Trump Towers Made Of Cheap Chinese Steel

Now how can Trump tell me, that he will bring jobs back to the United States when he buys that cheap Steel from communist China to save him money, when he could have bought Steel right here in The U.S.A. to give Americans the JOBS!!!

Now all you Trump supporters, tell me why you support a man for president of The U.S.A. who does business with the COMMUNIST?

So what do you know about Chinese steel?

You can start by answering this first question after watching this video: "Now all you Trump supporters, tell me why you support a man for president of The U.S.A. who does business with the COMMUNIST?"

You don't know a thing about steel Ron, not Chinese nor American.

The Steel industry in China has developed over several decades into the world biggest.[1] China accounted for over 50% of world steel production in 2013.[1] It has been driven by rapid modernisation of its economy, construction, infrastructure and manufacturing industries.[1]

So what are you saying Steven? That American Steel Mills can't do the job here in America?

Can't you see that this is a plan by the Chinese Communist Government was to devalue their currency to under cut the American Steel Mill Market, which will ultimately bankrupt that market, making the U.S. government depended on Communist steel, which will drive up the market and Donald J. Trump helped that to come to pass.

Donald Trump got what he wanted , which is a building with his name on it and the American Steel Mill worker jobs went over seas and our steel Mills grow cold, with no work insight. Donald trump don't give a damn about the middle class blue collar worker.

Why do you support a man like this?

Again Ron, you know nothing about the American steel industry, and I doubt you'll take the time to learn.

I can see the effects of the death of The American Steel Industry on the southeast side of Chicago and around the southeast section of Lake Michigan up close and personal.

Steven, I still have family in GARY Indiana. I know for a FACT, THAT GARY was a booming Steel mill town in the 60's, 70's, and the early part of the 80's before the death of this Industry in this part of the country.

Don't get out of place Steven, to tell me what I know because this death of the Steel Mills hear in this section of the country effected my life.

Did you see this video?

Guess what Ron, I grew up in a Pennsylvania steel town, Phoenixville. Where my middle son was born, Bethlehem, was a steel town and where I live now was a steel town.

A Nation of Steel: The Making of Modern America, 1865-1925 (Johns Hopkins Studies in the History of Technology)
https://www.amazon.com/Nation-Steel-Americ...

Lukens Steel is still here but it's not owned by Americans anymore.

Then you should know exactly what I am talking about.

Trump decides to use steel from COMMUNIST CHINA instead of using American made steel, putting American's to work, so that money would have stayed right here in America to make America Strong.

This man is helping CHINA to bankrupt the American Steel industry and take over that market, can't you see that?

Then you should know exactly what I am talking about.

Trump decides to use steel from COMMUNIST CHINA instead of using American made steel, putting American's to work, so that money would have stayed right here in America to make America Strong.

This man is helping CHINA to bankrupt the American Steel industry and take over that market, can't you see that?

I agree 100% with this statement.

From the age of railroads through the building of the first battleships, from the first skyscrapers to the dawning of the age of the automobile, steelmakers proved central to American industry, building, and transportation. In A Nation of Steel Thomas Misa explores the complex interactions between steelmaking and the rise of the industries that have characterized modern America. A Nation of Steel offers a detailed and fascinating look at an industry that has had a profound impact on American life.

Now here comes TRUMP. I have asked you a few times why you support this man but I can see why you don't answer.

It's a global economy Ron. Trump will make it better for America.

Bethlehem Steel eventually bought Lukens in 1997 for $400 million in cash and stock.[9]

In 2003, International Steel Group Inc (ISG) bought Bethlehem for $1.5 billion.[10] The following year ISG was bought out by Mittal Steel for $4.5 billion.[11] In 2006 Mittal Steel and Arcelor merged to make a steel company three times the size of any other steel company for $33.6 billion.[12] From 2006 until the present the name has remained the same.

can't you see that means nothing to Trump because he choose not to do Business with no parts of the American Steel Industry, can't you see that?

Founded in 2004, Ossen Innovation Co., Ltd. is one of the leading designer, engineer, manufacturer and marketer of customized prestressed concrete (“PC”) steel materials used in the construction of bridges, highways, and other infrastructure projects in China, Europe, Latin America, Asia Pacific and the U.S. Our founders are among the first in China to introduce and promote the use of prestressed steel materials in construction projects, and have more than 15 years of experience in the prestressed materials industry.

We manufacture prestressed steel materials which are categorized as uncoated products and coated products through our two operating subsidiaries in China: Ossen Innovation Materials in Ma’anshan city and Ossen Jiujiang in Jiujiang city. We are one of four manufacturers of coated steel materials in China, equipped with proprietary processing processes. We have total manufacturing capacity of 140,000 metric tons coated and uncoated materials per annum at December 31, 2010.

Through Ma’anshan facility, we have been manufacturing plain surface PC strands and PC wires since 2004. These products are sold primarily in Anhui Province, Jiangsu Province, Zhejiang Province and Shanghai City.

Through Jiujiang facility, we manufacture coated PC wires and strands, plain surface PC strands, unbonded PC strands, spiral ribbed PC wires, sleeper PC wires and indented PC wires. These products are primarily sold in Jiangxi Province, Wuhan City, Hunan Province, Fujian Province and Sichuan Province.

http://www.osseninnovation.com/about/index...

Do you ever drill down in your Newsweek articles Ron?

Prestressed concrete is a concrete construction material which is placed under compression prior to it supporting any applied loads (i.e. it is "pre" stressed).[1][2]:3–5 A more technical definition is "Structural concrete in which internal stresses have been introduced to reduce potential tensile stresses in the concrete resulting from loads." [3] This compression is produced by the tensioning of high-strength "tendons" located within or adjacent to the concrete volume, and is done to improve the performance of the concrete in service.[4] Tendons may consist of single wires, multi-wire strands or threaded bars, and are most commonly made from high-tensile steels, carbon fibre or aramid fibre.[1]:52–59 The essence of prestressed concrete is that once the initial compression has been applied, the resulting material has the characteristics of high-strength concrete when subject to any subsequent compression forces, and of ductile high-strength steel when subject to tension forces. This can result in improved structural capacity and/or serviceability compared to conventionally reinforced concrete in many situations.[2]:6[5]
Prestressed concrete is used in a wide range of building and civil structures where its improved concrete performance can allow longer spans, reduced structural thicknesses, and material savings to be realised compared to reinforced concrete. Typical applications range through high-rise buildings, residential slabs, foundation systems, bridge and dam structures, silos and tanks, industrial pavements and nuclear containment structures.[6]

Timber!

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can't you see that means nothing to Trump because he choose not to do Business with no parts of the American Steel Industry, can't you see that?

That's not what Newsweek told you Ron.

Do you now support a man running for President, after knowing that Trump did business with COMMUNIST CHINA instead of using American companies that make steel, putting Chinese to work instead of American's to build projects in The U.S., After knowing this information do you still support TRUMP?

First do your homework Ron, then let's talk.

https://www.usitc.gov/publications/701_731...

http://www.tutorperinibuilding.com/service...

PC  strand  consists  of  multiple  steel  wires  wound  together  to  produce  a  strong,  flexible product  that  is  used  to  strengthen  concrete  structures.   It  is  commonly  available  in  three grades,  in  covered  and  uncovered  form,  and  in  several  nominal  diameters.   The  most  common PC  strand  configuration  consists  of  six  wires  wound  helically  around  a  single  wire  core.   Nominal diameters  of  PC  strand  typically  range  from  0.25  to  0.70  inch,  while  the  three  common  grade designations  (250,  270,  and  300)  correspond  to  the  minimum  ultimate  strength  of  the  product in thousands of pounds per square inch.10 

Prestressed Concrete Steel Wire Strand from China are a side issue here STEVEN, I asked you a question:

Do you now support a man running for President, after knowing that Trump did business with COMMUNIST CHINA instead of using American companies that make steel, putting Chinese to work instead of American's to build projects in The U.S., After knowing this information do you still support TRUMP?

Are you saying Ron, that prestressed concrete steel wire strand from China was not used in Trump International Hotel Las Vegas?

No!!!! Not at all.

So how did Tutor Perini Building make their decision?

"A Newsweek investigation has found that in at least two of Trump’s last three construction projects, Trump opted to purchase his steel and aluminum from Communist Chinese manufacturers rather than United States corporations based in states like Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan and Wisconsin."

Do you now support a man running for President of The United States of America, after knowing that Trump did business with COMMUNIST CHINA instead of using American companies that make steel, putting Chinese to work instead of American's to build projects in The U.S., After knowing this information do you still support TRUMP?

What United States corporations based in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, and Wisconsin?

Do you now support a man running for President of The United States of America, after knowing that Trump did business with COMMUNIST CHINA instead of using American companies that make steel, putting Chinese to work instead of American's to build projects in The U.S., After knowing this information do you still support TRUMP?

I DON'T know that Trump did business with Communist China.

Open your eyes Steven.

I sure you saw last nights debate when that subject came up. Here, take a look: http://www.newsweek.com/how-donald-trump-d...


Here is another example: I quote: During the time of the Trump Chicago construction, according to documents filed with the United States Court of International Trade by the Department of Justice and the Department of Commerce, Permasteelisa was dumping aluminum used in curtain walls, meaning it was using predatory pricing to sell the products below the cost of production or the amount charged in China.

Open your eyes man!

We're not finished with Trump International Hotel Las Vegas. Trump did business with Tutor Perini Building, NOT Communist China. Stop lying Ron.

Tutor Perini Building Corp is a wholly owned subsidiary of Tutor Perini Corporation (NYSE: TPC). We are strategically located throughout the United States in New York, NY; Philadelphia, PA; Henderson, NV, Phoenix, AZ and recently opened in Ft. Lauderdale, FL. The addition of this South Florida location allows us to better serve our southeast clients. As part of the Tutor Perini Building Group, we are consistently ranked by Engineering News-Record among the top builders in the country.

Our affiliated building companies include:

Roy Anderson Corp
Rudolph and Sletten
We have the capacity to self-perform much of our work, often partnering with qualified local subcontractors and Tutor Perini’s Specialty Contractor Group - experts in mechanical, electrical, HVAC, and plumbing disciplines, and Civil Group – experts in site development, excavation, and specialized foundations.

We believe our success results from our proven philosophy, “Building Relationships on Trust,” and our ability to manage large, complex projects with aggressive fast-track schedules, elaborate designs, and advanced systems while providing accurate budgeting and strict quality control.

That whole blog is based on News Week article dated 10/3/16 How Donald Trump Ditched U.S. Steel Workers in Favor of China By Kurt Eichenwald.

