Mike Pence: "I wasn't offended" by "Hamilton" cast member's comments

I agree.......AND I actually think that pencePenny is a dimwit

Hamilton is a Fairy tale.....would someone get upset at something mickeyMouse said...NO

......I wouldn't pay $20 to see some slaveBarn idea of the USA foundingSlave Holders....

Wow!!! I see that you have missed this point all together.

Robert, did you finish reading this article?

Here you go: " That’s a different approach than President-elect Donald Trump has taken in responding to the incident. In several different tweetstorms over the weekend, Mr. Trump lambasted the cast of the show, called for them to apologize, and called the award-winning “Hamilton,” which has performed to sold-out audiences since it premiered on Broadway last year, “highly overrated.”

Here is the first difference between TRUMP and PENCE .

“highly overrated” ..... fairyTALE, or Cartoon.....

Those words come from a person who was not there or did not see this play so, how do you know that this play is a Cartoon?


Robert, did you finish reading this article?

Did you not see those words from a man that was there? WHAT DID HE SAY ROBERT?

africanAmerican Actors playing Founding Fathers of 18th Century America

---- I Describe that as FANTASY play......Fiction NOT believable in Historical Scholarship........

---- Wouldn't Ituri Forest Pygmies Acting in Play as Artic Inuit-Yupik 1776 be FANTASY...?

That FANTASY play is only in your head Robert, Deal with the subject and question at hand.

I asked you did you finish reading this article?

"........That FANTASY play is only in your head Robert, Deal with the subject and question at hand.

I asked you did you finish reading this article? ....."

Thursday, November 24th 2016 at 1:18PM
Deacon Ron Gray

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Are YOU that dense of a THINKER........

-- Africans portraying foundingFathers/raping-torturing-murdering-genocidal foundingFathers of America 1776+

IS FANTASY; IS A CARTOON;.... IS not something African Americans WORRY about in 2016......

This video is not about me, if you would have seen this video professor FU FU, you would have knew that.

Mike Pence: "I wasn't offended" by "Hamilton" cast member's comments

SUBJECT

"...This video is not about me, if you would have seen this video...FU FU, you would have knew that."

Friday, November 25th 2016 at 2:02PM
Deacon Ron Gray

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---- this blag and ALL your rePASTING! ..... is about you.....NOT African American BIA Families.....

Mike Pence:.."Hamilton" cast .... IS FANTASY; IS A CARTOON;

.... IS not something African Americans WORRY about in 2016...... or 1776

This is the same cut and paste BULL💩 You said on a few of my other blogs, with deferents topics. Get a life.

Mike Pence: "I wasn't offended" by "Hamilton" cast member's comments

SUBJECT

I am offended that 'blacks' cut/paste FANTASY and want Americans to believe it is ART....

but ----blagPaster supreme SCOLDS....ME....

"....the same cut and paste BULL💩 You said on a few of my other blogs, with deferents topics. Get a life..."

Saturday, November 26th 2016 at 3:02PM
Deacon Ron Gray

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thank you, BUT I could NOT be as good as you on D I F F E R E N T topics/subjects.....!

Yes you can, just watch the topic material that begins each of my blogs. If can't do that then, don't comment your here at all. Making comments and dont have clue of the topic, is something that TROLLS do.

pence WAS NOT OFFENDED because he KNEW that :

.."Hamilton" cast .... IS FANTASY; IS A CARTOON;

.... IS not something African Americans WORRY about in 2016...... or 1776

---- that is YOUR SUBJECT and EVERY American ... ALIVE .... not eaten by TROLLS has watched/HEARD your PASTINGS of the SUBJECT...... at BIA>.....

STOP it you Troll Monster.....under a morons' bridge

.....Get up and Stop the dumbing down of the American Citizendry and the disrespect to African American Family

How can you call me TROLL when this is my blog dim one?

How can you call me TROLL when this is my blog dim one?

Sunday, November 27th 2016 at 11:36AM
Deacon Ron Gray

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Definition of Troll

:  a dwarf or giant in Scandinavian folklore inhabiting caves or hills

Origin and Etymology of Troll:

Norwegian troll, from Old Norse troll giant, demon;

---- to you and your MisEducated Mind....Webster Dictionary MUST be a "dim one"?

Definition of a Internet TROLL

In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal, on-topic discussion,[3] often for the troll's amusement.

This sense of both the noun and the verb troll is associated with Internet discourse, but also has been used more widely. Media attention in recent years has equated trolling with online harassment. For example, the mass media have used troll to mean "a person who defaces Internet tribute sites with the aim of causing grief to families."[4][5] In addition, depictions of trolling have been included in popular fictional works, such as the HBO television program The Newsroom, in which a main character encounters harassing persons online and tries to infiltrate their circles by posting negative s*xual comments.

