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PolitiFact: Trump wins 'Lie of the Year'

PolitiFact: Trump wins 'Lie of the Year'

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. · Monday, December 21st 2015 at 3:42PM · 2475 views
Fact-checking website PolitiFact has administered its "Lie of the Year" title to Donald Trump for the Republican presidential candidate's "various statements" throughout his 2016 campaign.

"When it comes to inaccurate statements, the Donald was on fire," Politifact said Monday in announcing the title.


PolitiFact found that about three-quarters of the Trump statements it reviewed were "mostly false," "false" or "pants on fire."

The remarks listed as "pants on fire" included Trump's claim that he watched "thousands and thousands of people" cheering when the World Trade Center buildings fell on 9/11, something he has stood by despite an onslaught of scrutiny from independent fact-checkers.


Trump's claim that the Mexican government sends "the bad ones over" the border and a statistic he shared on Twitter overstating the number of white people killed by black people (that he later sought to distance himself from) were also listed as "pants on fire" remarks.

"Trump hasn’t apologized or backtracked on his statements. Instead, when challenged, he offers flimsy explanations and suggests he shouldn’t be held accountable — or simply insists he’s right," PolitiFact wrote on Monday.

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Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, December 21st 2015 at 3:45PM

This man wants Hilary to apologize for lying, what a joke.

Steve Williams Monday, December 21st 2015 at 6:28PM

Hillary gets five Pinocchios for the ISIS recruiting comment.

Steve Williams Monday, December 21st 2015 at 6:31PM

My advice Ron, switch to Fox.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, December 21st 2015 at 9:13PM

You got to go a little to win this crown PolitiFact: Trump wins 'Lie of the Year' Steve (LOL)

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, December 21st 2015 at 9:14PM

PolitiFact found that about three-quarters of the Trump statements it reviewed were "mostly false," "false" or "pants on fire."

Steve Williams Tuesday, December 22nd 2015 at 6:33AM

Then why does the public turn a blind eye to Rand Paul, who tells the truth? The reason Trump and Hillary are in the lead is because the public loves liars.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, December 22nd 2015 at 1:50PM

Because the public don't like Rand's program for the country, simple!!!

Steve Williams Tuesday, December 22nd 2015 at 3:03PM

What do you think about Hillary getting schlonged?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, December 22nd 2015 at 3:35PM

I thank that Donald is the right man to lead The Republican Party as the presidential nominee. Because he is saying what people are thinking.



Steve Williams Tuesday, December 22nd 2015 at 3:47PM

I think he says what he thinks. What I think is that Hillary is telling a whopper when she says she wants to run against him.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, December 22nd 2015 at 4:50PM

I think it would make good TV.

Steve Williams Tuesday, December 22nd 2015 at 10:31PM

I used to watch Morning Joe but now if I turn it on and hear the name Trump I turn it right back off. I wonder how Joe's ratings are these days.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, December 22nd 2015 at 11:02PM

Quick question: why do you turn off Morning Joe when Trump's name is brought up?

Steve Williams Wednesday, December 23rd 2015 at 7:50AM

Because Trump is overanalyzed.

Steve Williams Wednesday, December 23rd 2015 at 7:52AM

I did watch Chris Matthew's special last night though, Citizen Trump.

Steve Williams Wednesday, December 23rd 2015 at 7:54AM

What especially ticks me off is when they describe Trump supporters. I'm a Trump supporter but I'm not who they say I am.

Steve Williams Wednesday, December 23rd 2015 at 8:22AM

They are doing much better this morning.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, December 23rd 2015 at 9:04PM

Well... Who do they say Trump supporters are suppose to be?

Steve Williams Wednesday, December 23rd 2015 at 11:39PM

President Obama says I'm a blue collar worker with a grudge because I don't have a cushy factory job anymore.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, December 26th 2015 at 12:02AM

PolitiFact found that about three-quarters of the Trump statements it reviewed were "mostly false," "false" or "pants on fire." That is about 75%$ of what this man will till you is a LIE and many wants to follow him. Didn't you say that you was a supporters of the Donald?

WHY?

