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Judge Unseals Trump University Documents

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. · Tuesday, May 31st 2016 at 10:36PM · 2428 views
Judge Unseals Trump University Documents
One message from Donald Trump to students mentions tips for making a million dollars
By Jacob Gershman
Updated May 31, 2016 7:00 p.m. ET

The unsealed playbook outlines a “two-part” sales process in which a salesperson builds up trust with a potential customer and then passes the person to “program director” who closes the sale.

Customers were told Mr. Trump can’t personally meet with everyone who enrolls, but the company is looking for a “select group of people” that have been handpicked by a program director to receive “live, hands-on training with Donald Trump’s professional real estate instructors.”

The lawsuit alleges the instructors were merely “independently contracted high-pressure salesmen” who offered students nothing of marketable value.

The playbook features scripts that walk through what to do when a customer asks about the price: “If a client is adamant about knowing the price, simply say, ‘Our course range anywhere from $29 to $35,000,’” it says.

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Steve Williams Wednesday, June 1st 2016 at 7:12AM

Little of the records unsealed Tuesday was new, as Politico had already released the entire 2010 Trump University playbook. The cache of court documents also includes the 2009 playbook, which was far shorter and less extensive than its followup, but included many of the same guidelines...

While the documents unsealed Tuesday didn't reveal any bombshells, they did outline aggressive sales tactics that could provide further fodder for opponents' attacks...

We teach the technique of using OPM … Other People's Money," the script reads.

"Most students who are invited to this program use established lines of credit, like a credit card, utilizing the bank's money, OPM, to handle their tuition. I'm not talking about tens of thousands of dollars, but on the other hand, not a couple of hundred dollars either."

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-elect...

There's nothing here but common American retail sales practices.

Steve Williams Wednesday, June 1st 2016 at 7:22AM

Every American who goes to a car dealership wanting a brand new car is subject to these same tactics.

Steve Williams Wednesday, June 1st 2016 at 7:24AM

BTW Ron, another bubble is forming in the housing market. People never learn.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, June 1st 2016 at 8:01AM

YOUR WORDS: There's nothing here but common American retail sales practices.

If there was nothing there, why would these so-called common American retail sales practices be sealed?

Why would Trump , call a judge "hater" for his handling of a lawsuit related to the businessman's Trump University real estate school, has unsealed documents related to the case?

There is more.

YOUR WORDS: BTW Ron, another bubble is forming in the housing market. People never learn. That is on the republican controlled House and Senate because they have stopped every attempt of The Obama Administration to fix those problems, in order to make him a one term president, remember that Steven?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, June 1st 2016 at 8:34AM

BTW Steven, I like to raise this point up to you because I found this statement to be the lowest point that trump sink to and that was to call the Judge Curiel a “Mexican,” you can always tell when a person has nothing to say, they will go to the camp of ignorance and name calling and stay there, every time. You can see that here on Black In America. Now as far as I can see, according to reports Judge Curiel is not “Mexican,”but, rather, an American citizen who was born in East Chicago, Indiana. WOW!!!

Why do you tolerate this form of ignorance? WHY?

Steve Williams Wednesday, June 1st 2016 at 9:30AM

Ron, the housing bubble forming doesn't have to do with Republicans. It has to do with the Fed and interest rates.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, June 1st 2016 at 10:15AM

Steven, we can go down that street on who cause the housing bubble because it all happened on BUSH'S watch. when John McCain’s friend Phil Gramm wrote the bill that deregulated the banking industry, and stripped the safeguards that would have protected The American people and from memory, McCain himself, He’s stood by "deregulation of banking industry " time and time again.

Now let us get back to this subject Steven of the insults Trump is throwing at Judge Curiel as a Republican presidential candidate and the question that I asked you: "Why do you tolerate this form of ignorance? WHY? Is calling Judge Curiel a “Mexican,” is that the actions of a creditable Republican Presidential Candidate Steven?



Steve Williams Wednesday, June 1st 2016 at 4:48PM

I thought it was Judge Unseals Trump University Documents.

Steve Williams Wednesday, June 1st 2016 at 5:10PM

What did you learn from these 400 unsealed pages Ron?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, June 1st 2016 at 6:41PM

I see that you are trying to be funny, just can't bare to answer my questions.

YOUR WORDS: What did you learn from these 400 unsealed pages Ron?

According to Clinton, "He is trying to scam America the way he scammed all those people at Trump U," Clinton said

Hillary Clinton Calls Donald Trump a ‘Fraud,' Accuses Him of ‘Scam’ in Trump University: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-cli...