Application of the term troll is subjective. Some readers may characterize a post as trolling, while others may regard the same post as a legitimate contribution to the discussion, even if controversial. Like any pejorative term, it can be used as an ad hominem attack, suggesting a negative motivation.[6]

As noted in an OS News article titled "Why People Troll and How to Stop Them" (25 January 2012), "The traditional definition of trolling includes intent. That is, trolls purposely disrupt forums. This definition is too narrow. Whether someone intends to disrupt a thread or not, the results are the same if they do."[7][8] Others have addressed the same issue, e.g., Claire Hardaker, in her Ph.D. thesis[8] "Trolling in asynchronous computer-mediated communication: From user discussions to academic definitions",[9] and Dr. Phil.[citation needed] Popular recognition of the existence (and prevalence) of non-deliberate, "accidental trolls", has been documented widely, in sources as diverse as Nicole Sullivan's keynote speech at the 2012 Fluent Conference, titled "Don't Feed the Trolls"[10] Gizmodo,[11] online opinions on the subject written by Silicon Valley executives[12] and comics.[13]

Regardless of the circumstances, controversial posts may attract a particularly strong response from those unfamiliar with the robust dialogue found in some online, rather than physical, communities. Experienced participants in online forums know that the most effective way to discourage a troll is usually to ignore it,[citation needed] because responding tends to encourage trolls to continue disruptive posts – hence the often-seen warning: "Please do not feed the trolls".
The "trollface" is an image occasionally used to indicate trolling in Internet culture.[14][15][16]
At times, the word can be abused to refer to anyone with controversial opinions they disagree with.[17] Such usages goes against the ordinary meaning of troll in multiple ways. Most importantly, trolls don't actually believe the controversial views they claim. Farhad Manjoo criticises this view, noting that if the person really is trolling, they are a lot more intelligent than their critics would believe.[17]

REALLY!!!!

The contemporary use of the term is alleged to have appeared on the Internet in the late 1980s,[23][24] but the earliest known attestation according to the Oxford English Dictionary is in 1992.[25][26][27]

The context of the quote cited in the Oxford English Dictionary[26] sets the origin in Usenet in the early 1990s as in the phrase "trolling for newbies", as used in alt.folklore.urban (AFU).[28][29] Commonly, what is meant is a relatively gentle inside joke by veteran users, presenting questions or topics that had been so overdone that only a new user would respond to them earnestly.

For example, a veteran of the group might make a post on the common misconception that glass flows over time. Long-time readers would both recognize the poster's name and know that the topic had been discussed a lot, but new subscribers to the group would not realize, and would thus respond. These types of trolls served as a practice to identify group insiders.

This definition of trolling, considerably narrower than the modern understanding of the term, was considered a positive contribution.[28][30] One of the most notorious AFU trollers, David Mikkelson,[28] went on to create the urban folklore website Snopes.com.

By the late 1990s, alt.folklore.urban had such heavy traffic and participation that trolling of this sort was frowned upon. Others expanded the term to include the practice of playing a seriously misinformed or deluded user, even in newsgroups where one was not a regular; these were often attempts at humor rather than provocation. The noun troll usually referred to an act of trolling—or to the resulting discussion—rather than to the author, though some posts punned on the dual meaning of troll.[31]

In Chinese, trolling is referred to as bái mù (Chinese: 白目; literally: "white eye"), which can be straightforwardly explained as "eyes without pupils", in the sense that whilst the pupil of the eye is used for vision, the white section of the eye cannot see, and trolling involves blindly talking nonsense over the internet, having total disregard to sensitivities or being oblivious to the situation at hand, akin to having eyes without pupils. An alternative term is bái làn (Chinese: 白爛; literally: "white rot"), which describes a post completely nonsensical and full of folly made to upset others, and derives from a Taiwanese slang term for the male genitalia, where genitalia that is pale white in colour represents that someone is young, and thus foolish. Both terms originate from Taiwan, and are also used in Hong Kong and mainland China. Another term, xiǎo bái (Chinese: 小白; literally: "little white") is a derogatory term that refers to both bái mù and bái làn that is used on anonymous posting internet forums. Another common term for a troll used in mainland China is pēn zi (Chinese: 噴子; literally: "sprayer, spurter").

In Japanese, tsuri (釣り?) means "fishing" and refers to intentionally misleading posts whose only purpose is to get the readers to react, i.e. get trolled. arashi (荒らし?) means "laying waste" and can also be used to refer to simple spamming.
In Icelandic, þurs (a thurs) or tröll (a troll) may refer to trolls, the verbs þursa (to troll) or þursast (to be trolling, to troll about) may be used.

