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Donald Trump: 'I'm Not Sure If I Ever Asked God's Forgiveness'

Donald Trump: 'I'm Not Sure If I Ever Asked God's Forgiveness'

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. · Thursday, June 2nd 2016 at 6:57AM · 2101 views
Donald Trump: 'I'm Not Sure If I Ever Asked God's Forgiveness'

Donald Trump says he's not sure if he's asked God for forgiveness, at the Family Leadership Summit in Ames, Iowa on Saturday, which led some to question the sincerity of his alleged Christian faith.

Moderator Frank Luntz asked Trump on Saturday if he had ever sought God's forgiveness and Trump replied, "I'm not sure I have ever asked God's forgiveness. I don't bring God into that picture."

Trump clarified further about forgiveness in the church setting saying, "When I go to church and when I drink my little wine and have my little cracker, I guess that is a form of forgiveness. I do that as often as I can because I feel cleansed. I say let's go on and let's make it right," declared Trump.

Trump made immediate headlines Saturday for questioning McCain's war record, when he stated, "He's a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren't captured."

McCain has been critical of Trump's comments on illegal immigration and called Trump supporters at a rally in Phoenix, "crazies." Trump blasted McCain for graduating last or second to last in his class at the Naval Academy, but later added in his conversation with Luntz, "Perhaps he is a war hero."

"We have Christians in the Middle East getting their heads cut off and these people want results not tone," added Trump.






Trump too was asked about his faith in God and he elaborated on his admiration with his former pastor, Norman Vincent Peale. Trump said he could listen to Peale, who passed away in 1993, "all day long" and praised his book, The Power of Positive Thinking. Peale pastored Marble Collegiate Church in Manahattan for 52 years, which is a member of the Reformed Church in America denomination.

Eric Teetsel, director of the social conservative advocacy group Manhattan Declaration, was live-tweeting at the event and several times voiced his displeasure at Trump's remarks.

"So [Trump] has never sought forgiveness, takes his 'little wine and little cracker' to 'feel cleansed.' Now are we done?" Teetsel tweeted. Becky Kruse, who attended the event and said she was considering Trump for his immigration stance, told The New York Times, "I was not too impressed. He sounds like he isn't really a born-again Christian."

READ MORE: http://www.christianpost.com/news/donald-t...

Like always, I open this material to the floor for serious discussion because it is nothing more important than a serious dialog of the education and our future of our Hebrew people.




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Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, June 5th 2016 at 10:23AM

If this man never asked the LORD for forgiveness, then why do the evangelicals follow a man such as this?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, June 5th 2016 at 8:39PM

I don't know of any sinner, that has turned to Christ that don't follow our father law, to asked for forgiveness. This only thing that don't ask for forgiveness is satan and his followers.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, June 8th 2016 at 10:00AM

That man see's himself as sinless. What he does is just double down on a LIE or his disgraceful actions.

I wonder how loud why the evangelist follow a man such as this?

Steve Williams Wednesday, June 8th 2016 at 6:52PM

Ask an evangelist.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, June 8th 2016 at 8:13PM

That question was for an evangelist when you popped up!!! Do you understand why you follow this man?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, June 8th 2016 at 10:10PM

Steven...

Steve Williams Thursday, June 9th 2016 at 1:33AM

Follow? Like, why does an evangelist follow Jesus?

Steve Williams Thursday, June 9th 2016 at 1:34AM

Or like, why does a democratic follow Rachel?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, June 9th 2016 at 7:34AM

Hey slick, I am asking you a question that only you can answer. Do you understand why "YOU" follow this man Trump? Not Jesus or Rachel, neither of these people our running for President of The United States of America as the Republican Party nominee.

Do you understand why "YOU" follow this man Trump?

Steve Williams Thursday, June 9th 2016 at 7:44AM

I don't follow Trump, that's the point Ron. I follow the news about him and will vote for him. That makes me a supporter. The only thing I try to follow is the Buddhist law.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, June 9th 2016 at 8:12AM

I stand corrected Steven , Why would you support Donald Trump, Steven?

Steve Williams Thursday, June 9th 2016 at 9:05AM

Because he said "One Corinthians".

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, June 9th 2016 at 12:03PM

WOW REALLY!!! You know that saying One Corinthians is incorrect don't you, don't you?

Steve Williams Thursday, June 9th 2016 at 3:33PM

I know that for a Scottish Presbyterian it is absolutely correct.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, June 9th 2016 at 9:06PM

Wait just one minute, are you saying that donald
Is a Scottish Presbyterian!!! Is that what you are saying Steven?