This is the kind of attention that the Donald don't want, which he done it to himself because of his lack of discipline. What man attacks the Judge that is over there case? Steven, would you do that?

Now let us get back to this subject Steven of the insults Trump is throwing at Judge Curiel as a Republican presidential candidate and the question that I asked you: "Why do you tolerate this form of ignorance? WHY? Is calling Judge Curiel a “Mexican,” is that the actions of a creditable Republican Presidential Candidate Steven?

Steve Williams Wednesday, June 1st 2016 at 6:50PM

No Ron, let's talk about the unsealed 400 pages.

Steve Williams Wednesday, June 1st 2016 at 6:57PM

Little of the records unsealed Tuesday was new, as Politico had already released the entire 2010 Trump University playbook. The cache of court documents also includes the 2009 playbook, which was far shorter and less extensive than its followup, but included many of the same guidelines...

While the documents unsealed Tuesday didn't reveal any bombshells, they did outline aggressive sales tactics that could provide further fodder for opponents' attacks...

We teach the technique of using OPM … Other People's Money," the script reads.

"Most students who are invited to this program use established lines of credit, like a credit card, utilizing the bank's money, OPM, to handle their tuition. I'm not talking about tens of thousands of dollars, but on the other hand, not a couple of hundred dollars either."

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-elect...

There's nothing here but common American retail sales practices.

Wednesday, June 1st 2016 at 7:12AM
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Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, June 1st 2016 at 7:38PM

No I really don't think that this is any bombshells but just a deeper look at trumps business practices, his LIES he told in his recruitment video. This man even LIE in the title of his school, "Trump University," that place was never a legal university in the first place. Trump U was a fraudulent scam in the first place, where Donald Trump enriched himself at the expanse of hard working people.

Trump is trying to scam America, just like he scammed the students at Trump U.

This man just took advantage of those students that had money and they lost there monies, messing around trying to be like Trump. (LOL) They got an education alright and that was, never to trust trump, they are pissed about that, aren't you?

Are you trying to be like Trump Steve?

Now let us get back to this subject Steven of the insults Trump is throwing at Judge Curiel as a Republican presidential candidate and the question that I asked you: "Why do you tolerate this form of ignorance? WHY? Is calling Judge Curiel a “Mexican,” is that the actions of a creditable Republican Presidential Candidate Steven?

Steve Williams Thursday, June 2nd 2016 at 4:57AM

So it's okay for the press to talk about how "latinos" hate Trump but it's not okay for Trump to say a "mexican" hates him. Whatever.

Steve Williams Thursday, June 2nd 2016 at 4:59AM

It's Mexican flags they are waving but they burn the American flag. I guess you're okay wit that.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, June 2nd 2016 at 6:41AM

No Steven, I am not OK with the burning of the American Flag but can you show me just one of those flag burners that is running for President of The United States of America, can you show me one?

I can show you one person who is running for President of The United States of America who believes that Mexican's are murderers and rapist, do you want to take on that challenge?

Are you trying to be like Trump Steve?

Now back to the blog material and my questions for you.

Now let us get back to this subject Steven of the insults Trump is throwing at Judge Curiel as a Republican presidential candidate and the question that I asked you: "Why do you tolerate this form of ignorance? WHY? Is calling Judge Curiel a “Mexican,” is that the actions of a creditable Republican Presidential Candidate you want to put in the oval office, Steven?



Steve Williams Thursday, June 2nd 2016 at 6:53AM

You stated the subject in your blog title Ron. I didn't respond because I wished to talk about Trump's statements about illegals. I responded about these unsealed pages that don't tell us a damn thing.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, June 2nd 2016 at 7:10AM

If you want to talk about Trump's statements about illegals., then go start your own blog about Trump's statements about illegals, Steven this is not the subject here. Let me tell you what the subject of this blog is, Judge Unseals Trump University Documents, now if you want to talk on this subject, then the doors are open Steven.

I also have these questions for you about Trumps actions he took with Judge Curiel. Now let us get back to this subject Steven of the insults Trump is throwing at Judge Curiel as a Republican presidential candidate and the question that I asked you: "Why do you tolerate this form of ignorance? WHY? Is calling Judge Curiel a “Mexican,” is that the actions of a creditable Republican Presidential Candidate you want to put in the oval office, Steven? Would you do such a thing?






Steve Williams Thursday, June 2nd 2016 at 10:44AM

Sure Ron, I'd call Curiel a Mexican. He's said so himself.