Plenty of blue-collar workers believe that, as president, Donald Trump would be ready to fight off U.S. trade adversaries and reinvigorate the country’s manufacturing industries through his commitment to the Rust Belt. What they likely don’t know is that which includes you to Steven, that Trump has been stiffing American steel workers on his TRUMP'S) own construction projects for many years, choosing to deprive untold millions of dollars from four key electoral swing states and instead directing it to Communist China—the country whose trade practices have helped decimate the once-powerful industrial center of the United States and made the middle class blue collar worker great and strong in the 50's 60's 70's and 80's.

Focus your attention on this News Week article http://www.newsweek.com/how-donald-trump-d... as we explore Donald Trump investigations of his business ties with COMMUNIST CHINA.

If you want to look into a company, look at Trump's tides with Permasteelisa Corp. https://www.bing.com/search?q=permasteelis...

Ron, as long as you continue to read rags like Newsweek, and listen to soundbiters like Lawrence O, there is no hope for you.

According to government documents, the Chinese entity chosen by Trump to provide steel for the Las Vegas property is a holding company called Ossen Innovation Co. Ltd.–formerly known as Ultra Glory International Ltd.

Are you including goverment documents too?

Donald Trump is the developer and owner of Trump International Hotel Las Vegas. The general contractor was Tutor Perini Building. The contractor chose the materials, based on many factors, none of which is disclosed in the government filings.

According to government documents, the Chinese entity chosen by Trump to provide steel for the Las Vegas property is a holding company called Ossen Innovation Co. Ltd.–formerly known as Ultra Glory International Ltd. That British Virgin Islands entity in turn owns a second holding company called Ossen Innovation Materials Group Ltd., which, through a complex legal arrangement, indirectly owns Ossen Innovation Materials Co. Ltd., and through it, Ossen (Jiujiang) Steel Wire & Cable Co. Ltd., the operating business located in Shanghai. With such layers upon layers of corporate shells and divisions, builders like Trump can purchase their steel from less-expensive Chinese suppliers without the ultimate supplier being readily apparent. That steel was then used in the construction of the Las Vegas property.

The general contractor is a manager, and possibly a tradesman, employed by the client on the advice of the architect, engineer or the architectural technologist or the client him/herself if acting as the manager. A general contractor is responsible for the overall coordination of a project.[3] A general contractor must first assess the project-specific documents (referred to as bid, proposal or tender documents). In the case of renovations, a site visit is required to get a better understanding of the project. Depending on the project delivery method, the contractor will submit a fixed price proposal or bid, cost plus price or an estimate. The general contractor considers the cost of home office overhead, general conditions, materials and equipment as well as the cost of labor to provide the owner with a price for the project.

Contract documents include drawings, project manual (including general, supplementary and/or special conditions and specifications), addendum or modifications issued prior to proposal/ bidding and prepared by a design professional such as an architect. The general contractor may be the construction manager or construction manager at high risk.

Responsibilities Edit

A general contractor is responsible for providing all of the material, labor, equipment (such as engineering vehicles and tools) and services necessary for the construction of the project. The general contractor hires specialized subcontractors to perform all or portions of the construction work.

Responsibilities may include applying for building permits, advising the person they are hired by, securing the property, providing temporary utilities on site, managing personnel on site, providing site surveying and engineering, disposing or recycling of construction waste, monitoring schedules and cash flows, and maintaining accurate records.[4]

That is great information of the job of a general contractor and none of what you have brought forth refutes my finding according to News Weeks that this investigation is flawed and does not untie the hands of Donald Trump from buying cheaper STEEL from the communist Chinese when over looking the American Steel industry here in The United States.

You have produce no evidence to refute those damning claims of Trump kicking the American Steel Mill worker in the backside, to buy steel from the communist to build projects here in the U.S.

I am talking about information from government documents, what is the matter Steven, you don't believe your government over the COMMUNIST?

Newsweek showed us NO government documents. Newsweek has shown us NOTHING of the decision making process Tutor Perini Building used to decide on using PC steel from Ossen Innovations rather than Insteel. Newsweek has shown us NOTHING of Trump's bid requirements or review of materials chosen by Tutor Perini.

That is right STEVEN News Week don't mention Tutor Perini at all in there investigative report, Tutor Perini is not a part of my conversational point in this blog at all.

What News Week has highlighted was that government report which is the bases of this conversation. in The News Week report I do see a company that in mentioned that Trump is involved with and that company is called Ossen Innovation Co. Ltd, formerly known as Ultra Glory International Ltd. That British Virgin Islands entity in turn owns a second holding company called Ossen Innovation Materials Group Ltd., which, through a complex legal arrangement, indirectly owns Ossen Innovation Materials Co. Ltd., and through it, Ossen (Jiujiang) Steel Wire & Cable Co. Ltd., the operating business located in Shanghai.

With such layers upon layers of corporate shells and divisions, builders like Trump can purchase their steel from less-expensive Chinese suppliers without the ultimate supplier being readily apparent. That steel was then used in the construction of the Las Vegas property.

This Steven is how Trump is involved and nothing that you have brought to the floor has refuted this report yet.

You don't answer direct questions to why you support Trump after this information is now known to you that he (TRUMP) has done business with COMMUNIST GOVERMENT STEEL MILLS over our very own steel mills in this country to build complete building projects, here in the U.S., WHY IS THIS?

CAN YOU SAY COMMUNIST GOVERMENT STEEL MILLS?

I support Trump because he gets the job done. If that means using PC steel wire strand produced in China, I think that's fine. Do you know anything about the five American producers referenced in the GOVERNMENT link I gave you Ron? Did you even bother to read who they are?

Read: Conditions  of  Competition  and  the  Business  Cycle, starting on page 8.

Demand Conditions.  In  the  original  investigations,  the  Commission  found  that  the demand  for  PC  strand  was  derived  from  demand  for  prestressed  concrete,  which  in  turn  was tied  to  the  demand  for  construction  projects,  particularly  infrastructure  projects,  commercial and  institutional  construction,  large  housing  projects,  and  single  family  housing.32   It  found  that apparent  U.S.  consumption  of  PC  strand  declined  by  48.1  percent  during  the  original  period  of investigation  (“POI”),  which  encompassed  calendar  years  2007  through  2009.   Most  of  the decline  occurred  from  2008  to  2009,  coincident  with  an  economic  downturn.33   Demand  for  the product  was  seasonal,  due  to  the  concentration  of  construction  in  summer  months.34  During  the  POI,  most  of  the  subject  imports  were  sold  for  post‐tension  applications, while the domestic product was sold mostly for pre‐tension applications.35

Supply  Conditions.   In  the  original  investigations,  the  Commission  found  that  the domestic  industry  was  the  largest  source  of  supply  in  the  U.S.  market,  accounting  for  more  than half  of  apparent  U.S.  consumption  during  the  POI.   In  the  original  investigations,  there  were  six U.S.  producers  of  PC  strand:   American  Spring  Wire  Corp.;  EMC;  Insteel;  Rettco  Steel,  LLC (“Rettco”);  Strand‐Tech  Martin;  and  Sumiden.40 

YOUR WORDS: If that means using PC steel wire strand produced in China, I think that's fine.

Then you have supported THE COMMUNIST GOVERMENT, over the American worker which contradicts your libertarian doctrine and you are just flapping in the wind, why STEVEN? Don't you believe in the American worker and The American Dream?

"I think that's fine," Then how is that making America Great Again when you follow a man who just don't care about the middle class and the American blue collar worker?

"I think that's fine," Then why in the world you want to help the COMMUNIST PARTY under cut one of America's Strongest industries, that produce American JOBS, that help propels the American economy, is putting food on tables of millions in other related job descriptions.

I wholeheartedly disagree with your whole statement of: "I support Trump because he gets the job done. If that means using PC steel wire strand produced in China, I think that's fine.

Here's why Steven, I don't think that is fine at all and I am proud to make a stand as a retiree of 36 years in the Transportation Industry, who have been blessed by The Most High to have worked and maintained a job, got paid a livable wage, to contribute to my church and community, to raise my family, to put my children through college, buy my house, to pay my taxes and now I am living the American Dream in a free country, and now you want to take all that away from the Americans that are coming after The Baby-Boomers by supporting a man like Trump!!!

That is not fine with me! In less then 30 days I hope the American people put an end to the Trump madness of: I support Trump because he gets the job done. "If that means using PC steel wire strand produced in China, I think that's fine."

Putting American workers out of work, will never be fine with me because I know, Together We Our Stronger , and America can get the job done for Americans and the hell with the COMMUNIST PARTY THAT DONALD TRUMP HAVE DONE BUSINESS WITH OVER MANY YEARS...

I think that's fine, it is not fine with me.

I also see your memory is short. do you remember my brief acknowledgment of making note of "Prestressed Concrete Steel Wire Strand from China?"

In 28 days it will be it is what it is. I checked my registration to be absolutely sure. No early voting for me though, Nov.8 is the date we've all been waiting for.

I see that you have not commented on a man that supporting A COMMUNIST Industry over a American Industry? That's fine with you.

I agree with Trump, trade is good but we need to have smart trade deals. Nothing about using steel from China in his building is inconsistent with his goal of making America competitive again.

This is the reason why Trump's campaign is imploding on it's self, as we speak, because Trump and his campaign knows it, that is the reason why Donald Trump has declared war on the GOP, The Republican Party knows it, FOX NEWS knows it too.

Trump's campaign is not imploding, but there are many in America that mistake media such as Newsweek as journalism. I notice you had nothing to say about "most  of  the  subject  imports  were  sold  for  post‐tension  applications, while the domestic product was sold mostly for pre‐tension applications." Did Newsweek tell you if Trump International Hotel Las Vegas was a post-tension application? They did not.

Trump this and Trump that. Is this subject too tough for yo Ron?

No STEVEN, you are right, I have not mentioned any thing about the post‐tension  applications of COMMUNIST CHINESE STEEL, staying on topic is really one of my better points.

Steven, what I have focused my attention on was how Donald Trump and his followers are helping him to make the demise of the American made steel industry, the demise of American jobs to send those jobs overseas to a COMMUNIST COUNTRY and the weakening of the American economy come to pass.

That is what I have been talking about and you have been running with Donald's support of undermining American made steel, the American worker, and the American economy, to support THE COMMUNIST PARTY STEEL INDUSTRY since you came to this blog and you said: "That this is find with you."