Steve Williams Saturday, December 26th 2015 at 7:56AM

Donald Trump is what we Libertarians value most, a producer.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, December 26th 2015 at 8:58AM

75 percent of what this man told the American people running to be the Republican Party nominee for president was a LIE and he is the guy you follow, WHY?

Steve Williams Saturday, December 26th 2015 at 9:36AM

I didn't say I follow him, I said I'm a supporter. Trump will have much more to say before all is said and done. He has a plan, whereas all Hillary has is her finger in the air.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, December 26th 2015 at 10:44AM

OK!!!! then a supporter. 75 percent of what this man told the American people running to be the Republican Party nominee for president was a LIE and he is the guy you support, WHY?


Steve Williams Saturday, December 26th 2015 at 11:05AM

He didn't lie about people dancing on the rooftops in New Jersey when the towers came down. I remember that myself.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, December 29th 2015 at 4:28PM

Then find me that LINK of thousand of people dancing on the roof tops when the twin towers came down, so I can say the same thing as you Steven, will you do that?



Steve Williams Tuesday, December 29th 2015 at 6:24PM

There is no link Ron. That doesn't make it false. Did you have a cellphone with video in 2001? I had a cellphone but not w/video. Where were you on 9/11?

Steve Williams Tuesday, December 29th 2015 at 6:26PM

Jeeze and I thought my memory was bad.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, December 29th 2015 at 9:09PM

Do you hear what you are saying to me Steven? YOUR WORDS: There is no link Ron. Then how did you see thousand of people dancing on the roof tops when the twin towers came down?

Steve Williams Tuesday, December 29th 2015 at 9:31PM

I didn't say I saw thousands, don't put words in my mouth. What I saw was on TV. Just like now I wasn't working and had the leisure to watch all I wanted.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, December 29th 2015 at 10:08PM

Donald Trump, did said it and you want to follow that LIER. What channel was you watch Steve? If you saw it on TV then you saw the same thing that the Donald saw. This is a video recording and should not be hard to find in the archives of news.

Show it to me Steve or stop that LIE.



Steve Williams Tuesday, December 29th 2015 at 11:52PM

Many other people remember too Ron.

Steve Williams Tuesday, December 29th 2015 at 11:56PM

Did you hear about this?

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015...

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, December 30th 2015 at 9:30AM

That is sad what boko haram is doing across northeastern Nigeria.

Now Steven, I take it that you can't find any proof of this LYING Donald Trump claims, that you said you saw it too, that you saw thousand or a few people dancing on roof tops when the twin towers came down on TV, is that correct?

Steve Williams Wednesday, December 30th 2015 at 9:57AM

Ron, what I wanted to know was had you seen the news, because I did not until by chance a full day later (I guess because they all too busy yakking about Trump).

robert powell Wednesday, December 30th 2015 at 10:33AM


PolitiFact: Trump wins 'Lie of the Year'

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Mr. Donald J. Trump; American Billionare Businessman will be the President in 2016

...BECAUSE of the False Information and Ignorant understanding of the "newsAgencies".... paidPolitical PUNDINTS

deacon PRESENTS

..."PolitiFact found three-quarters of the Trump statements it reviewed were "mostly false..false..pants on fire."

WHO IS ..and WHAT IS ...PolitiFact?

-----Did they VERIFY....GeorgeBush 'weapons of mass destruction'.... and ATTACK on IRAQ as goodIdea?

-----Do they VERIFY.....as spikeLee said "33,000" MURDERS in USA by Americans on Americans"?

-----Do they VERIFY.....African American unlawful ACTS and Incarceration Rates?

deacon ..... I believe that at least 75% of your BIA content is "mostly false..false..pants on fire."

STOP writing and crying about PolitiFact LIES and FALSEHOOD against Mr. Donald J. Trump




Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, December 30th 2015 at 12:18PM

WHO IS ..and WHAT IS ...PolitiFact?

PolitiFact.com is a project operated by the Tampa Bay Times, in which reporters and editors from the Times and affiliated media outlets "fact-check statements by members of Congress, the White House, lobbyists and interest groups".They publish original statements and their evaluations on the PolitiFact.com website, and assign each a "Truth-O-Meter" rating. The ratings range from "True" for completely accurate statements to "Pants on Fire" (from the taunt "Liar, liar, pants on fire") for false and ridiculous claims.