In discussing the case with The New York Times in 2002, Curiel didn't mention the threats against him, and said that it was useful that he and other prosecutors were of Mexican descent and could speak Spanish.


Steve Williams Thursday, June 2nd 2016 at 10:48AM

Do you have something against Mexicans Ron?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, June 2nd 2016 at 11:07AM

After Thimp made comments about the judge hates Trump, then he call the judge a Mexican for making him open up sealed papers that Trump did not want to ever be known to the public.

You know for a fact that trump ment that Mexican remark as a insult, just like trump meant that Mexicans was murderers and Rapist.

Steve Williams Thursday, June 2nd 2016 at 12:15PM

The Mexican remark wasn't meant as an insult Ron. You are the one acting like it's a dirty word.

Steve Williams Thursday, June 2nd 2016 at 12:24PM

You Democrats are the ones always invoking ethnicity.Wow.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, June 2nd 2016 at 1:29PM

I see you want to talk about anything but answering my questions or getting back to this subject of how Trump is a fraud and you don't care about the FACT.

Why do you tolerate this form of ignorance from Trump, WHY?


Steve Williams Thursday, June 2nd 2016 at 2:31PM

Now you want to go back to Trump is a fraud. I thought you wanted to talk about Mexicans.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, June 2nd 2016 at 2:58PM

What is the title of this blog?

Steve Williams Thursday, June 2nd 2016 at 3:09PM

Judge unseals Trump university documents. So what's the "legal" definition of "university"?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, June 2nd 2016 at 3:57PM

That was Fraud Steven, that's what! The staff of Trump U said it was a FRAUD. Trump did not want this FRAUD to be out there, so he takes the campaign trail to insult the judge who complied with a freedom of access act of release this documents. Trump is the only candidate running for president that is under indictment, and he wants to intimidate a sitting Federal judge.

This documents was not secret and did not need to be sealed. The sad part about all this is, you will not answer these questions: "Why do you tolerate this form of ignorance? WHY? Is calling Judge Curiel a “Mexican,” is that the actions of a creditable Republican Presidential Candidate you want to put in the oval office, Steven?

Why do you want this kind of man in the highest office in the world?

Steve Williams Thursday, June 2nd 2016 at 4:52PM

What do you know about Mexicans Ron? Not a thing it seems.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, June 2nd 2016 at 9:20PM

(LOL) Steven, you are right but what I do know is, that Donald Trump had disrespected the Federal courts with is blatant series of insults of sitting Federal judge in public, that is handling his case.

What I do know is that you have avoided my questions to you all day today. You have tried to change the subject of this blog on several occasions because you know for a fact that Donald was in the wrong, these release papers shows the people of the United States about it is fraudulent business practices, and his LIES and his attempts to con the American people, which you fall under that category, that I do know from your own words.

The proof is in your writings.

Steve Williams Thursday, June 2nd 2016 at 10:21PM

Trump University was small potatoes Ron. Think about it.

Steve Williams Thursday, June 2nd 2016 at 10:24PM

Did you notice Trump got Hillary finally to stop screeching?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, June 3rd 2016 at 2:02AM

Do you really think that disrespecting a federal judge that is handling the case of Trump U by saying in public, while campaigning for president of The United States of America, saying that the Judge hates him because the judge is Mexican, is small potatoes?

Then you really don't know what trump is all about, do you? You really don't know how to come to his defense, do you? You really don't know much about the Donald, do you?

Trump is the only candidate that you know nothing about but yet you are trying your best to take this blog off topic of Judge Unseals Trump University Documents. Now you know that Trump U what a scam for want to be like trump students and they got tricked, just like many of him followers.


Steve Williams Friday, June 3rd 2016 at 6:35AM

I said Trump University is small potatoes, but the lawsuit is too. All Trump did with the university was put his name on it, like he did with the steaks and wine. I doubt he made more than a few million on it. That's small potatoes. Ron, you know none of the facts of the case, you have no legal training, but that doesn't keep you from passing judgement. In the meantime they interviewed one of the Mexicans rioting in San Jose yesterday who proudly said that he was born to illegals, and when asked shouldn't U.S law be respected said flatly no, it should not be respected. I think maybe you are the one endorsing lawlessness Ron.

Steve Williams Friday, June 3rd 2016 at 6:45AM

And you can't see that this judge's unsealing of the documents was a political move, not judicial. Sad.

