if you vote against the hi-jacked republican party by the Libertarians. They claim that they will not touch people that is already on social security but they will effect your children and grandchildren.

That is what I call voting against your best interest, do you want that to happen?

Steve Williams Friday, July 31st 2015 at 12:47PM

Brother Deacon,

The Koch brothers and Social Security are not the issue. Debt is the issue. Including my step-grand daughter, in my family alone, in the first and second generations after me, the share of the national debt for these 11 young people is $621,500. That I call extreme prejudice to their best interests.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, July 31st 2015 at 2:18PM

Since the Obama administration the national debt projection has been cut dramatically and the Republican Party has been fighting him tooth and nail to let big business run unchecked.

Jeni Fa Friday, July 31st 2015 at 3:10PM

@ Cynthia,

..."Wait my baby brother and his wife... I lost my older brother ...
I'm the oldest now."...


I'm so sorry for your loss. What happened to them?!



Steve Williams Friday, July 31st 2015 at 3:11PM

Brother Deacon,

Let's look at where the candidates stand on the national debt. Normally debt is expected to be paid. In the past if you couldn't pay your debt you rotted in prison. Nowadays you go bankrupt and leave your creditor holding the bag. Debt projections are just another red herring. Our debt at this moment is HUGE! How are we going to pay it down???!!!

Steve Williams Friday, July 31st 2015 at 3:18PM

Where do potential Republican presidential candidates stand on the National Debt?

With our national debt now passing the $18 trillion mark, and rising at the rate of $40 to $50 billion per month, it is worth taking a look at where the putative Republican presidential candidates stand on the question. Do they see it as a major issue? Would they deal with it by cutting spending or raising taxes? Are they willing to take the political heat in order to reform the entitlements (Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security) that are the real drivers of the debt? Or are they content to offer platitudes about cutting “fraud, waste, and abuse”?

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/3983...

Steve Williams Friday, July 31st 2015 at 3:28PM

Ted Cruz: Senator Cruz has been an unwavering fiscal hawk, arguing that we must “cut federal spending as much and as quickly as possible.” He has backed a balanced-budget amendment to the Constitution, saying, “We need to pass a strong balanced-budget amendment. We need to stop bankrupting our country. Right now our kids and grandkids are inheriting a country where our national debt is larger than the size of our entire economy. . . . If we keep on this road, they will spend their entire lives, not to meet the needs of the future, not to meet the needs of their priorities, but instead, just working to pay off the debts that their deadbeat parents and grandparents stuck them with.” Cruz supports personal accounts for Social Security and raising the eligibility age; for Medicare, he would also increase the eligibility age, and offer premium support.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/3983...

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, July 31st 2015 at 3:33PM

Yes, my Brother looks like they want to pay for WARS and take from the poor and the middle class and not from the rich transnational corporations that are home based here in the u.s. Or the top three% that holes over 45% of all the wealth in this country.

Thus, they are playing the game of Robin Hood in reverse, take from the poor and give it to the rich.

Steve Williams Friday, July 31st 2015 at 3:41PM

For anyone hoping that the next president will get serious about reducing the size and cost of government, the early days of the campaign have been disappointing, to say the least. The Democrats, of course, have been campaigning as if Greece were a model rather than a warning. But what else can one expect from a party that has moved to the left of Barack Obama? The real disappointment has come from Republicans who seem intent on returning to the big-spending ways of the George W. Bush administration.

Start with the candidate of the moment, Donald Trump. Trump has made it clear that government spending in his administration would be, as The Donald would say, “yuuuge!” Trump’s answer to just about any problem facing the country is for the federal government to spend more money, which would be just fine because he would be the one spending it, and he knows how to do it right. For example, in the wake of the McCain “war hero” dustup, Trump penned an op-ed for USA Today promising to fix the problems with the VA hospitals. His solution: “I will build the finest and most modern veterans’ hospitals in the world.” Where would the money come from to build more hospitals? Trump doesn’t say. Trump opposes any cuts to Social Security and Medicare — and Medicaid, for that matter. In April, at the New Hampshire Republican Leadership Summit, Trump criticized his fellow Republicans for proposing reforms of the entitlement programs that are bankrupting the country: “Every Republican wants to do a big number on Social Security, they want to do it on Medicare, they want to do it on Medicaid. And we can’t do that.” Medicare and Social Security alone face more than $69.1 trillion in unfunded liabilities, but Trump insists that the programs can be saved without cuts. “All these other people want to cut the hell out of it,” Trump said of Social Security. “I’m not going to cut it at all. I’m going to bring money in, and we’re going to save it.”