If you really want to know Robert.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, December 30th 2015 at 12:21PM

Steven,

Let's us get back on topic. You did not answer my question to you.

It was, now Steven, I take it that you can't find any proof of this LYING Donald Trump claims, that you said you saw it too, that you saw thousand or a few people dancing on roof tops when the twin towers came down on TV, is that correct?

Steve Williams Wednesday, December 30th 2015 at 1:45PM

Continuing on topic Ron, just because you didn't see the news from December 28, 2015, attacks by Boko Haram, doesn't mean they didn't happen.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, December 30th 2015 at 4:50PM

Steven,

Did you see my response on Boko Haram, Wednesday, December 30th 2015 at 9:30AM about five replies up from this one? I replied: That is sad what boko haram is doing across northeastern Nigeria.

Now Steven, I take it that you can't find any proof of this LYING Donald Trump claims, that you said you saw it too, that you saw thousand or a few people dancing on roof tops when the twin towers came down on TV, is that correct?

Are you going to reply to my direct question to you Steven?



Steve Williams Wednesday, December 30th 2015 at 7:16PM

I remember video reports of people in this country, in parking lots and on rooftops, who were happy the towers came down, yes.

Steve Williams Wednesday, December 30th 2015 at 7:20PM

Here is another video I've been unable to track down. From the time Bush arrived at Sarasota airport until taking off at 9:56. Where's the video Ron, I can't find it.

Steve Williams Wednesday, December 30th 2015 at 7:21PM

http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?...

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, December 30th 2015 at 10:34PM

Steven, I understand why you want to attempt to change the subject, I would do the same thing so I would not be BUSTED in that same lie and not want to face the truth that neither Donald Trump or you can produce any Video evidence of thousands or a few people dancing on roof tops when the twin towers came down on TV?

Steven, this video you claim to have seen on TV would have been Breaking News. This video would have been found and played, time after time and over and over and over again at the time Donald said it but no video was found and no video was played.

You can do better than this, I know you can do better.



Steven, Donald Trump was not caught LYING about Bush arriving at Sarasota airport so why are you trying to hi-jack this subject of this LIE of Trumps and you following him down that road. Shame on you!!!

OK! you want to follow a man who won LIER OF THE YEAR, OK! ENJOY THE JOURNEY, I get that but I am not going down that road with you.

Happy Trails to you...




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Steve Williams Thursday, December 31st 2015 at 6:46AM

You're operating on a valse premise Ron, that any bit of video from any local media outlet, in 2001, can be found in 2015 with a Google search. The video of George Bush running across the tarmac to Air Force One on the morning of 9/11, fearfully looking over his shoulder, was played over and over again. I still haven't found that video. Why?

Steve Williams Thursday, December 31st 2015 at 7:06AM

You may or may not have noticed Ron, that I've never claimed those people were Muslims. Is it that inconceivable to you that there were Americans on 9/11 that were happy to see the towers come down?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, December 31st 2015 at 9:42AM

Donald said he saw thousands of Muslims dancing on top of roof tops Steven and you agreed, saying you too saw this on TV. Steven, this is why Donald won that title "LIE OF THE YEAR."

I see that you can find information of BUSH running to jump on a plane but nobody can find footage of what both you and the Donald claimed to have seen on TV. So, what are you running for, the same title?

Prove me wrong Steven, find that footage and show me where I can see it, show me, can you do that? All I want to see from you is that proof, if you can't do that, then I will coincide your statement in the same colum as the Donald's.

Steve Williams Thursday, December 31st 2015 at 10:14AM

First of all Ron, I said Trump was not lying about people dancing on the roof. I said nothing about thousands of Muslims. Second, you seem to me to have verry inconsistend standards when it comes to what constitutes 'proof'.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, December 31st 2015 at 10:49AM

It was you who said that you was it on TV. It was the the Donald who said he saw thousands dancing on roof tops and you stand by the Donald's word.

Inconsistent standards my eye. You can't show me any of this footage nowhere, can you?

Showing all of us who are following this blog on Black In Americani the footage of this roof top seen, now that is what I call constituted POOF and not this side stepping that you are doing right now.