Steve Williams Friday, June 3rd 2016 at 8:01AM

Here's why I agree, BUILD THE WALL.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1QFpyuEmrIM

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, June 3rd 2016 at 11:20AM

This blog is not about some Mexicans rioting, this blog is about Trump U and now more of the American people have a insight of trump's business practice, which he really did not want public at this time.

It is not about the money Steven, I am all for that but what is in question here is, did trump deliver on his promises to educate people on real estate investment tips? Did he LIE by saying that he hand picked the instruction staff himself? was the instructors qualified to teach the courses? Did his staff pressure the students to MAX out there life savings and or credit cards to take part in more and more expensive courses by the staff using high power tactics? Why would trump disrespect a sitting federal Judge while on the campaign trail as the head of the republican party candidate for president of The United States of America? Why would you support such a man?

Can you answer those questions for me Steven, well can you? See Steven, those are the potatoes that is in question here in this blog. I really hope that you don't run from these questions like you have done in the past by trying the change the subject to something totally, totally unrelated, can you answer those questions? I really want to understand you.

Please take your time to answer those questions Steven, Thank You...



Steve Williams Friday, June 3rd 2016 at 2:51PM

I'm more interested in Hillary giving a speech where she didn't screech. Presidential they're calling it.

Steve Williams Friday, June 3rd 2016 at 2:54PM

And lawless Mexicans.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oEMZSn8iLr4

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, June 3rd 2016 at 4:12PM

Just what I thought, you can't do it, you can't defend his actions. Just admitted Steve, you have been conned by trump. Like so many of you, who are looking for this Great MAD Hope, to take back your country, asked yourself, from who?

Now you want to talk about Hillary's speech, Steven, I also have you covered there to as well, complete with the full speech and just below that is a reaction from morning Joe, you got to see it.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, June 3rd 2016 at 4:32PM

This trump U was a LIE in the first place and he should be made for all of that.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, June 3rd 2016 at 6:52PM

Poor Steven, having a hard time coming to the defense of trump, are we?

You are look real foolish now.

Steve Williams Friday, June 3rd 2016 at 7:01PM

Why do you avoid the hard questions Ron?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, June 3rd 2016 at 7:51PM

You don't have any on topic questions to be answered Steven.

Now why have you been avoiding my on topic questions Steven?

Steve Williams Saturday, June 4th 2016 at 12:46AM

Stop hiding behind "your topic" Ron.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, June 4th 2016 at 8:11AM

Stop running from "THE TOPIC AND MY QUESTIONS ABOUT TRUMP'S DISRESPECTFUL ACTIONS " Steven.

Why do you support such a man?

Steve Williams Saturday, June 4th 2016 at 9:08AM

Because we need to secure the border with Mexico.

Steve Williams Saturday, June 4th 2016 at 9:12AM

You don't know Mexicans Ron, I do. I've lived and worked in the Bay Area and Central Valley for over 30 years.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, June 4th 2016 at 9:43AM

That is great that you worked in the Bay Area and Central Valley for over 30 years but that really has nothing to do with the Judge order to Unseal Trump University Documents does it?

Stop looking foolish on this subject Steven, unless you are trying to be like trump!!! (LOL)

Steve Williams Saturday, June 4th 2016 at 10:10AM

It does have to do with the judge's order Ron, as you posted earlier.

Steve Williams Saturday, June 4th 2016 at 10:11AM

BTW Steven, I like to raise this point up to you because I found this statement to be the lowest point that trump sink to and that was to call the Judge Curiel a “Mexican,” you can always tell when a person has nothing to say, they will go to the camp of ignorance and name calling and stay there, every time. You can see that here on Black In America. Now as far as I can see, according to reports Judge Curiel is not “Mexican,”but, rather, an American citizen who was born in East Chicago, Indiana. WOW!!!

Why do you tolerate this form of ignorance? WHY?


Wednesday, June 1st 2016 at 8:34AM
Deacon Ron Gray

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, June 4th 2016 at 1:34PM

This term lawless Mexican or Building a wall or Hillary or Mexican's burning flags has anything to do with the insults that Donald trump spewed out of his mouth at the sitting federal judge that ordered the papers of trump U be opened to the American People.

I hope that you are not saying that in do, is that what you are saying Steven?

Steve Williams Saturday, June 4th 2016 at 4:30PM

This is what you said Ron: "they will go to the camp of ignorance and name calling..." Calling someone Mexican isn't name calling. Calling them Latino or Hispanic is.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, June 4th 2016 at 9:02PM

Did the judge burn a flag? is the judge lawless? Do you know that the judge speak hate?