In Korean, nak-si (낚시) means "fishing", and is used to refer to Internet trolling attempts, as well as purposefully misleading post titles. A person who recognizes the troll after having responded (or, in case of a post title nak-si, having read the actual post) would often refer to himself as a caught fish.[citation needed]

In Portuguese, more commonly in its Brazilian variant, troll (produced [ˈtɾɔw] in most of Brazil as spelling pronunciation) is the usual term to denote internet trolls (examples of common derivate terms are trollismo or trollagem, "trolling", and the verb trollar, "to troll", which entered popular use), but an older expression, used by those which want to avoid anglicisms or slangs, is complexo do pombo enxadrista to denote trolling behavior, and pombos enxadristas (literally, "chessplayer pigeons") or simply pombos are the terms used to name the trolls. The terms are explained by an adage or popular saying: "Arguing with fulano (i.e., John Doe) is the same as playing chess with a pigeon: the pigeon defecates on the table, drop the pieces and simply fly, claiming victory."

In Thai, the term krian (เกรียน) has been adopted to address Internet trolls. According to the Royal Institute of Thailand, the term, which literally refers to a closely cropped hairstyle worn by schoolboys in Thailand, is from the behaviour of these schoolboys who usually gather to play online games and, during which, make annoying, disruptive, impolite, or unreasonable expressions.[32] The term top krian (ตบเกรียน; "slap a cropped head") refers to the act of posting intellectual replies to refute and cause the messages of Internet trolls to be perceived as unintelligent.[citation needed]

In the Sinhala language, this is called ala kireema (අල කිරීම), which means "Turning it into Potatoes (Sabotage)". Sometimes it is used as ala vagaa kireema (අල වගා කිරීම)—"Planting Potatoes". People/Profiles who does trolling often are called "Potato Planters"—ala vagaakaruvan (අල වගාකරුවන්). This seems to be originated from university slang ala væda (අල වැඩ) which means "Potato business" is used for breaking the laws/codes of the university.[citation needed]

Trolling, identity, and anonymity

Early incidents of trolling[33] were considered to be the same as flaming, but this has changed with modern usage by the news media to refer to the creation of any content that targets another person. The Internet dictionary NetLingo suggests there are four grades of trolling: playtime trolling, tactical trolling, strategic trolling, and domination trolling.[34] The relationship between trolling and flaming was observed in open-access forums in California, on a series of modem-linked computers. CommuniTree was begun in 1978 but was closed in 1982 when accessed by high school teenagers, becoming a ground for trashing and abuse.[35] Some psychologists have suggested that flaming would be caused by deindividuation or decreased self-evaluation: the anonymity of online postings would lead to disinhibition amongst individuals[36] Others have suggested that although flaming and trolling is often unpleasant, it may be a form of normative behavior that expresses the social identity of a certain user group[37][38] According to Tom Postmes, a professor of social and organisational psychology at the universities of Exeter, England, and Groningen, The Netherlands, and the author of Individuality and the Group, who has studied online behavior for 20 years, "Trolls aspire to violence, to the level of trouble they can cause in an environment. They want it to kick off. They want to promote antipathetic emotions of disgust and outrage, which morbidly gives them a sense of pleasure."[35]

The practice of trolling has been documented by a number of academics as early as the 1990s. This included Steven Johnson in 1997 in the book, Interface Culture, and Judith Donath in 1999. Donath's paper outlines the ambiguity of identity in a disembodied "virtual community" such as Usenet:

In the physical world there is an inherent unity to the self, for the body provides a compelling and convenient definition of identity. The norm is: one body, one identity ... The virtual world is different. It is composed of information rather than matter.[39]

Donath provides a concise overview of identity deception games which trade on the confusion between physical and epistemic community:

Trolling is a game about identity deception, albeit one that is played without the consent of most of the players. The troll attempts to pass as a legitimate participant, sharing the group's common interests and concerns; the newsgroups members, if they are cognizant of trolls and other identity deceptions, attempt to both distinguish real from trolling postings, and upon judging a poster a troll, make the offending poster leave the group.

Their success at the former depends on how well they – and the troll – understand identity cues; their success at the latter depends on whether the troll's enjoyment is sufficiently diminished or outweighed by the costs imposed by the group.

Trolls can be costly in several ways. A troll can disrupt the discussion on a newsgroup, disseminate bad advice, and damage the feeling of trust in the newsgroup community. Furthermore, in a group that has become sensitized to trolling – where the rate of deception is high – many honestly naïve questions may be quickly rejected as trollings.