Show me this questioned footage, that's all!

Steve Williams Thursday, December 31st 2015 at 11:19AM

Ron, major media, including Morning Joe, say that there is some basis to what Trump said. Are you calling them liars too?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, December 31st 2015 at 12:29PM

Show me what you saw on TV Steven, since you said it, that is all I asked.



Steve Williams Thursday, December 31st 2015 at 2:58PM

Give me the inside track to the media outlets. BTW Dubai is on fire, they forgot about Bill Cosby, for a while.

Steve Williams Thursday, December 31st 2015 at 3:05PM

Wow, and they're still setting off fireworks.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, December 31st 2015 at 6:02PM

WOW!!! I see that you want the talk about anything but that LIE you told earlier and can't tell me why you have faith in someone that will LIE to your face, why is that Steven?

You do know that he won LIER of The Year Award don't you.




Steve Williams Thursday, December 31st 2015 at 9:09PM

Why should I agree with the Tampa Bay Times? Who made them qualified to decide 'liar of the year'?

Steve Williams Thursday, December 31st 2015 at 9:10PM

Did you ever say whether Joe Scarborough is a liar too?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, December 31st 2015 at 10:16PM

Then prove all of us wrong and find the Video that Donald Trump or you said that you saw that Video evidence of thousands or a few people dancing on roof tops when the twin towers came down on TV?

You said that you agree with the Tampa Bay Times, I am sure that the Tampa Bay Times have been looking high and low for that video footage too, since the Donald made that statement. (LOL)




Steve Williams Thursday, December 31st 2015 at 11:10PM

And then there was the wisp of a story that Mr. Farmer said was most disturbing of all: “That Muslims were dancing on the rooftops and in the streets of Jersey City and Paterson.”

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/11/25/nyreg...

Steve Williams Thursday, December 31st 2015 at 11:18PM

As proof, he cited a newspaper article, and his campaign adviser cited clips from New York station WCBS and MTV in 2001 - neither of which showed a large celebration.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-l...

Steve Williams Thursday, December 31st 2015 at 11:23PM

Fox's Eric Bolling: "I Know There Were Muslims" In The U.S. "Who Were Happy That The World Trade Center Came Down." On the December 1 edition of Fox News' The Five, co-host Eric Bolling claimed that he "remember[ed] specifically the news reports about Jersey City. They said people were on the roofs watching the planes fly in" on September 11. Bolling added, "I know there were Muslims and Muslim groups in the United States who were happy that the World Trade Center came down":

ERIC BOLLING: So I remember this day, and I stood on the New York side and I watched the plane fly into the tower. I remember the next day and I remember the news reports and I remember specifically the news reports about Jersey City. They said people were on the roofs watching the planes fly in. They were tipped off prior to the thing. And this was a narrative that was going on. I remember video, I don't remember if it was Pakistan or Paterson. But there was also a lot of talk. Now the reason why I know this, is cause I was in the building in 1993 when it was blown up by Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman, who was the "Blind Sheikh," who devised the plan to blow up the World Trade Center in '93. It didn't work. But he was the Jersey City imam. And I remember there were claims that his group, his whole mosque,was cheering the planes actually finally doing what he tried to do in 1993. Whether or not it was a thousand, thousands, a few hundred, a handful? Who cares?

http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/12/0...

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, December 31st 2015 at 11:29PM

Now that you see that The New York Times reported that story was bogus, then what are you going to do, are you going to hold on to the LIE and double down like your boy Donald or are you going to drop that LIE and brake free from that LIE, what are you going to do?



Steve Williams Thursday, December 31st 2015 at 11:32PM

MSNBC's Joe Scarborough: There's An "Element Of Truth To What Trump Is Saying." On the November 25 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe, co-host Joe Scarborough said the media was "overreact[ing]" to Trump's claim and that "there is one element of truth to what Trump is saying":

JOE SCARBOROUGH: You know what, there is one element of truth to what Trump's saying that is true and funny because the poor Washington Post reporter writes this. At the time. And now he is really, really backing up, going 'Oh I don't know what I saw.' Listen, if he didn't see it he wouldn't have put it in the newspaper. So this is what people always do. They overreact to Donald Trump's overreaction and in overreacting to Donald Trump's overreaction, whether it was a joke he said about McCain or whether it was, remember it was a list of things every Sunday. The mainstream media overreact and give him a kernel of truth to hold on. Now Willie, everybody's saying oh, nobody ever danced on roof tops. There's a Washington Post article that says they did. Just say he's exaggerating.