I have put my LIFE on the line for you to have the freedom to say such nonsense and I whole heartily disagree with that man and YOU as a follower of his in his support of the COMMUNIST GOVERMENT.

It was a post-tensioned application Ron. Did you see the part where Insteel is an importer of Chinese PC strand?

The  original  investigations  resulted  from  petitions  filed  on  May  27,  2009  with  Commerce and  the  Commission  by  counsel  on  behalf  of  American  Spring  Wire  Corp.  (“American”);  Insteel Wire  Products  Co.(“Insteel”);  and  Sumiden  Wire  Products  Corp.(“Sumiden”).

In  the  original  investigations,  Insteel  imported  PC  strand  from  China  but  the  Commission found  that  appropriate  circumstances  did  not  exist  to  exclude  Insteel  from  the  domestic industry.36 

Guess what? Sumiden is not an American company neither. But you go whistling along with your young turks media.

So my guess is the floors of Trump International Hotel Las Vegas are where the uncoated PC strand from China was used. What about the walls Ron? What steel was used in them?

One common feature of skyscrapers is having a steel framework that supports curtain walls. These curtain walls either bear on the framework below or are suspended from the framework above, rather than load-bearing walls of conventional construction. Some early skyscrapers have a steel frame that enables the construction of load-bearing walls taller than of those made of reinforced concrete. Modern skyscrapers' walls are not load-bearing and most skyscrapers are characterized by large surface areas of windows made possible by the concept of steel frame and curtain walls. However, skyscrapers can have curtain walls that mimic conventional walls and a small surface area of windows. Modern skyscrapers often have a tubular structure, and are designed to act like a hollow cylinder to resist lateral loads (wind, seismic, etc.). To appear more slender, allow less wind exposure, and in order to transmit more daylight to the ground, many skyscrapers have a design with setbacks; sometimes they are also structurally required.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyscraper

High Rise Concrete Construction

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8VNJD9nUreA

Steven, you know exactly what I am talking about. The FACT that Donald would use COMMUNIST CHINESE STEEL to build projects in The United States, to thumb his noses at the American steel mill worker and the American Economy and now your comment that, "This is fine with you."

The construction of load-bearing walls are distractions of the main issue here and you have been playing that act of a TROLL for a little while now. Steven, if you want to talk about construction of load-bearing walls in Trump's projects built in the United States with steel from COMMUNIST CHINA, Start you a blog.

You have yet to prove this statement Ron.


can't you see that means nothing to Trump because he choose not to do Business with no parts of the American Steel Industry, can't you see that?


Saturday, October 8th 2016 at 12:47PM
Deacon Ron Gray

...choose not to do business with no parts of the American steel industry...

Are these your words Ron?

That is right!!! American's don't work for the COMMUNIST CHINESE GOVERMENT STEEL INDUSTRIES. I also asked you a question Steven, which you failed to answer.

Can't you see that means nothing to Trump because he choose not to do Business with no parts of the American Steel Industry, can't you see that?

Trump does business with most parts of the American steel business. But don't expect Newsweek or the Young Turks to tell you so.

That cap "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN" made in China.

Trump ties made in china.

Trump-branded clothes, made in China

Trumps accessories and other products are made in China.

Trump buys thousands of television sets for his hotels and they are made in China.

Trump buys uniforms for his workers and that too is made in China.

Trump himself will tell you this damn LIE, that he can't find American made goods.

Please Steven, the proof of that statement is out there.

“It’s a good question. I say I can’t get bids from American companies because China manipulates their currency and they can’t compete with Chinese companies…I said, ‘Does anybody make television in the United States?’ You know what the answer was. We can’t find anybody. They’re all from China, from Japan, from South Korea,” Donald J. Trump, according to ABC NEWS.

Do Trump support his American Labor unions? NO! No Surprise: Trump Is a Union Buster at His Own Hotel Amid the buffoonery of Donald Trump’s campaign, workers at his Vegas hotel are demanding justice. https://www.thenation.com/article/no-surpr...

Do you really want that man for President of this country, when he can't do the right thing for his union workers?

You know as much about ties as you know about steel.

Do you refute this comment of Trump's: “It’s a good question. I say I can’t get bids from American companies because China manipulates their currency and they can’t compete with Chinese companies…I said, ‘Does anybody make television in the United States?’ You know what the answer was. We can’t find anybody. They’re all from China, from Japan, from South Korea,” Donald J. Trump, according to ABC NEWS.

Are you refuting Trump said these words?

The structural system of a high-rise building is designed to cope with the vertical gravity loads and lateral loads caused by wind or seismic activity. The structural system consists only of the members designed to carry the loads, all other members are referred to as non-structural.

A classification for the structural system of a high-rise was introduced in 1969 by Fazlur Khan and was extended to incorporate interior and exterior structures. The primary lateral load-resisting system defines if a structural system is an interior or exterior one.[2] The following interior structures are possible:

Hinged frame
Rigid frame
Braced frame and Shear-walled frame
Outrigger structures
The following exterior structures are possible:

Tube
Diagrid
Space Truss
Exoskeleton
Superframe

The global structural steel market share is highly fragmented with many primary and secondary producers present across the value chain. Primary manufacturers have their access to their mines for raw materials such as iron ore and coking coal and are less dependent on third party supply which is not the case with the secondary producers.

Major industry participants operating in this market includes Arcelor Mittal, Nippon Steel & Sumitomo Metal Corporation, Tata Steel Group, Baosteel Group, POSCO and Hyundai Steel.

Other prominent manufactures include ThyssenKrupp, Ansteel Group, Baogang Group, Bohai Steel Group Co., Ltd, Benxi Steel, Evraz Group, Gerdau, Hebei Steel Group, JSW Steel Ltd, Anyang Iron & Steel Co. Ltd., United States Steel Corporation, Valin Group, Wuhan Iron and Steel (Group) Corp.

http://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-...

I see that you have avoided the hold question all together, to talk about The structural system of a high-rise building. Not once has Trump talked about how to build any of his building projects using COMMUNIST CHINESE STEEL.

Let us try this again, Do you refute this comment of Trump's: “It’s a good question. I say I can’t get bids from American companies because China manipulates their currency and they can’t compete with Chinese companies…I said, ‘Does anybody make television in the United States?’ You know what the answer was. We can’t find anybody. They’re all from China, from Japan, from South Korea,” Donald J. Trump, according to ABC NEWS.

Are you refuting Trump said these words?

Market Size and Growth

Structural steel is the leading structural framing material in the United States, with a 55% market share through the 3rd quarter of 2008 for non-residential and multi-story (greater than 4 story) residential construction. The market share for the closest competing material, concrete, is only 21% indicating a market preference exceeding 2 to 1 for structural steel.

Non-residential and multi-story residential construction accounts for 65% of the structural steel demand in the United States. In 2007 these two markets represented a total of 1.7 billion square feet of construction, the fourth highest total in U.S. history. Following peaks of 1.893 billion square feet in 1999 and 1.941 billion square feet in 2000, the market declined to a trough of 1.526 billion square feet in 2003. 2008 3rd quarter results point to a significant decline in the non-residential and multi-story residential market. This decline may be in the order of 14% for the entire year of 2008.

Construction expenditures in the non-residential and multi-story residential building market will be down in 2009. Predictions vary on the amount of these decreases from 6% based on construction put-in-place to 14% based on construction starts. The most likely scenario is that construction starts will decrease by 11% on a square footage basis. 2010 activity will be flat for construction put-in-place to slightly rising (1% to 2%) for construction starts. Longer term trends see a 6% increase in market size in 2011 and a 7% increase in 2012.

https://www.aisc.org/content.aspx?id=3800

I'm not talking about the TVs in Trump International Hotel Las Vegas, I'm talking about the structural steel. Since Newsweek skipped over that part.

The United States structural steel industry supplied fabricated and erected structural steel framing for over 8,000 buildings and bridges through a network of producers, service centers, steel fabricators and erectors in 2011 down substantially from a peak of nearly 20,000 in 2006 and 2007. The decrease in market volume was solely the result of a downturn in overall construction activity as the market share of structural steel increased from 53% to 58% during this same period. Total industry employment in 2011 was estimated to be in excess of 150,000 individuals in 2,300 firms down approximately 27% from 2006. Total industry revenue in 2011 was estimated to be in excess of 10 billion dollars. It is anticipated that industry employment and revenue will expand marginally during 2012. Structural Steel Supply Chain The four distinct components of the structural steel industry are: Producers of structural steel products, including hot-rolled structural products (wide-flange shapes, plate, channels and angles) and manufacturers of hollow structural sections (formerly known as tubular steel). Service Centers, which function as warehouses and provide limited preprocessing of structural material prior to fabrication. Structural Steel Fabricators, which physically prepare the structural steel for a building or a bridge through a process of developing detailed drawings (the work of a detailer) based upon the construction drawings provided by a structural engineer; material management; cutting; drilling; shop fitting (bolting and welding); painting or galvanizing (when required); and shipping. Erectors, which assemble the structural steel members into a structural frame on the project site by bolting and field welding structural steel components together according to the construction documents. Each of these four categories is discussed in greater detail below.

https://www.aisc.org/uploadedFiles/SteelDa...

I'm not talking about the TVs in Trump International Hotel Las Vegas, I'm talking about the structural steel. Since Newsweek skipped over that part.

Sorry, that is NOT the conversation HERE!!!

STOP BEING A TROLL...

Look at your blog title Ron. YOU are the troll.

What do you think it says? How to construct a building?

It says Trump towers made of cheep Chinese steel. But Newsweek does not mention a thing about steel, only reinforced concrete.

When people see that title, they natural think structural steel not reinforced concrete. Get it Ron?

That is corrected Steven, good job. If by chance you think about you natural think structural steel not reinforced concrete, don't you think that that American made steel, made by American steel mill workers could have been used or do you think that CHEAP COMMUNIST CHINESE STEEL is better?

Trump International Hotel Las Vegas is built of reinforced concrete, not structural steel.

http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/image...

The Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas, Nev., Made of CHEAP COMMUNIST CHINESE STEEL.

Trump Towers CHICAGO Made of CHEAP COMMUNIST CHINESE STEEL

Proof" Donald Trump’s Use of Foreign Steel Undercuts a Major Campaign Theme
Candidate calls for boosting U.S. steel industry but his buildings are often built with cheaper imports http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trumps-...

Report: Donald Trump using cheap Chinese steel in construction projects – News With Ed
October 6, 2016 http://trofire.com/2016/10/06/report-donal...

ANOTHER OPINION: Trump’s Chinese Steel: http://www.phillyrecord.com/2016/10/anothe...