Steve Williams Saturday, June 4th 2016 at 10:15PM

Probably not. Does he support illegal immigration is the question. He is a Democrat after all.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, June 5th 2016 at 12:25AM

Did Judge Curiel ordered the Unsealing of Trump University Documents is the question and the answer is YES and trump did not like that at all. So, from the campaign trail, trump said that the sitting federal Judge HATES HIM and he is a Mexican, which earlier trump made inferences that Mexicans where rapist, murderers and drug dealers, trying to use that mindset to influence the minds of his supporters and since he was a Mexican that judge Curiel should excuse himself from the case of Trump U.

Now from this actions from trump, many American people are looking at his business practices and seeing for the first time, that trump may not be good for the country.

Now Steven, Do you think Trump made a wise move in this case of his reply to a Federal Judge that is handling his case?



Steve Williams Sunday, June 5th 2016 at 6:43AM

Did you see the news about Alberto Gonzales? It was yesterday I guess but yesterday was all about Ali.

Steve Williams Sunday, June 5th 2016 at 6:46AM

Alberto R. Gonzales: Trump has a right to ask if Judge Gonzalo Curiel is fair
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingto...

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, June 5th 2016 at 9:08AM

Wasn't Alberto R. Gonzales the one who wrote the memo legalizing torture? No wonder he endorses Trump. Let me do some research to check my memory because I think that my memory of Alberto R. Gonzales, who served in the BUSH administration who had to step down in disgrace for his unacceptable opinions .

HERE MY FACT CHECK ON Alberto Gonzales. Alberto R. Gonzales (born August 4, 1955) was the 80th United States Attorney General, appointed in February 2005 by President George W. Bush, becoming the highest-ranking Hispanic American in executive government to date.[1] He was the first Hispanic to serve as White House Counsel, and earlier he had been Bush's General Counsel during his governorship of Texas. Gonzales had also served as Secretary of State of Texas and then as a Texas Supreme Court Justice.

Gonzales's tenure as U.S. Attorney General was marked by controversy regarding warrantless surveillance of U.S. citizens and the legal authorization of so-called "Enhanced interrogation techniques" (i.e., much later, generally-acknowledged as constituting torture), in the U.S. government's post-9/11 "war on terrorism". Following partisan calls for his removal, Gonzales resigned from the office "in the best interests of the department," on August 27, 2007, effective September 17, 2007.

Steven, you are fishing really hard to come to the defense of the actions of trump by using the opinion of someone who resigned in disgrace for trying to stop and hide the wheels of justice under the George W. Bush, administration.

Thank you for pointing this evidence out to me. I had almost forgot this highly published dishonor, shame and Degradation of the George W. Bush, administration. Now you have the nerves to present Alberto R. Gonzales to me as justifiable defense of Donald Trumps actions from the campaign trail , unbelievable Steven.

Do you agree with Alberto R. Gonzales legal authorization of so-called "Enhanced interrogation techniques?

Do you agree with Alberto R. Gonzales warrantless surveillance of U.S. citizens?

Now you are running to me asking the question "Did you see the news about Alberto Gonzales?"

To use this man as a reference point only backups the point that you agree with the suppression of justice to support the conning of the American people. Shame on you STEVEN, shame on your!!!.

I DON'T HAVE TO LIE. READ MORE about Alberto R. Gonzales : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberto_Gonz...

WOW!!!

Steve Williams Sunday, June 5th 2016 at 10:49AM

Wow Ron, you sure read a lot into

Did you see the news about Alberto Gonzales?
Sunday, June 5th 2016 at 6:43AM
Steve Williams | delete

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, June 5th 2016 at 4:25PM

Read the link you provide and as I was reading the actual artical, I started remembering who this Albert Gonzales was.

Now, are you using his opinion as a reference point to the actions of Trumps insulting a sitting jagde.

Why did you want to being up Albert Gonzales to this conversation?

Steve Williams Sunday, June 5th 2016 at 5:12PM

I gave you a notification, a date, and a link Ron. Not a goddamn thing otherwise.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, June 5th 2016 at 9:17PM

Look at you. Have you lost you mind Steven, that you say this: I gave you a notification, a date, and a link Ron. Not a goddamn thing otherwise. Sunday, June 5th 2016 at 5:12PM

WOW!!! LOOK AT YOU... I have given you FACTS and now you have given back all of this raw EMOTION. Now, if you was to channel this power in finding the true, you would never support this type of character of Donald Trump.