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/3983...

Steve Williams Friday, July 31st 2015 at 3:46PM

Brother Deacon, defense spending is a major contributor. How much has been spent on defense under President Obama?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, August 4th 2015 at 3:02PM

Much, much less than his predecessor did by taking these two wars off the books without any concern how this bill was going to be paid.

robert powell Tuesday, August 4th 2015 at 5:11PM


SUBJECT

Donald Trump: Offends Mexico and says goodbye to Latino Vote

8/4/2015 -******** Mr. Donald Trump LEADS all Candidates in the American Citizen Latino Community........

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, August 8th 2015 at 10:27AM

Now I see that The Donald has been dumped from the last republicans games. What a difference a few day makes.

WOW...

Steve Williams Saturday, August 8th 2015 at 12:40PM

I'll vote for him as an Independent but not as a Republican.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, August 8th 2015 at 6:33PM

That would be a good vote Brother Steve.

Steve Williams Saturday, August 8th 2015 at 7:35PM

Brother Deacon, do you think any Democrats would vote for him as an Independent?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, August 8th 2015 at 8:37PM

There might be a few.

robert powell Saturday, August 8th 2015 at 8:55PM


8/8/2015 Mr. Donald Trump LEADS all Republican Candidates for President in 2016

A Majority of American Mexican Citizens that Understand the Mexican Government better than any American will VOTE for Mr. Donald Trump

A Majority of African American Citizens that Understand that a VOTE for Mr. Donald Trump is a greater Possibility of getting a Job with Great Wages than the Lying, Hillary Clinton........ the First Disrespecter of President Baraka Hussein Obama;(not knowledgeable experienced or ready for the 3amCall)---

A Majority of Females will VOTE for Mr. Donald Trump as EVERY female Loves him.........

Go Donald GO...............Make America Strong Again.................

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, August 8th 2015 at 9:08PM

Brother Steve, what do you think of that? That is one vote for the Donald, for sure. I am looking forward for the trump to be the republican nominee.

Steve Williams Sunday, August 9th 2015 at 9:07AM

Donald Trump may be your man Brother Deacon.

Trump Once Proposed the Biggest Tax Hike Ever

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trum...

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, August 9th 2015 at 9:55AM

Brother Steve,

Thank you for this link. Take a look at the first paragraph: Donald Trump takes a lot of flak for failing to offer specific policy proposals, but there was a time when he offered a very specific tax plan -- one that raised taxes on the wealthy so much it might have made Bernie Sanders blush.

I would like to highlight his sentence: "one that raised taxes on the wealthy so much it might have made Bernie Sanders blush."

I have asked you many times, what do you have in common with the wealthy?




Steve Williams Sunday, August 9th 2015 at 10:39AM

Brother Deacon,

What I have in common with the wealthy is we're all American citizens. What do you think of a flat rate tax like Rand Paul has proposed, that taxes everyone equally?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, August 9th 2015 at 3:49PM

Brother Steve,

Why should everyone be tax at the same rate when we all don't make equally the same money? The burden of the taxes will fall on the poor and the middle classes the hardest, while the rich and corporations get a tax break from the taxes they paid back when the country was considered number 1 and in the world and the middle class was strong.

I think that everyone should continue to be taxed according to their income. I also think that the cap should be raised to how much money you make then you don't paid taxes.

So, why should everyone be taxed at the same rate?


Steve Williams Sunday, August 9th 2015 at 4:51PM

Brother Deacon,

The same reason that Yah instituted a flat rate.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, August 9th 2015 at 6:26PM

Brother Steve,

We are talking about running the government of The United States of America.

Now back to my question: So, why should everyone be taxed at the same rate when we all are not equally bless in income?

Steve, you are giving me the impression that you really want to run from that question. if not, answer that question.