OH!!! be the way, I acknowledges that you was correct and I also asked you a question and that question is:

That is corrected Steven, good job. "If by chance you think about you natural think structural steel not reinforced concrete, don't you think that that American made steel, made by American steel mill workers could have been used or do you think that CHEAP COMMUNIST CHINESE STEEL is better?"

There is no indication Chinese steel is cheap Ron. You sound like a racist bigot. Trump International Hotel iLas Vegas is not made of steel, cheap, Chinese, American or otherwise. It's made of 24 karat gold plated concrete, and made in the U.S.A.

What I love about your blogs Ron, they are such great learning opportunities.

http://www.pci.org/uploadedFiles/Siteroot/...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearst_Tow...

"24 karat gold plated concrete????" I know that you have lost your mind now STEVEN "24 karat gold plated concrete????" (LOL)

can you proof that there is such a thing as "24 karat gold plated concrete????" WOW!!! (LOL)

"24 karat gold plated concrete????" I know that you have lost your mind now STEVEN "24 karat gold plated concrete????" (LOL)

can you proof that there is such a thing as "24 karat gold plated concrete????" WOW!!! (LOL)

If not, can you say "CHEAP COMMUNIST CHINESE STEEL.?" WOW!!!

Sure Ron, there's the concrete and there's the gold plate. And yes, it's 24 karat, look it up.

http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/image...

It's a magnificent structure, nothing like Mrs. Bill Clinton has ever done.

NO!!! a link of a building under construction is not proof of your foolish statement of "24 karat gold plated concrete????"

Do you want to try again to proof your claim that "24 karat gold plated concrete????" ever exists?

If not, can you say "CHEAP COMMUNIST CHINESE STEEL.?" WOW!!!

The exterior windows are gilded with 24-karat gold.[1]

BULL💩, You have lost it and you are looking real foolish now. Where do you see The exterior windows are gilded with 24-karat gold, in your statement of "24 karat gold plated concrete????" ever exists?

Can you say: "CHEAP COMMUNIST CHINESE STEEL.?" WOW!!!

Look at the picture at the top of your blog. Gold plated and underneath, concrete.

Trump's got style. Hiilary's got nothing to compare.

A mini me baby blue jetliner. Wow.

NOPE, I can't go for that!!!

Can you say: "CHEAP COMMUNIST CHINESE STEEL.?" WOW!!!

What I can say is "cheap American communist reporting."

So, you are saying that Trump did no wrong in buying CHEAP STEEL FROM COMMUNIST CHINA for his building projects here in The United States?

What I'm saying is Newsweek should have reported on ALL the steel Trump used, and given the percentage that was Chinese. Then they should have reported why the Chinese steel was chosen, which could have been availability and other factors besides cost. Then they should have put in context of the market conditions at the time, and asked the question whether it was known at the time if the Chinese were dumping steel in the U.S. market. I've shown you many sources of information Newsweek could have used but didn't, and if I were a reporter on assignment in Las Vegas I could find out much more from government records. Instead we have the simplistic title of your blog which is nothing but a dog whistle as you like to say.

Trump International Hotel & Tower® Chicago is a showcase of bold style and engaging design, polished stainless steel and iridescent-tinted glass. It is the tallest reinforced concrete building in the world, and downtown Chicago's most enviable address.

Did Newsweek tell you anything about the polished stainless steel? They did not.

Such any CHEAP STEEL FROM COMMUNIST CHINA be used to build buildings in the United States by man who claims that he and he alone will bring jobs back to America, when his history SHOUTS OUT DIFFERENT?

Is this a case of do as I say do, not as I do?

Could these projects been done using American made steel, putting Americans Steel mills to work?

The design of the building incorporates three setback features designed to provide visual continuity with the surrounding skyline,[11] each reflecting the height of a nearby building. The first setback, on the east side of the building, aligns with the cornice line of the Wrigley Building to the east; the second, on the west side, aligns with River Plaza to the north and with the Marina City Towers to the west. The third setback, on the east side, relates to 330 North Wabash building (formerly known as IBM Plaza).[12] However, some views distort the alignment of the second setback.a[›] The setbacks and rounded edges of the building combat vortex formation.[13] The body of the building is raised 30 feet (9.1 m) above the main Wabash entrance and 70 feet (21 m) above the Chicago River.[14] The building's Permasteelisa curtain wall[15] uses clear low-emissivity coated glass and a curved wing-shaped polished stainless-steel mullion system that projects 9 inches (23 cm) from the glass line. It incorporates a brushed stainless steel spandrel panels and clear anodized aluminum.[12]

The topic of this blog is not about building design. Your last comment is mute here. If you want to talk about building, start you a blog STEVEN.

Should CHEAP STEEL FROM COMMUNIST CHINA be used to build buildings in the United States by man who claims that he and he alone will bring jobs back to America, when his history SHOUTS OUT DIFFERENT?

Is this a case of do as I say do, not as I do?

It is about building design. The architect specifies the materials.

And Newsweek had access to government filings which specified at least the structural elements. So Newsweek could have given a complete report but didn't, because all they wanted was the headline, and you were the willing dupe.

You can call me what you want because once that happens, I know for a FACT your argument is week and have no merit.

You are not denying the FACT that your boy used CHEAP STEEL FROM COMMUNIST CHINA in his American building projects. All you are doing is talking about the way your boy had used CHEAP STEEL FROM COMMUNIST CHINA.

Let me ask you this question: Did Donald J Trumps company's use CHEAP STEEL FROM COMMUNIST CHINA?

No Ron, Trump did not use cheap steel from anywhere.


The Company started its activity in 1973 with the name of ISA (Industria Serramenti in Alluminio). After the acquisition - dated 1986 - of the Australian company "Permasteel Industries Pty Ltd." – that manufactured the curtain wall of the Sydney Opera House – the Company name was changed to Permasteelisa. This acquisition gives the start to the international expansion, first into Singapore and Hong Kong markets, that to Japan, China, Thailand and Malaysia.

The European market expansion is driven from the Headquarters in Vittorio Veneto, Treviso, through the acquisition of the Dutch Scheldebouw B.V. in 1994, and the German Josef Gartner GmbH in 2001.

At the end of the 1990s, the Group starts it activity in the USA, first pushing the Interiors Fit-Out Business, than investing also on the Curtain Wall market.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permasteel...

Trump purchased the aluminum used in the Chicago project for what is called the “curtain wall”—the glass and metal exterior designed to save energy. The wall is made with 11,500 panels of thermal pane glass encased in aluminum. Each of the panels is 6 feet, 3 inches, meaning they used 207,000 feet of aluminum; the precise amount of tonnage could not be determined. However, assuming an admittedly light weight of a pound per foot, American companies lost out on more than $350 million in sales.

So Trump spent $847,000,000 to build this building:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Inte...

And you want me to believe that the value of the aluminum around the panes of glass was $350,000,000? Uh huh.

Average aluminum prices from 2003 to 2015 (in U.S. dollars per metric ton)*
This statistic shows the annual average price for aluminum in the period from 2003 to 2015. In 2007, the aluminum average price stood at 2,638 U.S. dollars. Within a decade, 2007 was a record high for aluminum prices.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/276643...

I come up with $250,000. That's a WHOPPER OF A LIE you told Ron.

Where where the "extruded aluminum members" made Ron? Did Newsweek tell you? They did not.

Curtain-wall systems are typically designed with extruded aluminum members, although the first curtain walls were made of steel.

In your reply, you make my point perfectly clear, you have highlighted that Trump did NOT DO BUSINESS WITH AN AMERICA COMPANY.

You have failed to answer my question

You are not denying the FACT that your boy used CHEAP STEEL FROM COMMUNIST CHINA in his American building projects. All you are doing is talking about the way your boy had used CHEAP STEEL FROM COMMUNIST CHINA.

Let me ask you this question: Did Donald J Trumps company's use CHEAP STEEL FROM COMMUNIST CHINA?

I said NO Ron. Trump did not use CHEAP steel from ANYWHERE.

The building's Permasteelisa curtain wall[15] uses clear low-emissivity coated glass and a curved wing-shaped polished stainless-steel mullion system that projects 9 inches (23 cm) from the glass line. It incorporates a brushed stainless steel spandrel panels and clear anodized aluminum.[12]

A stainless steel mullion system, and brushed stainless steel spandrel

ARE NOT CHEAP!!!

You are right there Ron, check it out.

Those guys should change their name to The Young Dorks.

What do you mean: "ARE NOT CHEAP!!!?"

This is not a complete sentence. ARE NOT CHEAP??? WTF is that?

What do you maen: "CHEAP steel from ANYWHERE?" WTF STEEL just don't pop up out of the blue. Listen, you are talking like someone who recently had a stroke in your thinking. I feel like I am talking to someone who is mentally challenged. I thought that I was talking to somebody That is rational in thought. Please forgive me, I did not know Steve after all this time.

I accidentally hit submit in the middle of my post. Stainless steel mullions and spandrels ARE NOT CHEAP!!! Get it Ron???

Don't be a young dork.

Now here comes the cover up commonly know as THE BULL💩.

You must have over looked these words of yours: What do you mean: "CHEAP steel from ANYWHERE?"

I took my time to point this out to you Steve by saying this to you and you still did not answer that question an I quote:

"STEEL just don't pop up out of the blue. Listen, you are talking like someone who recently had a stroke in your thinking. I feel like I am talking to someone who is mentally challenged. I thought that I was talking to somebody That is rational in thought. Please forgive me, I did not know Steve after all this time."

Now I will say this to get back on topic.

In the first few moments of the opening of the video, clearly points out that Donald Trump took advantage of the lower cost of COMMUNIST CHINESE STEEL, because of the COMMUNIST CHINESE GOVERNMENT manipulation of their currency which made their STEEL CHEAPER for Donald Trump to buy STEEL from the Chinese, then to do business with the American Steel Mill Industry.

Therefore, Donald Trump helped contribute to the slow demise of the American Steel Mill Industry in this country while heralding that he would bring back American jobs back home to America. This is the history of Donald Trump as he con’s the lowly educated that he says he loves.
This is what I mean by cheap steel from COMMUNIST CHINA, Steven I am referring to the lower cost and not the material. I can’t see why you can’t see that point unless you are a dope for or con man of Trump or you are mentally challenged.

If you are not mentally challenged, then your con man skills are not working here, at all.