Steve Williams Thursday, June 9th 2016 at 9:37PM

Duh.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, June 9th 2016 at 10:41PM

Steven,

I knew about the Presbyterian part because He told Christian Broadcasting Network in 2012: “I’m a Protestant; I’m a Presbyterian. And you know I’ve had a good relationship with the church over the years. Now the Scottish part is something new. Maybe I over looked that in my quick search, can you show me where I read this?


Steve Williams Friday, June 10th 2016 at 3:16AM

His mother gave him the bible he read from at Liberty University. Scotland is strongly Presbyterian.

Donald Trump is the son of a Scotswoman. His mother, Mary Anne MacLeod was from the hebridean Island of Lewis, off the west coast of Scotland, from where she emigrated to America and met and married Frederick Trump, of German origin. At that time, MacLeod was the most common surname in the island and is well represented there to this day.

https://www.scottishroots.com/people/donal...

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, June 10th 2016 at 10:41PM

Hey Steven, Thank You for this information about Frederick Trump, or his mother Mary Anne MacLeod was. The focus of this conversation is mainly about Trump's Scottish Presbyterian membership and the possible connection that saying “One Corinthians". is correct and nothing else.

Now where that link connected me to https://www.scottishroots.com/people/donal... had nothing to do with our topic of trump being connected to any Scottish Presbyterian Church, like you have stated in this statement of yours:"I know that for a Scottish Presbyterian it is absolutely correct." Thursday, June 9th 2016 at 3:33PM

Now Steven, here's what I do know is this. First Presbyterian Church 89-60 164th Street Jamaica (Queens), N.Y. 11432

http://www.firstchurchjamaica.org , which aired nationwide Tuesday at 10 a.m. on "The 700 Club," Trump shared that he used to attend First Presbyterian Church in Jamaica Queens.

TRUMP: I believe in God. I am Christian. I think The Bible is certainly, it is THE book. It is the thing," Trump told Christian Broadcasting Network's David Brody. In the six-minute interview clip, which aired nationwide Tuesday at 10 a.m. on "The 700 Club," Trump shared that he used to attend First Presbyterian Church in Jamaica Queens. Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/49797/#j...

Now let me look just to see if I can find this church so, we can verify that Scottish Presbyterian claim of yours.

First Presbyterian Church 89-60 164th Street Jamaica (Queens), N.Y. 11432 Click on this link Steven.
http://www.firstchurchjamaica.org/ The first think that I noticed was the address of this church, this church is in QUEENS. Now what I won't you to do is click on that link where trump told Six Minutes that he attend First Presbyterian Church in Queens.

The second thing that I questioned was, Scottish Presbyterian Church, OK!

Steve Williams Saturday, June 11th 2016 at 2:21AM

The problem is Ron, you don't know what Scottish is, nor Presbyterian.

Steve Williams Saturday, June 11th 2016 at 2:27AM

Presbyterianism is a part of the Reformed tradition within Protestantism which traces its origins to the British Isles. Presbyterian churches derive their name from the presbyterian form of church government, which is governed by representative assemblies of elders. Many Reformed churches are organized this way, but the word "Presbyterian," when capitalized, is often applied uniquely to the churches that trace their roots to the Scottish and English churches that bore that name and English political groups that formed during the English Civil War.[2] Presbyterian theology typically emphasizes the sovereignty of God, the authority of the Scriptures, and the necessity of grace through faith in Christ. Presbyterian church government was ensured in Scotland by the Acts of Union in 1707[3] which created the kingdom of Great Britain. In fact, most Presbyterians found in England can trace a Scottish connection, and the Presbyterian denomination was also taken to North America mostly by Scots and Scots-Irish immigrants. The Presbyterian denominations in Scotland hold to the theology of John Calvin and his immediate successors, although there are a range of theological views within contemporary Presbyterianism.

Steve Williams Saturday, June 11th 2016 at 2:43AM

King James himself used to say One Corinthians.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, June 11th 2016 at 8:26AM

Proof THAT!!!

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, June 11th 2016 at 8:32AM

The connection is Donald Trump and the Scottish Presbyterian in Jamaica Queens New York and not The existence of that church!

Steve Williams Saturday, June 11th 2016 at 3:36PM

Of course King James said One, because he knew the difference between ordinal and cardinal numbers, just like the British do to this day. It's American Christians who are the oddballs. Trump got his religion from his mother, who was Sottish and Presbyterian, and said One Corinthians.