[...]

SCARBOROUGH: But the point is though, it's in The Washington Post, just say they investigated it and it may have been a handful of people and Trump is exaggerating it to a thousand people. Now everybody is going around, going 'Oh, it never happened.' Well, if it never happened, Willie, why did The Washington Post report on it? [MSNBC, Morning Joe, 11/25/15]

Steve Williams Thursday, December 31st 2015 at 11:34PM

I don't give a damn that the Times says it was bogus. The fact is there were reports and they were made on TV.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, December 31st 2015 at 11:47PM

You said that you saw it people dancing on roof tops when the twin towers fell on TV, show me that footage.

Steve Williams Friday, January 1st 2016 at 12:25AM

I said I saw reports. Former Lt. Governor Tom Kean says "Trump was right."

http://www.msnbc.com/andrea-mitchell-repor...

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, January 1st 2016 at 1:23AM

He was right about the rumors but they did not check out, it didn't happen he said. So, what are you coming to do, hold on to that LIE or drop it?

HAPPY NEW YEAR...

Steve Williams Friday, January 1st 2016 at 9:03AM

Happy New Year Ron. Here is part of the proof.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-roo...

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, January 1st 2016 at 10:05AM

This comes from the same link you gave me as some proof of what the donalds says he saw on TV. By Clicking on the Schlussel told The Washington Post link I found this info.
Fact Checker
Trump’s outrageous claim that ‘thousands’ of New Jersey Muslims celebrated the 9/11 attacks https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-c...

Sorry to say that there have been professionals that have been looking for this video footage for days after the donald say this mess and they found nothing.

So, far everything you have shown me more evidence that this video footage don’t exist. Sorry Steven the things that Donald said is still in the BS column, along with your claims as well.

Steve Williams Friday, January 1st 2016 at 10:31AM

This is one of the video reports I saw. But it's not the whole report. Why? There were other reports including from WCBS. These are in the media archives that only journalists can get to. Where is the WCBS reporting Ron? Where?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, January 1st 2016 at 11:03AM

From what I saw in the link that you provide, I did no thousand of people or see anyone dancing on the roof top in New Jersey while the twin tower was falling. This story is still in the LIE column without proof of this video footage.

OH! before I go, you said this: These are in the media archives that only journalists can get to. Steven, don't you think that The Right Wing News Agency's like FOX News, would have brought this video footage out and burned that image in the minds of all Americans by now. They would do that just to support the leading GOP candidate?

Sorry Steven, the things that Donald said is still in the BS column, along with your claims as well.


Steven, try again later.

Steve Williams Friday, January 1st 2016 at 12:14PM

I might do that Ron.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, January 1st 2016 at 12:42PM

I will stand-by while you look.

Steve Williams Friday, January 1st 2016 at 1:27PM

Next on my list is to put up the video of Bush. It's in some old format that my iPhone can't handle.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, January 1st 2016 at 1:53PM

You don't have to worry about any statements from Bush because that is not what the Donald is accused of LYING about Steven, let us stay on topic. I want to see this video that you and the Donald was talking about from New Jersey.

Now if you can't find this video footage, ell me why you want to follow a person that will tell you a LIE 75 percent of the time and you know this FACT?

Steve Williams Friday, January 1st 2016 at 2:22PM

You haven't convinced me Trump is lying, Ron.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, January 1st 2016 at 6:01PM

I see that you ran from my question like I never asked it. (LOL)

You have not proof me wrong yet! I am still waiting that infamous, legendary and elusive footage you both said you seen? Are you Lying to me or what?



Steve Williams Saturday, January 2nd 2016 at 12:04AM

What evidence have you presented that Trump is lying or that I'm lying? Nothing Ron, absolutely nothing.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, January 2nd 2016 at 12:33AM

The FACT that you can't find any video footage of that LIE both you and Donald said happen.