That's correct Ron, Newsweek said "less-expensive", while your title says "cheap". I also pointed out that the leading U.S. supplier of PC strand, Insteel, imports this less-expensive PC strand from China. Guess what they do then? They mark it up and resell it to U.S. buyers. So if Trump doesn't buy this imported PC strand from Insteel then Newsweek calls this "stiffing" American workers. I don't buy it, nor did the extruded aluminum members in the curtain wall have a value of $350 MILLION.

I also pointed out that the leading U.S. supplier of PC strand, Insteel, imports this less-expensive PC strand from China. Guess what they do then?

What American base Steel company did Trump do business with for 2 out of 3 American projects of his?

That's what I want to know Ron. At the top of this picture you can see the steel reinforcement in place for the next columns to be poured. Where was that steel made?

http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/image...

The question was: "What American base Steel company did Trump do business with for 2 out of 3 American projects of his?"

There was none Steven!!! The companies that Trump did business was not based in The United States of America.

You have NO idea from whom he purchased the rebar for the columns. I can tell you for certain it wasn't Ossen Cable and Wire.

Here you go Ron, if you want to delve into Chinese rebar imports.

https://www.usitc.gov/publications/701_731...

All I've been hearing Donald Trump say Is, that doing business with the COMMUNIST Chinese steel mill Industry is it's good for business.

That man is not going to do a thing for the poor and middle classes in this country because that is not good for business.

How is it not good for business to employ people building skyscrapers?

Only when you can employer foreignera and pay them Close to minimum-wage is that good business sense, according to Donald Trump.
Steven his history is very clear on that point.

Construction workers building skyscrapers are far above minimum wage Ron.

From page 9:

In 2001, in a series of staggered investigations, the Commission determined that an industry in the United States was materially injured by reason of imports of rebar from Belarus, Indonesia, Korea, Latvia, Moldova, Poland, and Ukraine and that an industry in the United States was threatened with material injury by reason of imports of rebar from China.5 6 Following the Commission’s determinations, the Department of Commerce (“Commerce”) issued antidumping duty orders on imports from Belarus, China, Indonesia, Korea, Latvia, Moldova, Poland, and Ukraine. The Commission instituted these reviews of the outstanding orders on August 1, 2006.

From page 23:

Since imposition of the orders, imports of rebar from subject countries, with the exception of Latvia, have been virtually non-existent and/or sporadic.

Construction started November 2005
Topped-out May 25, 2007

It's safe to say Trump didn't use Chinese rebar for Trump International Hotel Las Vegas.

Donald Trump Thinks Americans Workers Aren't Good Enough For The Trump Organization http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4319...

Trump Tower Was Built on Undocumented Polish Immigrants’ Backs http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015...

Marco Rubio's attack on Donald Trump for hiring undocumented Polish workers, explained http://www.vox.com/2016/2/25/11118276/dona...

Donald Trump to Foreign Workers for Florida Club: You’re Hired http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/26/us/polit...

Trump Tower Got Its Start With Undocumented Foreign Workers http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/donald...

Trump's company paid $5 to his undocumented Polish immigrants and Trump said that he would pay no different. Steven, $5 what American union workers top wages was $15, that is what Trump means by "GOOD BUSINESS SINCE."

STEVEN, I am surprised that you missed these HEADLINE NEWS STORIES in the history of this election process.

Oh! by the way!!! There is video showing how Trump reacts when this issue is brought to him.

Designed by Der Scutt, the Trump Tower was constructed on the former site of the Bonwit Teller flagship store, an architecturally renowned building that was built in 1929.[3] The building was bought by Trump in 1979,[4][5] with the intention of building the city's "first super-luxury high rise."[5] The Trump Organization demolished the store at Fifth Avenue and 56th Street and began erecting the Trump Tower there.[3] HRH Construction was the contractor on the building.[6] Barbara Res, who had worked on some of Trump's other projects[7] and then worked as a consultant for Trump until 1996,[8] was the construction executive;[6][8] at the time, Res was one of the only women who had been assigned to oversee a major New York City construction site.[7][8]

In 1983, a class-action lawsuit was filed against the Trump Organization, concerning unpaid labor union pension and medical obligations.[21] Trump testified in 1990 he was unaware that 200 undocumented Polish immigrants, some of whom lived at the site during a 1980 transit strike and worked round-the-clock shifts, were involved in the destruction of the Bonwit Teller building and the Trump Tower project.[22] Trump said that he rarely visited the demolition site[22] and never noticed the laborers, who were known as the "Polish Brigade" and who were visually distinct for their lack of hard hats.[23] A labor consultant and FBI informant testified that Trump was aware of the illegal workers' status.[22] In testimony, Trump stated that he and an executive used the pseudonym "John Baron" in some of his business dealings,[22] although Trump said that he did not do so until years after Trump Tower was constructed.[23] A labor lawyer testified that he was threatened over the phone with a $100 million lawsuit by a John Baron who supposedly worked for the Trump Organization.[23] ("Lots of people use pen names," Trump quipped to a reporter. "Ernest Hemingway used one."[23]) The case went through several appeals and non-jury trials, and was at one point compared by a presiding judge to Jarndyce and Jarndyce, the seemingly unending case which forms the backbone of Charles ****ens' Bleak House.[21] The lawsuit was ultimately settled in 1999, with its records sealed.[23]

Hey Steven this is great information if this subject was about the design of Trump Towers. You keep evading my questions of THE AMERICAN WORKERS in your first reply.

Did you see this article?: Donald Trump Thinks Americans Workers Aren't Good Enough For The Trump Organization http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4319...

Let us start here, lets talk about this article which is keeping in line with the demies of the American Steel Mill worker in this country and Donald Trump's history of not using Americans on trumps projects, here in the U.S.

Now in your second reply is more to this topic at hand which sheds some light on the history of Donald Trumps "GOOD BUSINESS PRACTICES."

In testimony, Trump stated that he and an executive used the pseudonym "John Baron" in some of his business dealings, although Trump said that he did not do so until years after Trump Tower was constructed. A labor lawyer testified that he was threatened over the phone with a $100 million lawsuit by a John Baron who supposedly worked for the Trump Organization.

John Baron pseudonym of his alter ego.

With a track record like this, why would you support such a man?

Steven, are you from Polish dissent?

I support Trump because in 1979 he supported 2 hundred Polish workers and one of the only female executives in the nation, and Billary supported neither.

You don't care about Trump was working his Polish workers around the clock, paying them less them less than minimum wage, living on site and working without proper safety equipment, you don't care about any of that, do you?

$5.00 an hour 1979 was not below minimum wage, not by a long shot. I made $3.50 working in a hospital operating room.

Steven, I asked you a question: You don't care about Trump was working his Polish workers around the clock, paying them less than minimum wage, living on site and working without proper safety equipment, you don't care about any of that, do you?

I can remember Minimum Wage around $2.90 - $3.00 in 1979. Now where did you get Trump was paying $5.00 an hour to those hard working Polish workers. In the law suit, The U.S. District Court For Southern District of New York wrote in it's opinion in 1991 that the undocumented Polish worker was working OFF THE BOOKS, WAS NOT GETTING OVERTIME PAY AND THEY WAS BEING IRREGULARLY PAID, IF AT ALL.

IN SHORT THAT UNDOCUMENTED POLISH WORKER WAS BEING "SHAFTED!!!!" AND JOBS WAS TAKEN FROM AMERICAN WORKERS, BY THIS POLICY.

And you act like you did not see that at all.

NOW, YOU WILL STILL PUT YOUR SUPPORT BEHIND MAN AND THIS CAN OF HISTORY OF TRUMP'S BUSINESS PRACTICES.

According to testimony in a protracted civil suit in federal court, the laborers were paid $5 an hour...

Hay Ron, your cheap Chinese steel came up in the debate!

Yeap, I saw that!!! You notice that Trump ran like hell from that Cheap Chinese Steel Allegation. He really did not want to talk about that, in that setting. (LOL) As you can see that Trump himself is his worst enemy.

WOW!!! Just 20 days to go... As Trump makes his case that the election was taken from him by the press. How sad!!!


Steven, their is more to my question to you than $5 an hour wage. Here's the question: THE FACT OF THE UNDOCUMENTED POLISH was working OFF THE BOOKS, WAS NOT GETTING OVERTIME PAY AND THEY WAS BEING IRREGULARLY PAID, IF AT ALL. Your comments on Trumps business practice.

CLINTON: Well, first, let me say, number one, when I saw the final agreement for TPP, I said I was against it. It didn't meet my test. I've had the same test. Does it create jobs, raise incomes, and further our national security? I'm against it now. I'll be against it after the election. I'll be against it when I'm president.

There's only one of us on this stage who's actually shipped jobs to Mexico, because that's Donald. He's shipped jobs to 12 countries, including Mexico.

But he mentioned China. And, you know, one of the biggest problems we have with China is the illegal dumping of steel and aluminum into our markets. I have fought against that as a senator. I've stood up against it as secretary of state.

Donald has bought Chinese steel and aluminum. In fact, the Trump Hotel right here in Las Vegas was made with Chinese steel. So he goes around with crocodile tears about how terrible it is, but he has given jobs to Chinese steelworkers, not American steelworkers.

WALLACE: Mr. Trump?

CLINTON: That's the kind of approach that is just not going to work.

TRUMP: Well, let me just say -- let me just say.

CLINTON: We're going to pull the country together. We're going to have trade agreements that we enforce. That's why I'm going to have a trade prosecutor for the first time in history. And we're going to enforce those agreements, and we're going to look for businesses to help us by buying American products.

WALLACE: Secretary Clinton? Go ahead, Mr. Trump.

TRUMP: Let me ask a simple question. She's been doing this for 30 years. Why the hell didn't you do it over the last 15, 20 years?

CLINTON: No, I voted.

TRUMP: You were very much involved -- excuse me. My turn. You were very much involved in every aspect of this country. Very much. And you do have experience. I say the one thing you have over me is experience, but it's bad experience, because what you've done has turned out badly.

For 30 years, you've been in a position to help, and if you say that I use steel or I use something else, I -- make it impossible for me to do that. I wouldn't mind.

The problem is, you talk, but you don't get anything done, Hillary. You don't. Just like when you ran the State Department, $6 billion was missing. How do you miss $6 billion? You ran the State Department, $6 billion was either stolen. They don't know. It's gone, $6 billion. If you become president, this country is going to be in some mess. Believe me.

Donald has bought Chinese steel and aluminum. In fact, the Trump Hotel right here in Las Vegas was made with Chinese steel. So he goes around with crocodile tears about how terrible it is, but he has given jobs to Chinese steelworkers, not American steelworkers.

WALLACE: Mr. Trump?