Just look at you now, I can't believe it. I can't believe that you can't express yourself no better then this: " I gave you a notification, a date, and a link Ron. Not a goddamn thing otherwise." Sunday, June 5th 2016 at 5:12PM

Both you and trump is having a bad week!!! WOW!!!

You have gave away to much of your power, WHAT A SHAME!!!

This shows me that you really wanted to bring Albert Gonzales in too use in defense of Donald Trump's defense but you was stopped dead in your tracks, just look at you. WOW!!! You can't handle the truth!!!


Steve Williams Sunday, June 5th 2016 at 10:37PM

I was watching the news at 6:30 this morning and gave you the heads up Ron. I hadn't even read the story at that point. Just look at the mess you made of nothing but a headline.

Steve Williams Sunday, June 5th 2016 at 10:38PM

Sad.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, June 6th 2016 at 8:10AM

Don't blame me for your failure to investigate the links that you use as a reference. It was on you for losing your mind, to get so emotional that you sitting at your house, behind locked doors, on your computer, that you turned on, read my response to some discredited Mexican of the Republican Party, to defend the actions of Donald Trump on the campaign trail, you actually used The Most High's name in vain.

YES IT IS "SAD" on your part that you can not express yourself any better than that. Look at you. You was watching TV news, once again, you have been willfully scammed, conned, cheated, tricked because you want to believe that Donald was right to insult a sitting Federal Judge from the campaign trail.

You are mad because I busted this LIE of yours early and for the last three days, you are finding out from others in the leadership of The Republican Party that he was wrong as hell for making his actions a race issue. Also you claimed that you did not read the story at that point, that you did not do the research and you blindly put your name on it and passed that, what you did not read as evidence to support trumps actions and you got the nerves to try and pass you losing your mind, using The Most High's name in vain, on me is pure BULL💩 and you know it.

That is right, "SAD!" What are you saying now by your last reply Steven? Are you saying that you was wrong by using that link of Albert Gonzales to me, what are you saying? Are you saying that you was wrong that you are backing a man who parents been in the country longer then his people been in the country, simply because he had a Mexican bloodline?

What are you saying STEVEN?



Steve Williams Monday, June 6th 2016 at 9:50AM

I read the article Ron but I don't think you did.

Steve Williams Monday, June 6th 2016 at 1:09PM

In Latin America, la raza may emphasize Native American heritage, or it may express Latino (Hispanic) identity (La Raza being short for La Raza Hispánica). Día de la Raza marks the arrival of Christopher Columbus to America.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, June 6th 2016 at 4:25PM

Steven,

These are your words back on Sunday, June 5th 2016 at 10:37PM "I hadn't even read the story at that point" and just today in this last reply you said this: "I read the article Ron but I don't think you did" Monday, June 6th 2016 at 9:50AM WHAT!!!

Why would you write this statement on Sunday, June 5th 2016 at 10:37PM "I hadn't even read the story at that point" if you did, in FACT read The Washington Post article titled: "Alberto R. Gonzales: Trump has a right to ask if Judge Gonzalo Curiel is fair"?

Steven, you said that you don't think I did. Didn't I tell you that I was reading the actual artical, I started remembering who this Albert Gonzales was. You never did quote the title of the article and you lost your damn mind because your plan, that series of LIES was stopped and blew up in your face before it got started, using this Alberto R. Gonzales who is Hispanic as your reference to justify the action of trump's.

Now if that is not true, then why did you introduce Alberto R. Gonzales to me in the first place?

You never did address the FACT why you got so emotional and used the Lord's name in vain over this topic, WHY?

Steven, either you was LYING then or you are LYING NOW! Now, you got to tell the people on Black In America, what do Christopher Columbus have to do with trump insulting a sitting Federal Judge that is handling the Trump U case?




Steve Williams Monday, June 6th 2016 at 6:24PM

AT THAT POINT RON! I know you don't have any use for news for the sake of news versus news for the sake of making a point. I gave you the news and then I read for myself.

Steve Williams Monday, June 6th 2016 at 6:30PM

The San Diego La Raza Lawyers Association (SDLRLA), the group which Trump University lawsuit Judge Gonzalo Curiel is a member of, considers various pro-illegal immigrant organizations as part of its “community.”

The SDLRLA’s website includes a side-panel on their site titled “Community” which includes links to a variety of groups, including the National Council of La Raza.



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/06/meet-the...