That is something I told you, you could not find, that is what makes up that LIE you believe, STEVEN.

Tell you what, if you can't show us that video of Muslims dancing on the roof top in New Jersey by you next reply let us call it what it is, A LIE and put this puppy to rest, OK.

Steve Williams Saturday, January 2nd 2016 at 8:46AM

If you'd rather believe the media coverup Ron, that's fine. I realize MTV only showed you 2:10 of 'excerpt' and you want desperately to believe that's all there is to the story.

Steve Williams Saturday, January 2nd 2016 at 8:48AM

That's 2 minutes 10 seconda. I hear you can get a good deal on a bridge in New York.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, January 2nd 2016 at 9:10AM

Steven, Time after time and time again, I have asked you to show me your proof of the video footage you claim to have seen on TV of Muslims dancing on the rooftops in New Jersey as the twin towers was falling in New York and I get nothing, no direction from you.

The person that you want to support, the Donald said he saw thousands of Muslims in Jersey dancing on rooftops and that is just one of the reasons why he won PolitiFact's Trump wins 'Lie of the Year' which it has been determined that 75% of the things that he said was a LIE and you still want to put your support behind that! WOW!

You can't show me this video footage but you can show me where I can get a good deal on a bridge in New York. (LOL) OK!

Steve Williams Saturday, January 2nd 2016 at 9:20AM

I know you are a big fan of videos Ron but in this case the media is sitting on them. Donald Trump is defying the media and they just can't stand that they are not in control of the narrative.

Steve Williams Saturday, January 2nd 2016 at 9:22AM

There's this little thing called copyright and the media holds the copyright.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, January 2nd 2016 at 10:47AM

In this country, money talks and BS walks, so I see you when you get back from that one.

This event was breaking news about a public event, this is history and can used providing you are not making a profit from copyrighted material.

FOX NEWS would have tried to support the Donald if this video was out there anywhere but it's not Steven, I see you when you get back from your run. (LOL)

Steve Williams Saturday, January 2nd 2016 at 12:06PM

Probably before then, Ron.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, January 2nd 2016 at 12:10PM

I am standing-by Steven.



Steve Williams Saturday, January 2nd 2016 at 8:38PM

On June 11, 1997, Philippe Kahn shared instantly the first pictures from the maternity ward where his daughter Sophie was born. He wirelessly transmitted his cell phone pictures to more than 2,000 family, friends and associates around the world. Kahn's wireless sharing software and camera integrated into his cell phone augured the birth of instant visual communications.[9][10] Kahn's cell phone transmission is the first known publicly shared picture via a cell phone.[11]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camera_pho...

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, January 2nd 2016 at 9:55PM

Hey Steven,

What do this have to do with your claim to support the Donald in the LIE?





Steve Williams Sunday, January 3rd 2016 at 8:19AM

Because Ron, if everyone had been carrying cameraphones in 2001 like we do now in 2015, you wouldn't be asking me "where's the video"? You are talking like a millenial.

Steve Williams Sunday, January 3rd 2016 at 8:24AM

First it was the Washington Post reporter retracting his article, now MTV releases a miniscule part of their report along with a longer segment from 2015 with that young woman trying to tell us, "oh, that's not really how it was".

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, January 3rd 2016 at 9:10AM

Sorry about if everyone had! If I would had moved on putting water in a bottle I would be a millionaire.

I am only going by what you said Steven. Where is the Video? I know you looked all around and found nothing but rumor.

Now if that sounds like a millennial, just think what you sound like to me!!! (LOL)


Steve Williams Sunday, January 3rd 2016 at 4:32PM

Hay Ron, what about this copyright issue? Can I force WCBS New York to release their video?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, January 3rd 2016 at 5:04PM

Try the Freedom of Information Act. if that don't work, try your search engine first Steven!!! (LOL)


Steve Williams Sunday, January 3rd 2016 at 8:05PM

Give me an example of the Freedom of Information Act.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, January 3rd 2016 at 8:27PM

Go through the court system,, if you think that video footage you claim to have seen on TV of Muslims dancing on the rooftops in New Jersey as the twin towers was falling in New York exist.