CLINTON: That's the kind of approach that is just not going to work.

TRUMP: Well, let me just say -- let me just say.

That sentence was Trump's greatest reply to buying COMMUNIST CHINESE STEEL: TRUMP: WELL, LET ME JUST SAY--LET ME JUST SAY!!! AND THEN NOTHING, naught, zero, Zilch, Nix, Zippo, not a word else was said by Trump about his business practices with the COMMUNIST CHINESE STEEL INDUSTRY, when he had the chance to explain himself to The American people. WOW!!!

Do you really want this man in The Oval Office?

Donald gave the perfect answer.

"For 30 years, you've been in a position to help, and if you say that I use steel or I use something else, I... Make it impossible for me to do that. I wouldn't mind.

The problem is, you talk, but you don't get anything done, Hillary. You don't."

Hey Steven, didn't you see this:

TRUMP: Let me ask a simple question. She's been doing this for 30 years. Why the hell didn't you do it over the last 15, 20 years?

CLINTON: No, I voted.

You do understand that a member of congress only have one vote.

I had to replay Trumps reply again:

CLINTON: Donald has bought Chinese steel and aluminum. In fact, the Trump Hotel right here in Las Vegas was made with Chinese steel. So he goes around with crocodile tears about how terrible it is, but he has given jobs to Chinese steelworkers, not American steelworkers.

WALLACE: Mr. Trump?

CLINTON: That's the kind of approach that is just not going to work.

TRUMP: Well, let me just say -- let me just say.

That sentence was Trump's greatest reply to buying COMMUNIST CHINESE STEEL: TRUMP: WELL, LET ME JUST SAY--LET ME JUST SAY!!! AND THEN NOTHING, naught, zero, Zilch, Nix, Zippo, not a word else was said by Trump about his business practices with the COMMUNIST CHINESE STEEL INDUSTRY, when he had the chance to explain himself to The American people. WOW!!!

The question to you was: "Do you really want this man in The Oval Office?"

I did not get an answer the last time I asked you that question.

Of course he should be President! Have you ever built anything Ron? I don't get the sense that you have.

And I have never mess over the undocumented Polish or the American worker to buy STEEL from The COMMUNIST CHINESE and called it GOOD BUSINESS neither.

After all of the evidence, you see are blind to the FACT that you have been CONED.

Incorrect Ron. I'm a builder myself and I have used rebar to reinforce concrete. When I bought it at Home Depot I didn't ask nor care if it was made in America. It was a MINUSCULE cost to the project. Trump's buildings are made of American CONCRETE, and built by American workers. And he built them at the very time that Billary's chickens were coming home to roost.

Then YOU, are apart of the problem in this country, you don't care if that product in America or not. WOW!!!

Trump International Hotel & Tower® Chicago is a showcase of bold style and engaging design, polished stainless steel and iridescent-tinted glass. It is the tallest reinforced concrete building in the world, and downtown Chicago's most enviable address.

http://blackinamerica.com/cgi-bin/blog.cgi...

Then YOU, are apart of the problem in this country, you don't care if that product is not made in America or not. WOW!!!

The problem will be fixed in 19 days.

You have not yet addressed the FACT that Trump did business with COMMUNIST China and his policies, helped contributed to the demise of the American steel mill industry and the American steel worker, in this country, WHY?

It was Bill Clinton's policies, not Donald Trump's, that accelerated the demise of the American steel industry.

Actually Ronald Ragan's policy started to down fall of the unionize steelmill worker in America has not recovered since.

Bill Clinton created the real estate bubble that led to the Second Great Depression. When Donald Trump built his two great buildings in Las Vegas and Chicago, the real estate market was melting down and that's when China had an opening for their steel.

George Bush expended too much on that policy and the floor dropped right from upunber him creating the worst inflation since the Great Depression thus making away for two terms of the Obama administration, don't you remember that?

The Republican Party overplayed it's hand causing the bust of the housing boom under George Bush'a Watch... you remember that don't you?

You have not yet addressed the FACT that Trump did business with COMMUNIST China and his policies, helped contributed to the demise of the American steel mill industry and the American steel worker, in this country, WHY?

U.S. Demand. As was the case in the original investigations, demand for rebar depends upon the level of construction activity in the United States, which in turn generally depends on the health of the U.S. economy.146 Major end-use products requiring rebar include roads and bridges, commercial and industrial construction, and public construction.147 Rebar accounts for a relatively small percentage of the total cost of end-use products.148 While there are reported substitutes for rebar, actual substitution is limited by end use.149 The United States is the fourth largest market for rebar in the world.150 Apparent U.S. consumption of rebar increased almost every year during the period of review, with the sharpest increase occurring between 2005 and 2006. Apparent U.S. consumption was 7.7 million short tons in 2001, 7.4 million short tons in 2002, 8.4 million short tons in 2003, 8.7 million short tons in 2004, 8.9 million short tons in 2005, and 9.9 million short tons in 2006.151 From 2001 to 2006, apparent U.S. consumption grew by over 2.2 million short tons, an increase of 27.7 percent.152 Explanations offered for the increase in demand during the review period included a strong economy and strong market demand due to residential and nonresidential construction activity.153 While the parties agree that demand for rebar in the United States has been at very high levels, the parties disagree as to whether demand for rebar in the United States will continue to grow over the next one to two years. The domestic interested parties project that demand will soften due to the recent decline in residential construction, which they argue will lead to a decline in the nonresidential construction spending within six to nine months.154 In contrast, respondent interested parties assert that U.S. demand will continue to grow over the next few years. Although respondents acknowledge that residential construction declined slightly in 2007, they disagree that this decline will also occur in the nonresidential construction sector. They emphasize that the decline in residential construction is due to subprime lending difficulties, not to the overall health of the U.S. economy.155 The record indicates that U.S. demand is likely to remain fairly steady for the foreseeable future. Although domestic producers argue that the decline in residential construction is likely to be followed within six to nine months by a decline in nonresidential construction, that predicted decline in nonresidential construction is not apparent at this time. The record shows that spending for residential construction declined in April 2006 and continued to decrease in most months through April 2007. On a year-to-year basis, residential construction spending was 14.1 percent lower in April 2007 than in April 2006.156 In contrast, spending for nonresidential construction, the largest segment of the rebar market, increased in most months from January 2006 to April 2007. On a year-to-year basis, nonresidential construction spending increased by 12.7 percent between April 2006 and April 2007.157 Moreover, various trade publications and public statements by domestic industry officials indicate that nonresidential construction generally is expected to remain very strong within the reasonable foreseeable future.158 Accordingly, while there may be occasional fluctuations, we find that overall demand for rebar will likely remain fairly steady for the reasonably foreseeable future.

Supply. Throughout the period of review, the domestic industry was the largest supplier of rebar to the U.S. market, although its share of apparent U.S. consumption fluctuated. The domestic industry’s share was 77.6 percent in 2001, 88.1 percent in 2003, 77.2 percent in 2004, 83.6 percent in 2005, and 75.1 percent in 2006.163 Since the original investigations, there have been several consolidations and acquisitions in the domestic industry. As a result, eight firms now own and operate the twenty-five U.S. rebar mills, compared to 14 firms in the original investigations.164 Rebar producers located in nonsubject countries now have ownership interests in three U.S. firms. Gerdau’s parent company is owned by Gerdau, S.A., located in Brazil; Border Steel was acquired by Luxembourg-based Arcelor Mittal from its Mexican parent company Grupo Villacero, in 2007; and TAMCO is *** owned by Tokyo Steel Manufacturing Co., a Japanese producer.165 During the period of review, U.S. producers’ production capacity increased every year, with the exception of a small decline in 2004.166 U.S. producers’ rebar production followed a similar trend.167 U.S. producers’ capacity utilization peaked at 90.1 percent in 2005, but was noticeably higher in the latter part of the period (2003-06), as production increased at a much greater rate than capacity.168 Domestic producers report that they will begin or have begun adding capacity to their existing mills in 2007.169 Nonsubject imports were the next largest supplier to the U.S. rebar market after the domestic industry. Nonsubject imports’ share of apparent U.S. consumption declined from 20.1 percent in 2001 to 16.0 percent in 2002 and 11.3 percent in 2003. Nonsubject imports’ share increased to 21.4 percent in 2004, decreased to 15.9 percent in 2005, and increased to 24.9 percent in 2006.170 Turkey, which is also subject to an antidumping duty order, was the largest individual source of nonsubject imports. In 2006, the quantity from other nonsubject sources combined was roughly equal to the quantity from Turkey. Turkey was responsible for the bulk of the increase in nonsubject import volume over the latter portion of the period of review, as imports of Turkish rebar increased from 206,540 short tons in 2002 to 1.2 million short tons in 2006.171 Subject imports’ share of the U.S. market ranged from a high of 2.3 percent in 2001 to less than 0.1 percent in 2006. During the period of review, Latvia was the predominant supplier of subject rebar imports to the U.S. market. The annual market penetration of each individual subject country other than Latvia has been under one percent since 2002.172 Exports of rebar to the United States are predominantly arranged and transported by global trading companies,173 which generally sell on the spot market and seek to maximize prices by selling into the most advantageous market.174 175 During the period of review, there were a number of trade remedy measures in place in the U.S. market that may have contributed to fluctuations in U.S. import levels. Since April 1997, there has been an antidumping duty order on imports of rebar from Turkey.176 In addition, in 2001, certain steel products, including rebar, were the subject of a global safeguards investigation under section 202 of the Trade Act of 1974.177 As a result of the Commission’s affirmative determinations in that investigation, the President imposed an additional ad valorem tariff on imports of rebar, including all the subject countries in these reviews. The remedy resulting from this proceeding with respect to rebar was the imposition of an additional tariff of 15 percent for the period of March 20, 2002 through March 19, 2003, an additional tariff of 12 percent for the period of March 20, 2003 through March 19, 2004, and an additional tariff of 9 percent for the period of March 20, 2004 through March 19, 2005.178 The safeguard duties, however, were terminated on December 4, 2003.179

Other Factors. Price was cited by a majority of purchasers to be the most important factor in purchasing decisions. Other factors cited included availability, delivery/service, and quality.186 As was true at the time of the original investigations, raw material costs are an important part of the final cost of rebar. Raw material costs increased from 43.0 percent of the cost of goods sold in 2001 to 61.6 percent in 2003, before declining to 58.2 percent in 2005, and then increasing to 59.5 percent in 2006. Steel scrap is the primary component in raw material costs. The cost of steel scrap rose overall from $68 per ton in January 2001 to $251 per ton in March 2004. From March 2004 through the end of 2006, steel scrap prices fluctuated widely, although they remained substantially higher than in 2001-2003. Steel scrap prices increased in the first months of 2007, reaching a high of $305 per short ton in March 2007.187

Hey Steven, I understand why you can't answer my question about You have not yet addressed the FACT that Trump did business with COMMUNIST China and his policies, helped contributed to the demise of the American steel mill industry and the American steel worker, in this country, WHY?

or a response to this: TRUMP: Let me ask a simple question. She's been doing this for 30 years. Why the hell didn't you do it over the last 15, 20 years?