Steve Williams Saturday, June 11th 2016 at 4:02PM

If "first" Corinthians were correct, it would be written as "1st", not "1".

Steve Williams Saturday, June 11th 2016 at 4:04PM

BTW I'm sure Donald has asked God for forgiveness.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, June 11th 2016 at 5:40PM

This is what Donald Trump told Moderator Frank Luntz when he asked Trump on Saturday if he had ever sought God's forgiveness and Trump replied, "I'm not sure I have ever asked God's forgiveness. I don't bring God into that picture."

Let me highlight "I'm not sure I have ever asked God's forgiveness. I don't bring God into that picture."

He don't bring, who is this, to set himself as a equal to say he don't bring God into that picture, like he got a choice.

How do you feel sure that the Donald asks God for forgiveness, when this man makes a statement like this?

Steve Williams Saturday, June 11th 2016 at 5:55PM

That's not what he said Ron. Watch again.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A3l0e6nS9oI

Steve Williams Saturday, June 11th 2016 at 5:57PM

Are you alleging that Donald has never said the Lord's Prayer?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, June 11th 2016 at 6:57PM

No!!! Steven, The Lords Prayer NO!

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, June 11th 2016 at 7:12PM

Didn't I tell you what a quote of Donald trump said on sixty minutes Frank Luntz now why bring this clip up from the family leadership summit?💣 BOOM. Down goes another lying attempt to safe A chronological liar.

What is the matter Steven, do you want to be like trump that bad?

Steve Williams Saturday, June 11th 2016 at 7:24PM

Isn't this what you posted at the head of this blog?

Donald Trump: 'I'm Not Sure If I Ever Asked God's Forgiveness' Donald Trump: 'I'm Not Sure If I Ever Asked God's Forgiveness'

Donald Trump says he's not sure if he's asked God for forgiveness, at the Family Leadership Summit in Ames, Iowa on Saturday, which led some to question the sincerity of his alleged Christian faith.

Moderator Frank Luntz asked Trump on Saturday if he had ever sought God's forgiveness and Trump replied, "I'm not sure I have ever asked God's forgiveness. I don't bring God into that picture."

Trump clarified further about forgiveness in the church setting saying, "When I go to church and when I drink my little wine and have my little cracker, I guess that is a form of forgiveness. I do that as often as I can because I feel cleansed. I say let's go on and let's make it right," declared Trump.

Steve Williams Saturday, June 11th 2016 at 7:29PM

And Ron, do you really believe Donald has never said the Lord's Prayer?

Steve Williams Saturday, June 11th 2016 at 7:36PM

Trump's answer to Luntz starts at minute 1:19. Watch it again THEN let's talk about who is the liar Ron.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, June 11th 2016 at 7:46PM

That is right Steve, see how trump
Belittles taking communion. My little WINE and my little cracker, like doing that in the name of the Lord is it is beneath him.

Now back to that switch in the film clips, you knew damn well what I said to you about the Sixty minutes clip that I quoted from, now you want to make a quick change to the family leadership summit clip, hoping that I would not notice the switch.

WOW!!! How stupid...

Steve Williams Saturday, June 11th 2016 at 8:25PM

Where did you hide the Six Minutes link Ron?



First Presbyterian Church 89-60 164th Street Jamaica (Queens), N.Y. 11432 Click on this link Steven.
http://www.firstchurchjamaica.org/ The first think that I noticed was the address of this church, this church is in QUEENS. Now what I won't you to do is click on that link where trump told Six Minutes that he attend First Presbyterian Church in Queens.

Steve Williams Saturday, June 11th 2016 at 10:16PM

Back to the Lord's Prayer. If Donald or anyone says the Lord's Prayer, they have asked God for forgiveness.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, June 11th 2016 at 10:52PM

Where did you see Donald trump praying The Lords Pray?


Steve Williams Sunday, June 12th 2016 at 3:51AM

America is a Christian nation Ron. Christians, nominal and otherwise, say the Lord's Prayer.

Steve Williams Sunday, June 12th 2016 at 4:03AM

And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, June 12th 2016 at 5:57AM

You are correct, America is a Christian nation Steven but there is no accounting from Donald Trump saying that he say's the Lords Prayer or he asked for forgiveness. Sorry!!!

Steve Williams Sunday, June 12th 2016 at 6:54AM

I never heard you say the Lord's Prayer, but I know you have Ron.

Steve Williams Sunday, June 12th 2016 at 7:00AM

I've heard Obama say, that the bible says, that people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. It's expected that any American president or presidential candidate should be Christian. Nothing new about that.

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