I see that you tried to use your search engine and found nothing. (LOL)



Steve Williams Sunday, January 3rd 2016 at 9:10PM

Give me an example of going through the court system to force release of video footage by a private company, e.g. WCBS New York.

Steve Williams Sunday, January 3rd 2016 at 9:11PM

Hint: try your search engine.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, January 3rd 2016 at 9:29PM

AH! Steven, you got a computer right? Use it for something more then this. You are trying to hard to live a LIE. If you have the proof, I am sure I would have seen that video footage you claim to have seen on TV of Muslims dancing on the rooftops in New Jersey as the twin towers was falling in New York.

It don't exist and you know it. Make it easy on yourself, DROP THIS LIE.

I hate to see you stoop this low.




Steve Williams Monday, January 4th 2016 at 12:22AM

Did you see this footage Ron?

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/20...

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, January 4th 2016 at 8:28AM

Just a couple of blocks away from that Jersey City apartment the F.B.I. raided yesterday and had evidence removed, there is another apartment building, one that investigators told me, quote, was swarming with suspects — suspects who I’m told were cheering on the roof when they saw the planes slam into the Trade Center.

Let me highlight this: “suspects who I’m told were cheering on the roof when they saw the planes slam into the Trade Center.” Now Steven, I ask you, is this the video footage you claim to have seen on TV of Muslims dancing on the rooftops in New Jersey as the twin towers was falling in New York?

This is no Vindication; this is more proof that Breitbart don’t have the video footage of thousands of Muslims or just 8 Muslims dancing on the rooftops in New Jersey as the twin towers was falling in New York.

Steven, do you know what rumor is? I am not looking for RUMORS STEVEN!!!

I am looking for what Donald seen and you support.


Steve Williams Monday, January 4th 2016 at 9:54AM

Get real Ron. In 2001 there were not video cameras on every rooftop. That's why it used to be called 'reporting'.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, January 4th 2016 at 1:58PM

That is my point exactly Steven, That Video that you and the Donald said they saw on TV don't exist. You can't find it, The Donald's team with all there millions can't find it but yet you still want to support that LIE and BS. How sad.

Steve Williams Monday, January 4th 2016 at 3:13PM

Seventy-seven percent of Republicans get angry once a day, compared to 67 percent of Democrats.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-anger-in-...

Do you believe these results Ron?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, January 4th 2016 at 6:43PM

The 100 percent of the republicans should be angry as hell with that LIE that the Donald told about of the video footage of thousands of Muslims he saw on TV thousands of Muslims dancing on the rooftops in New Jersey as the twin towers was falling in New York?

You should be mad as hell that you support that LIE where for three days you have tried to find that video footage to support your claim.

You should be mad that you told me that LIE you saw it on TV too.

If I was a Republican, I would be very angry the this LIER is in the lead for the republican party nominee for president.

I see that you will put up anything to talking but that LIE you told me and that LIE the Donald told you to your face to believe and you bought it hock, line and sinker.

Just look at you...

Steve Williams Monday, January 4th 2016 at 8:48PM

Is this what you're talking about? Because I don't see the word video anywhere, do you?

"I watched in Jersey City, N.J., where thousands and thousands of people were cheering" as the World Trade Center collapsed.
— Donald Trump on Saturday, November 21st, 2015 in comments during a speech

Steve Williams Monday, January 4th 2016 at 8:50PM

Or this statement, where is the word video?

He didn't lie about people dancing on the rooftops in New Jersey when the towers came down. I remember that myself.
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Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, January 4th 2016 at 10:04PM

Donald said he saw it on TV and you support his LIE. Quick Question Steven, what is it that you see from news reports and it is not film, what is it?


Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, January 4th 2016 at 10:13PM

Trump’s outrageous claim that ‘thousands’ of New Jersey Muslims celebrated the 9/11 attacks https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-c...

Steve Williams Monday, January 4th 2016 at 10:20PM

Ron, video reports are the talking heads. Neither Donald nor I have said we saw footage of the dancing people themselves. Certainly I never said so, nor did I ever say it was thousands of people.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, January 4th 2016 at 10:38PM

This report did say cheering / celebrated “Hey, I watched when the World Trade Center came tumbling down. And I watched in Jersey City, New Jersey, where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down. Thousands of people were cheering.”