Steve Williams Sunday, August 9th 2015 at 11:10PM

Brother Deacon, you like to talk about the middle class. It's the middle class that's hit hardest by taxes

Steve Williams Monday, August 10th 2015 at 4:31PM

Trump's still at 23% and 24% in the last two polls I saw.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, August 10th 2015 at 11:06PM

Now if there was a flat tax imposed on the people, then that would in FACT be a tax cut for corporations and rich
And then is want the libertarian party and the Republican Party wants. A flat tax would not address the problem of the national debt.

Steve Williams Tuesday, August 11th 2015 at 1:58AM

What is the source of the national debt Brother Deacon?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, August 13th 2015 at 10:32PM

WAR!!!! Brother Steve, TWO WARS that was kept off the books by THE BUSH administration, TAX breaks from Big Corporations and unfair trade just to mention a few Brother Steve.


Steve Williams Friday, August 14th 2015 at 1:58AM

Brother Deacon, don't forget the bailouts.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, August 14th 2015 at 9:08AM

That is right!!! Obama did have to clean up the worst recession since the Great Depression and since that happened the Unemployment Rate & Trends is down to 5.3% from 10.% during the BUSH years. Do you want to go back to that Brother Steve??

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, August 14th 2015 at 8:35PM

Oh by the way Brother Steve, at this point The United States under the Obama administration is celebrating 64 months of job growth despite the republicans efforts to stop his lead at every turn.

This is a win for the American lower and middle class. Why should any libertarian/ republican be against Americans getting jobs, paying, taxes and living the American Dream.

robert powell Friday, August 14th 2015 at 9:36PM


SUBJECT-------Donald Trump: Offends Mexico and says goodbye to Latino Vote

Successful American business magnate Mr.Donald John Trump, Sr.

and the selfProfessed 'whiteMan' Leading the blind deacon nonreader and badMemory guy writes..............

".....Brother Deacon, don't forget the bailouts...."
Friday, August 14th 2015 at 1:58AM
Steve Williams

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The "bank" bailout (a misnomer, since other agencies were bailed out as well) was begun under Bush's Treasury Secretary Paulson and the last months of the Bush/Cheney administration, with the help of Bush-appointed Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke.

President-Elect Baraaka Hussein Obama was able to distribute much of the $700 billion until regulations for its use could be enacted by the Democratically-controlled Congress.

Mr. Trump would NEVER have did what the President Bush did...........

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, August 14th 2015 at 10:14PM

I know, The Trump would have let them go bankrupt.

robert powell Friday, August 14th 2015 at 10:30PM


There are more LAWS passed by MANY Congresses DEALING with the bankrupt.

Most of the Bankrupt ---- ARE SUCCESSFUL and the MOST intelligent hardworking Americans that giving a momentary reprieve BOUNCE back STRONGER and take CARE of their Obligations............

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, August 14th 2015 at 11:17PM

That Reply has nothing to do about what The Trump would do. The Donald is the king of bankruptcy and hundreds of thousands of people has hurt by his shenanigans and would be the best man for the job to continue the government of oligarchy.

Steve Williams Friday, August 14th 2015 at 11:25PM

Brother Deacon,

I don't see any difference between Bush and Obama. They both spent money they didn't have. That's why we need Rand Paul, or Ben Carson.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, August 15th 2015 at 8:23AM

Brother Steve,

If you can't see the difference in between the Obama and the Bush administrations, I got one question to ask you, which administration would you to live in, the Obama's administration or the Bush administration?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, August 15th 2015 at 9:14AM

Robert,

The republican party will fall apart if The Donald is their nominee for president. GO TRUMP.

Steve Williams Saturday, August 15th 2015 at 12:07PM

Brother Deacon,

I didn't vote for either one either time. The great thing about voting, we can say "none of the above."

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, August 15th 2015 at 3:35PM

And the sad part about that logic is you are now practicing in the form of taxation without representation, that is sad.

Steve Williams Saturday, August 15th 2015 at 7:43PM

What about you Brother Deacon, do you think you are well represented by your senators and representatives?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, August 16th 2015 at 10:11AM

Brother Steve, I did not ask you if you voted or who you voted for but I did ask you this question: Which administration would you like to live in, the Obama's administration or the Bush administration?

Now to answer your question, YES!!! Overall.

YES!!! Overall.