Steve Williams Monday, June 6th 2016 at 6:32PM

“I hear more and more Mexicans talking about la raza—to build up their pride, you know,” Chavez said, according to a 1969 New Yorker profile. “Some people don’t look at it as racism, but when you say ‘la raza,’ you are saying an anti-gringo thing, and it won’t stop there.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/06/meet-the...

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, June 6th 2016 at 8:50PM

So you are saying that you will send me stuff that you have not read, is that right?

Are you going to tell me the connection with Christopher Columbus and Donald trump insulting sitting federal Judge?

Are you going to explain why you lost your damn mind, using The Most High's name in vain over your failed attempt to defend trump?

Is this who you are liking for the peoples choice for president of The United States?

Actions speak louder than Trump: His own lawyer said “the judge is doing his job” in Trump U case https://www.yahoo.com/news/actions-speak-l...

Just three weeks before Donald Trump triggered a national firestorm over his claims that U.S. Judge Gonzalo Curiel was biased against him because of his Mexican heritage, his lead lawyer in the Trump University case praised Curiel for a “sound decision” and said he had no plans to file a motion for him to be recused.

trumps own lawyer say that Judge Curiel is doing his "JOB." Republicans have been running from trump like the plague!!! Mitch McConnell put distance between trump and him. The speaker of the house did the same thing too.

Well you hang on in there boy, just maybe you will awaken soon...

Steve Williams Monday, June 6th 2016 at 8:59PM

Yes Ron, I found the link and posted it before I'd read it. Was it on topic or not?

Steve Williams Monday, June 6th 2016 at 9:02PM

It's also on topic to point out the judge's affiliation with La Raza. "The Race".

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, June 6th 2016 at 10:52PM

Now you are back to the LIE of posting articles before you read it. Don't you think that was a foolish move? Since you tied to pass that one pass me. Steven, why did you hold on to that lie so long?

Tell me Steven, what do serving the law as Jadge has to do with a race in the case of Trump U in this amazing scam?

Steve Williams Monday, June 6th 2016 at 11:29PM

I have no idea what you are trying to say about lying about the article. I asked if you'd heard the news as soon as I heard it at 6:30 AM. I found the article and posted the link, then I read the article. La Raza absolutely has a bearing on the Trump University suit.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, June 7th 2016 at 6:46AM

These are your words back on Sunday, June 5th 2016 at 10:37PM "I hadn't even read the story at that point" and just today in this last reply you said this: "I read the article Ron but I don't think you did" Monday, June 6th 2016 at 9:50AM WHAT!!!

Why would you write this statement on Sunday, June 5th 2016 at 10:37PM "I hadn't even read the story at that point" if you did, in FACT read The Washington Post article titled: "Alberto R. Gonzales: Trump has a right to ask if Judge Gonzalo Curiel is fair"?

Now what trump has done was to bring his personal life into a public venue, trump did that by his racist statement Steven.

Let me ask you this question, do you feel that trump said in San Diego about Judge Curiel was “a hater of Donald Trump, a hater,” because Judge Curiel is a Mexican, from a Mexican bloodline is a racist statement?

Steve Williams Tuesday, June 7th 2016 at 6:55AM

Did you see the news about Alberto Gonzales? It was yesterday I guess but yesterday was all about Ali.
Sunday, June 5th 2016 at 6:43AM
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Steve Williams Tuesday, June 7th 2016 at 6:57AM

Alberto R. Gonzales: Trump has a right to ask if Judge Gonzalo Curiel is fair
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingto...
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Steve Williams Tuesday, June 7th 2016 at 7:14AM

I'll try one more time Ron.

1. I was watching Fox and Friends to catch up on the news Sunday morning because all day Saturday there was no news except about Ali.

2. Fox and Friends reported that Alberto Gonzales had written a piece for the Washington Post, about Curiel, in support of Trump, and they were going to have Gonzales as a guest at 7:45.

3. I looked up the article and posted the link. AT THAT POINT I had not read the article.

4. I went back to the Washington Post site and read the article.

5. At 7:45 I watched the interview with Gonzales.

In both the article and the interview Gonzales only supported Trump to the extent of saying he was within his rights to question if he was getting a fair trial. He did not support Trump saying Curiel is Mexican. Trump is entitled to a fair trial and Curiel is a member of La Raza and they advocate for illegal immigrants. Trump is correct to question if Curiel is unbiased, because Trump wants a wall and La Raza do not.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, June 7th 2016 at 9:55AM

You missed a point between point 3 and 4, you sent that link to an article that you did not read or Quoting a person who is held in disgrace by his own party. See Steven, this is the con, the republicans also have been conned by trump and they are in flux by what FOX NEWS has created. Now when your own lawyer say that the Judge was doing his job and you still don't listen, then you know your candidate is lost in the left field.