CLINTON: No, I voted.

You do understand that a member of congress only have one vote.

I had to replay Trumps reply again:

CLINTON: Donald has bought Chinese steel and aluminum. In fact, the Trump Hotel right here in Las Vegas was made with Chinese steel. So he goes around with crocodile tears about how terrible it is, but he has given jobs to Chinese steelworkers, not American steelworkers.

WALLACE: Mr. Trump?

CLINTON: That's the kind of approach that is just not going to work.

TRUMP: Well, let me just say -- let me just say.

That sentence was Trump's greatest reply to buying COMMUNIST CHINESE STEEL: TRUMP: WELL, LET ME JUST SAY--LET ME JUST SAY!!! AND THEN NOTHING, naught, zero, Zilch, Nix, Zippo, not a word else was said by Trump about his business practices with the COMMUNIST CHINESE STEEL INDUSTRY, when he had the chance to explain himself to The American people. WOW!!!

The question to you was: "Do you really want this man in The Oval Office?"

I did not get an answer the last time I asked you that question.

or these three questions:

George Bush expanded too much on that policy and the floor dropped right from up-under him creating the worst inflation since the Great Depression thus making away for two terms of the Obama administration to right that free fall, don't you remember that?

The Republican Party overplayed it's hand causing the bust of the housing boom under George Bush's Watch... you remember that don't you?

You have not yet addressed the FACT that Trump did business with COMMUNIST China and his policies, helped contributed to the demise of the American steel mill industry and the American steel worker, in this country, WHY?

I can see why you want to divert these questions and try to change the subject to the demand for rebar because there is no defense for Donald J. Trump Un-American act of doing business with the COMMUNIST CHINESE STEEL MILL INDUSTRY for his American based projects, using undocumented Polish workers, working them off the books instead of doing business with American Steel Mills and giving American union Steel Mill workers the Jobs.

Now the sad part is, later he is running for President and has CONNED about 37% of the registered Republican votes, talking about, "He will bring jobs back to America, when his history with American Unions tells you different.
Trump has DEFRAUDED thousands of Americans out of their hard earned monies in the Trump university scandals and many of the Trump followers, just don’t care.

So, Steven, don't feel too bad, because there are many, too many of Trumps supporters like yourself, who can't explain his policies for America and why he protects PUTIN, as he invites the Russians to hack into private American E-mail accounts to influence our elections and use the same tactics, you use to try and change the subject.


REMEMBER... This blog is not about: "the demand for rebar," This blog is about Trump Towers Made Of Cheap Chinese Steel and my questions to you, what you think of Trump's support for COMMUNIST WORKERS as he proclaims to be the leader to bring American job's back home.

Trump International Hotel Las Vegas, and Trump International Hotel and Tower Chicago, are made of reinforced concrete and I GUARANTEE Ron, they are not reinforced with communist Chinese steel.

You are looking really bad and your creditability for your own belief's are in questioned as you run willfully avoid answering my questions

GUARANTEE, Steven, are you saying that the Newsweek investigated and government documents of Donald Trump's business dealings with Chinese steel companies is false?

You can see that your boy Trump is dropping like a rock in the polls. You can see it on his face too.

Come on man!!! Come on!!! WOW!!!

Trump used PC strand from China in the floors of Trump International Hotel Las Vegas. He could NOT have used Chinese rebar in either of the two buildings, because there was NO Chinese rebar available in the U.S. at that time.

You are false Ron, you are incorrect. Trump Tower is made of concrete, not steel.

I see the use have not refuted the Newsweek investigated and government documents of Donald Trump's business dealings with Chinese steel companies is false?

Calling me false means nothing, focus your attention back on providing proof that the Newsweek investigated and government documents is wrong, OK?

Steelworker, Cliffs CEO blast Trump's use of Chinese Steel in Casinos http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/news/poli...

USW fumes over report that Trump used Chinese steel http://www.virginiamn.com/news/local/usw-f...

Trump Chose to Use Chinese Steel Over American Giving Them Millions of Dollars http://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2016...

Are you saying that these people have on right to believe the Newsweek investigated and government documents of Donald Trump's business dealings with Chinese steel companies is false?

The only thing that Newsweek showed out of that whole long-winded piece, was that the PC strand used for the floors of Trump International Hotel Las Vegas was from China. Show me the proof that was million of dollars Ron.

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steveAdam and Deacon Ron Gray...............

'whiteMan' and ex"blackHebrewIsraelite.......

LBGTV crackCracker and CHIRAQ vet...........

--------- 1400+ hits on CHINESE STEEL......????????????????????

How Stereotypically olde....NOTHING of Value Discussed by 'whiteMan' and 'blackMan' !

------STOP it..stop disrespecting BIA Genesis...Mrs. María de la Soledad Teresa O'Brien

EVERYONE in the WORLD LOOKS to BUY and USE cheapCHINESE steel/toys/applicances/clothing and drugs....!

Robert,

I am not a ex anything, I asked you to use my name and not my religion so that we may have some level of respect for one another, OK!

Calling me Deacon Ron Gray is just fine with me.

Now back to Trump and his blatant disrespect for the unionized American steel mill worker.

Do you believe that Donald Trump was right in disregarding, disrespecting the American steel millworker by using cheap COMMUNIST CHINESE STEEL in his AMERICAN BASED BUILDINGS?

The unions are responsible for the decline of the American steel industry, and American industry in general. Yet the Democrats continue to propagate the myth of "something for nothing".

Why do who say that The unions are responsible for the decline of the American steel industry, and American industry in general?

In 2013 the unionized workforce in America hit a 97 year low. Only 11.3% of all workers were unionized. In the private sector unionization fell to 6.6%, down from a peak of 35% in the 1950s. American corporations have made a concerted effort to get rid of unions and reduce labor costs since 1980, and they have been very successful.

But it was not just the actions of corporations that led to the union demise, in many cases they did it to themselves.

1. Because all of the media attention given to Jimmy Hoffa and other corrupt union bosses – particularly during Congressional hearings – the public began viewing big unions as corrupt.

2. During the 1970s the average family earned $24, 000 a year while steel workers were making $40,000 per year. So there was not a lot of support for high paid union workers, which is still apparent today.

3. Long–term strikes like we have had on The West Coast between the Pacific Maritime Association and the Longshoreman hurt other industries and people working in those industries.

4. Where I think the unions over-reached and created a bad image was having the power to change work rules that limited production and increased costs.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikecollins/20...

Unions have a substantial impact on the compensation and work lives of both unionized and non-unionized workers. This report presents current data on unions’ effect on wages, fringe benefits, total compensation, pay inequality, and workplace protections.

Some of the conclusions are:

Unions raise wages of unionized workers by roughly 20% and raise compensation, including both wages and benefits, by about 28%.

Unions reduce wage inequality because they raise wages more for low- and middle-wage workers than for higher-wage workers, more for blue-collar than for white-collar workers, and more for workers who do not have a college degree.

Strong unions set a pay standard that nonunion employers follow. For example, a high school graduate whose workplace is not unionized but whose industry is 25% unionized is paid 5% more than similar workers in less unionized industries.

The impact of unions on total nonunion wages is almost as large as the impact on total union wages.

The most sweeping advantage for unionized workers is in fringe benefits. Unionized workers are more likely than their nonunionized counterparts to receive paid leave, are approximately 18% to 28% more likely to have employer-provided health insurance, and are 23% to 54% more likely to be in employer-provided pension plans.

Unionized workers receive more generous health benefits than nonunionized workers. They also pay 18% lower health care deductibles and a smaller share of the costs for family coverage. In retirement, unionized workers are 24% more likely to be covered by health insurance paid for by their employer.

Unionized workers receive better pension plans. Not only are they more likely to have a guaranteed benefit in retirement, their employers contribute 28% more toward pensions.

Unionized workers receive 26% more vacation time and 14% more total paid leave (vacations and holidays).

These Benefits helped the middle class worker, unless you think that that minimal wage is to high, well do you?

Ultimately, unions are job killers. They raise the cost of goods and services and make America unable to compete in the world market. That is the real reason for the decline of the American steel industry and why American users of steel turn to less expensive sources.

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steveAdam and Deacon Ron Gray............... familyFued

Do you believe that Donald Trump was right in disregarding, disrespecting the American steel millworker by using cheap COMMUNIST CHINESE STEEL in his AMERICAN BASED BUILDINGS?

Saturday, October 22nd 2016 at 9:56PM
Deacon Ron Gray

unions are job killers......The unions are responsible for the decline of the American steel industry, and American industry in general. Yet the Democrats continue to propagate the myth of "something for nothing".

Sunday, October 23rd 2016 at 2:28AM
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Again...... UNIONIZED chineseWorkers are MAKING a greatIndustrial chineseSociety

.... JUST LIKE UNIONIZED easternEuropean Workers are MAKE a greatIndustrial postSlavery AMERICAN Society

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to the exMan that is 'black' and the 'whiteMan' that SHOULD be Xed from BIA....STOP it ... dual racistNONSENSE for 1500+ HITS?

----- you niiigggereeinos need to STOP....

I askd yo a question Steven: These Benefits helped the middle class worker, unless you think that that minimal wage is to high, well do you?

Robert, I want you to watch this video presentation so we can have a intelligent conversation on the Newsweek report of Trump buying COMMUNIST STEEL from the CHINESE instead buying American made Still, can you watch this video?

This post is not racistNONSENSE or niiigggereeinos, what ever that is...

WATCH THIS VIDEO

I never worked for a union Ron, never had any desire to. The only time I worked for minimum wage was for a couple months when I was 17. Both unions and minimum wage are job killers.

Worse, they are killers of the American spirit.

You say Both unions and minimum wage are job killers. Steven, I did ask you a question and you are still dancing around it. I asked you: These Benefits helped the middle class worker, unless you think that that minimal wage is to high, well do you?

No, those benefits were short term gain for long term pain.

Minimal wage is way too high.