Steve Williams Sunday, August 16th 2015 at 6:39PM

Brother Deacon,

I don't want to live in either the Bush administration or the Obama administration. I don't know how else to put it.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, August 16th 2015 at 8:08PM

OK Brother Steve,

Why wouldn't you want to live in and continue the policies of The BUSH administration?


Steve Williams Monday, August 17th 2015 at 8:18AM

Brother Deacon,

Bush was a poor speaker, a war monger, and didn't represent me. Obama is a slick talker, a spendthrift, and doesn't represent me.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, August 17th 2015 at 9:12AM

Brother Steve,

Then, who represents you?

Steve Williams Monday, August 17th 2015 at 12:35PM

Brother Deacon,

The candidates I vote for, if they're elected, are who represent me, even if they don't always do things as I would wish. Someone I voted for but doesn't win, and those I didn't vote for, don't represent me.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, August 17th 2015 at 12:52PM

Brother Steve,

You are talking like a use car salesman now. I asked you a simple question: "Then who represents you?" Now you give me this song and a dance with all of these twists and turns. Bush or Obama doesn't represents your views, all I ask was then WHO?

Steve Williams Monday, August 17th 2015 at 7:31PM

Brother Deacon, I voted for Pat Toomey so unfortunately he represents me.

Steve Williams Monday, August 17th 2015 at 7:32PM

The good news is he's up for reelection.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, August 18th 2015 at 9:11PM

Steve, you know fool well that we was talking about presidential candidates? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Toomey

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, August 18th 2015 at 9:13PM

Steve, you know fool well that we was talking about presidential candidates? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Toomey



robert powell Wednesday, August 19th 2015 at 9:31PM


SUBJECT-------Donald Trump: Offends Mexico and says goodbye to Latino Vote

Successful American business magnate Mr.Donald John Trump, Sr.

yet

selfProfessed BIA 'whiteMan' and a BIA selfProfessed 'blackHebrewIsraelite' spend 10s of thousands of replies on .

"...Brother Deacon, I don't see any difference between Bush and Obama. They both spent money they didn't have. That's why we need Rand Paul, or Ben Carson.

Friday, August 14th 2015 at 11:25PM
Steve Williams

Robert, The republican party will fall apart if The Donald is their nominee for president. GO TRUMP.


Saturday, August 15th 2015 at 9:14AM
Deacon Ron Gray

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There is a BIG Difference between President Baraaka Hussein Obama AND georgeBush

One common trait ----- they were BOTH elected by a Majority of Americans to be there COMMANDER in CHIEF

of the Economy, their Taxes, their DIRECTION for 8 YEARS----paulCarson are FRAUDS and will NEVER be Elected by the American People because they are IDIOTS.................

as for Mr. Donald Trump ---- again BANKRUPTCY is American Law and General Policy of many Americans

Mr. Donald Trump, he is ALREADY the COMMANDER in CHIEF of the REPUBLICAN Party and will secure MORE AfricanAmerican, Latino, Women and 'whiteMale' Voters than any other American in 2016

Steve Williams Thursday, August 20th 2015 at 1:18AM

Brother Deacon,

A chief executive should enforce the laws not make them. But modern America seems to want a return to monarchy.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, August 20th 2015 at 9:55AM

Brother Steve,

I see that you are still running from this question of Now you give me this song and a dance with all of these twists and turns. Bush or Obama doesn't represents your views, all I ask was then WHO? back on Monday, August 17th 2015 at 12:52PM

Steve Williams Thursday, August 20th 2015 at 5:53PM

Brother Deacon, the same person I voted for in 2012, Jill Stein. I won't worry about 2016 for another year yet.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, August 20th 2015 at 10:29PM

Brother Steve,

How did that vote work out for you?

Steve Williams Friday, August 21st 2015 at 4:38AM

It worked out great Brother Deacon. I voted on Election Day, not early, and not by mail. I talked with many of my fellow citizens about whom I was voting for, whom I was not, and why. I did my small part in the civic process and I'm satisfied.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, August 21st 2015 at 11:05AM

Presidential Candidate Jill Stein Calls for Abolishing Student Debt and Making Public Higher Education Free at NJ Student Power Conference

Since for support Education Free, then look at Bernie Sanders.

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