You got so overly emotional that you used The Most High name in vain, why Steven? You have flipped flopped a few times and you are the blame for your point being lost, WHY?




Steve Williams Tuesday, June 7th 2016 at 10:50AM

There's no point 3.5 Ron. It was a news article in the newspaper the Washington Post. A news article that did not need to be read by me before pointing it out.

Steve Williams Tuesday, June 7th 2016 at 10:51AM

On the Lord's name, I thought it was Yah.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, June 7th 2016 at 12:21PM

point that you left out of that picture.

For many the name of The Most High is "GOD!!!" and you know that, stop acting foolish.

You don't have a leg to stand on, coming to the defense of Trump, don't you see that Steven?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, June 12th 2016 at 11:46AM

Have you cooled down yet?

Steve Williams Sunday, June 12th 2016 at 3:00PM

It depends.

Steve Williams Sunday, June 12th 2016 at 3:03PM

This Orlando situation is concerning. What's the President said?

Steve Williams Sunday, June 12th 2016 at 3:05PM

They had an Imam on the last I saw. 50 people killed by one mujahid. Wow.

Steve Williams Sunday, June 12th 2016 at 3:08PM

There go gay rights.

Steve Williams Sunday, June 12th 2016 at 3:37PM

How very disappointing.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2016/06/12...

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, June 12th 2016 at 8:20PM

DAH STEVEN, this blog is not about that, stay on topic here of the Judge Unseals Trump University Documents.

Get yourself together man!

Steve Williams Sunday, June 12th 2016 at 9:52PM

Hiding behind "the topic" again I see.

Steve Williams Sunday, June 12th 2016 at 9:54PM

Keep your topic then Ron, I've got no use for it.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, June 12th 2016 at 10:41PM

I would run like hell and try to change the subject to if, I thought that I wanted to be trump like.

Then WHY are you here?




Steve Williams Sunday, June 12th 2016 at 10:54PM

People thought the threat wasn't real. They thought the economy was the biggest concern. The mujahideen are at America's door and you want to talk about what Ron?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, June 13th 2016 at 7:48AM

Steven,

Go start a blog on that subject because this blog is about how badly trump used the power of the campaign trail to attack a federal sitting judge for his decision to make trumps business practices public.

Go away Steven and run from this subject because you cannot right the wrongs of Donald.

Steve Williams Monday, June 13th 2016 at 8:46AM

Sure Ron, but I'm not starting another blog.

Steve Williams Monday, June 13th 2016 at 9:19AM

On second thought...

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, June 13th 2016 at 10:03AM

No Steven, feel free, don't second quest, You can't defend trumps actions, just do it!

Steve Williams Monday, June 13th 2016 at 10:38AM

Trump knows the purpose of the militia.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, June 13th 2016 at 12:07PM

Militia was set up by untrained local members of a town to catch runaway slaves, to fight in the war between the states and before the professional police departments was set up.

WOW! Steven, go you want to go back to that?

Steve Williams Monday, June 13th 2016 at 1:02PM

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state... Yes Ron, absolutely, I want to go back to that.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, June 13th 2016 at 1:30PM

We will never go back to slavery or the war between the states no matter what you want. WOW !!!

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state... Yes Ron, absolutely, I want to go back to that.
Monday, June 13th 2016 at 1:02PM


That will never happen.


Steve Williams Monday, June 13th 2016 at 2:01PM

I'm not talking about slavery or the civil war. I'm talking about the second amendment to the U.S. constitution, the highest law of the land, which the President swore to uphold when he took his oath of office.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, June 13th 2016 at 9:46PM

Then you agree with me that everyone in America should not feel the need to arm themselves? The only way a person would feel the need to arm themselves with the AK-47 or A.R. 15 is the Kill more people or that person is living in fear. That is not the attitude of the home of the free and proud.

But that is not the topic on this blog. Now I know that you know exactly what the topic is...

Steve Williams Monday, June 13th 2016 at 10:15PM

If you want to talk about the AR-15 we can do it elsewhere then, but I'm not in favor of banning such a weapon.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, June 14th 2016 at 7:33AM

OK!!! be prepared for more because the AR-15 is the weapon of choice.

Now back to the subject: "Judge Unseals Trump University Documents." TRUMP is using the republican Party for his own personnel gain,



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