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steveAdam and Deacon Ron Gray...............racistlyIgnorant familyFued

".......This post is not racistNONSENSE or niiigggereeinos, what ever that is...

WATCH THIS VIDEO....."
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'whiteMan' steveAdam is JUST being at BIA, an African American Family site .... racistly Disrespectful to African Americans

AND

'blackMan' Mr. (Deacon) Ron Gray has an Disrespectful image of CHINESE or Asians

----- that's "...racistNONSENSE.."

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niiigggereeinos.... for the 8,877th time is and are RACISTLY IGNORANT 'blackWhiteRedYellow' NONSENSE ENABLERS....like youAll

Where is the disrespect in the term "COMMUNIST CHINESE?"

Maybe Robert, don't realize that people of asian dissent don't all live in China. Poor Dude...

Robert, you have not seen the video yet, have you?

Hey Steven, you finally said that the minimum wage is too high.

Why do you say that?

Minimum wage is too high because there should be no minimum wage. Minimum wage is unconstitutional, just like the ACA. There in no constitutional authority to mandate private contracts, whether wages or health insurance purchases.

Minimum wage is the law of the land. What are you talking unconstitutional?

Review the constitution and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Where in The constitution did you get your facts from?

Where in the Constitution Ron? There is nowhere in the Constitution that authorizes a minimum wage.

YOUR WORDS: There is nowhere in the Constitution that authorizes a minimum wage. NO!!! Minimum wage has always been State Law, that is the reason why in some Republican ran states, they have passed Right To Work Laws and I say, Right to work for less States.

Also, this is one reason why some poor people feel that it must be a change and they are looking hard at Trump but they don't know that Trump don't care about the poor and the disenchanted.

Case in point: A day after 250 employees at the Allegheny Technologies Inc. plant in Midland lost their jobs, the president of the United Steelworkers union blasted Donald Trump as a “phony” who will do nothing to bring back steel to western Pennsylvania.

Leo Gerard, who also serves as a vice president of the AFL-CIO, spoke to The Times on Wednesday and said the Republican presidential candidate has never stood with American labor and has frequently purchased illegally imported steel and aluminum from China.

Trickle down economics don't work for the American people and minimum wage is needed to help people fight inflation.

The federal minimum wage for covered nonexempt employees is $7.25 per hour effective July 24, 2009. The federal minimum wage provisions are contained in the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA). Many states also have minimum wage laws. In cases where an employee is subject to both the state and federal minimum wage laws, the employee is entitled to the higher of the two minimum wages.

https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/wages/mi...

The Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938[1] (abbreviated as FLSA; also referred to as the Wages and Hours Bill[2]) is a federal statute of the United States. The FLSA introduced the forty-hour work week,[3][4] established a national minimum wage,[5] guaranteed "time-and-a-half" for overtime in certain jobs,[6] and prohibited most employment of minors in "oppressive child labor", a term that is defined in the statute.[7] It applies to employees engaged in interstate commerce or employed by an enterprise engaged in commerce or in the production of goods for commerce,[8] unless the employer can claim an exemption from coverage.

$58 for a 8 hour day and you say, that is too much in 2016. a WOW!!!

Do you think minimum wage is a matter of regulating interstate commerce?

WOW!!! This has been the fight of the Republican Party since President Roosevelt's New Deal. The GOP wants to roll back Progressive legislation – minimum-wage laws, child labor laws, agricultural relief laws, and virtually every element of the New Deal legislation that had come before it.

You sound like at one point, you want the FREEDOMS to smoke or do with your body, what you please, as long as it don't infringe on the rights of others but you are backing people and policies that will restrict people from practicing those same rights, NOW THAT SOUNDS HYPOCRITICAL TO ME.

I'm not backing people and policies Ron, I'm backing the Constitution. The commerce clause has been corrupted to justify Federal regulations that have nothing to do with it, like gun control and minimum wage.

WOW!!! Now you are backing the Constitution!!! The constitution was make to benefit the will of The American People and not be the will of the oligarch's and corporations.

In November 1936, Roosevelt won a sweeping reelection victory. In the months following, Roosevelt boldly proposed to reorganize the federal judiciary by adding a new justice each time a justice reached age seventy and failed to retire.[6] The legislation was unveiled on February 5, 1937, and was the subject of Roosevelt's 9th Fireside chat of March 9, 1937.[7][8] Three weeks after the radio address the Supreme Court published an opinion upholding a Washington state minimum wage law in West Coast Hotel Co. v. Parrish.[9] The 5–4 ruling was the result of the apparently sudden jurisprudential shift by Associate Justice Owen Roberts, who joined with the wing of the bench supportive to the New Deal legislation. Since Roberts had previously ruled against most New Deal legislation, his support here was seen as a result of the political pressure the president was exerting on the court. Some interpreted his reversal as an effort to maintain the Court's judicial independence by alleviating the political pressure to create a court more friendly to the New Deal. This reversal came to be known as "the switch in time that saved nine"; however, recent legal-historical scholarship has called that narrative into question[10] as Roberts's decision and vote in the Parrish case predated both the public announcement and introduction of the 1937 bill.[11]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_P...

Steven, in your own words, what did you just post, I am very interested in your opinion, can you do that?

Minimum wage law is the body of law which prohibits employers from hiring employees or workers for less than a given hourly, daily or monthly minimum wage. I understand that more than 90% of all countries have some kind of minimum wage legislation.

In my own words, I posted a Wikipedia article about New Deal legislation and the Supreme Court. Here's another one.

It was the success of the Horsemen in striking down New Deal legislation that led to Roosevelt's court-packing scheme, a controversial proposal in February 1937 to appoint more Justices in order to change the composition of the Court.[4] This was rendered unnecessary when Justice Roberts, who had supported the Four Horsemen on several decisions during the 1935-36 term, sided with the Three Musketeers in a landmark minimum wage case in March 1937 (known as "The switch in time that saved nine"). This, together with the retirement of Van Devanter in June 1937 and his replacement by Hugo Black ended the Four Horsemen's domination of the Court.[4] Black and Roosevelt considered the Four the "direct descendants of Darwin and Spencer."[4]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horse...

Hugo Lafayette Black (February 17, 1886 – September 25, 1971) was an American politician who served as a Democratic United States Senator and represented Alabama in the Senate from 1927 to 1937, and served as an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States from 1937 to 1971. Black was nominated to the Supreme Court by President Franklin D. Roosevelt and confirmed by the Senate by a vote of 63 to 16 (6 Democratic Senators and 10 Republican Senators voted against him.) He was first of nine Roosevelt nominees to the Court,[2] and he outlasted all except for William O. Douglas.[3] Black is widely regarded as one of the most influential Supreme Court justices in the 20th century.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Black

Let us come to recent times, February 17, 1886 – September 25, 1971 has little to nothing to do with TRUMP'S opted to purchase his steel and aluminum from Chinese manufacturers rather than United States corporations based in states like Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan and Wisconsin. In other instances, he abandoned steel altogether, instead choosing the far-less-expensive option of buying concrete from various companies, including some linked to the Luchese and Genovese crime families.

As you know, Trump has maintained that some controversial decisions for his companies amounted to nothing more than taking actions that were good for business.

Now if you want to talk about principle, Trump has joined in with China who has been violating existing international trade laws to do that. The result: around 15,000 American steel and iron workers have lost their jobs over the past year, and thousands more are facing potential layoffs.
Now some of those people are looking in the wrong direction and they are looking to TRUMP as the savior but yet, it was TRUMP along with COMMUNIST CHINA to help GUT The Greatest American Steel Industry in this country, that lifted many American's to middle class status, as good for business.

How can you support this action?

Trump International Hotel Las Vegas is not only a great American achievement, but also 100% honest, unlike the Clinton Foundation.

How can you say that Trump International Hotel Las Vegas 100% honest when Trump has joined in with China who has been violating existing international trade laws to build 2 out of 3 buildings with cheap COMMUNIST CHINESE STEEL. The result: around 15,000 American steel and iron workers have lost their jobs over the past year, and thousands more are facing potential layoffs.

TRUMP'S WORDS: Indeed, people the world over have to work, and to do so most effectively they need to be able to exchange goods and services with others, not only within their own national borders but all over the globe. And it isn’t just factory workers in Bangladesh that are made better off in such a system. American shoppers at Macy’s can get shirts that they can afford, with the Trump label on them that they so desire.

The look of chagrin on Trump’s face at the end of the ad is an admission that “they have to work, too” is an honest assessment of one of the real merits of global trade. It may not be politically expedient for him to acknowledge it in his campaign speeches, but Trump surely knows it to be true.

Steven, Trump is talking about factory workers in Bangladesh, out of one side of his mouth when this man is saying that he is going to bring jobs back to America, out of the other.

Which TRUMP do you want to believe?

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what is CHEAP about erecting the MOST SKYSCRAPERS in the WORLD 2010-2015?

------ to say CHEAP infers INFERIORITY....and 'blackMan' Deacon and 'whiteMan' SteveAdam have taken 1800 Hits to Promote RACISM

There are MORE BILLIONARIES in People's Republic of China(+Hong Kong and Taiwan) than anywhere in the WORLD.....

yet the deacon asks me......

'.....Where is the disrespect in the term "COMMUNIST CHINESE?"

Maybe Robert, don't realize that people of asian dissent don't all live in China. Poor Dude..."

Monday, October 24th 2016 at 10:03PM
Deacon Ron Gray

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Your Racist Lies are like the Lies that bernieSanders is 'a commie'.... RACIST niiigggerrrinos NONSENSE.....STOP it youAll

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Most African Asians do not live in People's Republic of China

100% honest Ron, even Newsweek says so.

"Trump has not committed any crimes by purchasing his steel and aluminum from China, nor did he engage in wrongdoing by using Chinese textile factories to make his clothing lines."

http://www.newsweek.com/how-donald-trump-d...

No Trump did not commit any crimes by purchasing his steel and aluminum from COMMUNIST China, He just denied the American Steel Mill Worker and related American businesses, the chance to work to put food on American tables, the chance to pay a house note or a car payment or save some money by working on a TRUMP project..

Is this his way TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN?

It IS the way to make America great again. Just look at those buildings. The International Trade Commission took action on the dumping issue.

What about the American worker, who was slighted by TRUMP to make the COMMUNIST CHINESE Great? Now Trump wants to be president! WOW you don't care about that STEVEN?

No American steel worker was slighted by Trump's decision to use PC strand from China to reinforce the concrete floors in Trump International Hotel Las Vegas. The unionized American steel workers have been screwing themselves of of jobs for decades.