Exchange on ABC’s “This Week,” Nov. 22, 2015 Said “police say it didn’t happen” — he insists that with his own eyes he saw “thousands and thousands” of cheering Arabs in New Jersey celebrating as the World Trade Center collapsed during the Sept. 11 attacks.

Trump says that he saw this with his own eyes on television and that it was well covered. But an extensive examination of news clips from that period turns up nothing. There were some reports of celebrations overseas, in Muslim countries, but nothing that we can find involving the Arab populations of New Jersey except for unconfirmed reports.

Have you ever seen anyone cheering / celebrating without that dance? of jumping up and down?

Steve Williams Tuesday, January 5th 2016 at 12:12AM

I didn't see ABC's This Week on Nov. 22, where can I find it?

Tell me Ron, within America which is the bigger threat, Islamic radicalization, or Christian radicalization?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, January 5th 2016 at 9:12AM

I told you Steven, you want to talk about anything in the world other then this LIE you told about the so-called video of Muslim on roof tops celebrating as the twin towers was falling in New Jersey and why you support this LYING THUG for the republican nominee for president of The United States of America.

You won't even admit that you can't find that video footage you claimed you saw?

First of all Steven, admit that you LIED and tell me why you support a LYIER for president and then we both can move on, just do act like I am not talking to you, that is a direct question.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, January 5th 2016 at 9:15AM

Oh, try that last link that you did not look at, that I provided as proof about that LYING THUG.

Steve Williams Tuesday, January 5th 2016 at 10:00AM

Ron, I answered your question way back. The answer is there and shouldn't be difficult to find.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, January 5th 2016 at 10:06AM

Man, I am sorry, I could not find it.

Copy it and post it again for me.



Steve Williams Tuesday, January 5th 2016 at 10:15AM

There is no link Ron. That doesn't make it false. Did you have a cellphone with video in 2001? I had a cellphone but not w/video. Where were you on 9/11?
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Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, January 5th 2016 at 10:58AM

Then how did you see it on TV NEWS STEVEN?

Steve Williams Tuesday, January 5th 2016 at 11:38AM

Jesus Joseph and Mary Ron! Let me know when you want to talk about the real issue.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, January 5th 2016 at 3:05PM



The Donald, insists that with his own eyes he saw “thousands and thousands” of cheering Arabs in New Jersey celebrating as the World Trade Center collapsed during the Sept. 11 attacks.

The reporters that reported this, should have had a camera and filmed this to put on TV, what you think? Having a cellphone with video in 2001 is a mute point STEVEN. From the beginning in the days of Black and White TV to the days of color I saw Breaking News from around the world. Now you come up with this...

There is no other real issue, then the question I just asked you Steven. Then how did you see it on TV NEWS STEVEN?

Steve Williams Tuesday, January 5th 2016 at 3:34PM

Ron, I think you're a Trumpophobe.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, January 5th 2016 at 4:06PM

Steven, It is not, what you think about me. It is what I think about you that counts.

Just to think about it Steven, you should know about who you are following because your LIE was a direct cause and effect from his LYING and you can't proof a thing and you don't even know the reason why, you told me that LIE. Now the sad part of this whole thing is, you follow that THUG anyway!!!! WOW!!!

Steve Williams Tuesday, January 5th 2016 at 6:01PM

I know exactly why I said what I said Ron. President Obama just handed Hillary's head on a platter to Trump.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, January 5th 2016 at 7:25PM

Obama, has nothing to do with the LIE Trump told and the LIE you told me. Do you why you told that LIE?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, January 5th 2016 at 7:27PM

Obama, has nothing to do with the LIE Trump told and the LIE you told me. Do you know why you told me that LIE?


Steve Williams Tuesday, January 5th 2016 at 8:33PM

I'm talking about his speech today, that took the "liar" title away from Trump.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, January 5th 2016 at 10:12PM

Poor thing, you think Donald the way so badly that you want even answer questions, what a shame.

Steve Williams Tuesday, January 5th 2016 at 11:51PM

Ron, I'm a single issue voter this year. I don't care who wins the Republican nomination as long as they are pro-gun.

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