This can be quite off-putting to the new user who upon venturing a first posting is immediately bombarded with angry accusations. Even if the accusation is unfounded, being branded a troll is quite damaging to one's online reputation.[39]

Susan Herring and colleagues in "Searching for Safety Online: Managing 'Trolling' in a Feminist Forum" point out the difficulty inherent in monitoring trolling and maintaining freedom of speech in online communities: "harassment often arises in spaces known for their freedom, lack of censure, and experimental nature".[40] Free speech may lead to tolerance of trolling behavior, complicating the members' efforts to maintain an open, yet supportive discussion area, especially for sensitive topics such as race, gender, and s*xuality.[40]

In an effort to reduce uncivil behavior by increasing accountability, many web sites (e.g. Reuters, Facebook, and Gizmodo) now require commenters to register their names and e-mail addresses.[41]

Corporate, political, and special interest sponsored trolls

See also: troll army and Megaphone desktop tool

Investigative journalist Sharyl Attkisson is one of several in the media who has reported on the increasing trend for organizations to utilize trolls to manipulate public opinion as part and parcel of an Astroturfing initiative. Teams of sponsored trolls, sometimes referred to as sockpuppet armies,[42][43] swarm a site to overwhelm any honest discourse and denigrate any who disagree with them.[44] A 2012 Pew Center on the States presentation on Effective Messaging included two examples of social media posts by a recently launched "rapid response team" dedicated to promoting fluoridation of community water supplies. That same presentation also emphasized changing the topic of conversation as a winning strategy.[45]


A 2016 study by Harvard political scientist Gary King reported that the Chinese government's 50 Cent Party creates 440 million pro-government social media posts per year.[46][47] The report said that government employees were paid to create pro-government posts around the time of national holidays to avoid mass political protests. The Chinese Government ran an editorial in the state-funded Global Times defending censorship and 50c party trolls.[48]

A 2016 study for the NATO Strategic Communications Centre of Excellence (NATO StratCom COE) on hybrid warfare notes that the Russian military intervention in Ukraine "demonstrated how fake identities and accounts were used to disseminate narratives through social media, blogs, and web commentaries in order to manipulate, harass, or deceive opponents."[49]

Robert are you one of these?

Psychological characteristics

Researcher Ben Radford wrote about the phenomenon of clowns in history and modern day in his book Bad Clowns and found that bad clowns have evolved into Internet trolls. They do not dress up as traditional clowns, but for their own amusement, they tease and exploit "human foibles" in order to speak the "truth" and gain a reaction. Like clowns in make-up, Internet trolls hide behind "anonymous accounts and fake usernames." In their eyes they are the trickster and are performing for a nameless audience via the Internet.[50]

This FITS you to a "T".

but lets go on...

Concern troll

A concern troll is a false flag pseudonym created by a user whose actual point of view is opposed to the one that the troll claims to hold. The concern troll posts in Web forums devoted to its declared point of view and attempts to sway the group's actions or opinions while claiming to share their goals, but with professed "concerns". The goal is to sow fear, uncertainty and doubt within the group.[51] This is a particular case of sockpuppeting.

An example of this occurred in 2006 when Tad Furtado, a staffer for then-Congressman Charles Bass (R-NH), was caught posing as a "concerned" supporter of Bass' opponent, Democrat Paul Hodes, on several liberal New Hampshire blogs, using the pseudonyms "IndieNH" or "IndyNH". "IndyNH" expressed concern that Democrats might just be wasting their time or money on Hodes, because Bass was unbeatable.[52][53] Hodes eventually won the election.
Although the term "concern troll" originated in discussions of online behavior, it now sees increasing use to describe similar behaviors that take place offline. For example, James Wolcott of Vanity Fair accused a conservative New York Daily News columnist of "concern troll" behavior in his efforts to downplay the Mark Foley scandal. Wolcott links what he calls concern trolls to what Saul Alinsky calls "Do-Nothings", giving a long quote from Alinsky on the Do-Nothings' method and effects:

These Do-Nothings profess a commitment to social change for ideals of justice, equality, and opportunity, and then abstain from and discourage all effective action for change. They are known by their brand, 'I agree with your ends but not your means'.[54]

The Hill published an op-ed piece by Markos Moulitsas of the liberal blog Daily Kos titled "Dems: Ignore 'Concern Trolls'". The concern trolls in question were not Internet participants but rather Republicans offering public advice and warnings to the Democrats. The author defines "concern trolling" as "offering a poisoned apple in the form of advice to political opponents that, if taken, would harm the recipient".[55]

United States

On 31 March 2010, the Today Show ran a segment detailing the deaths of three separate adolescent girls and trolls' subsequent reactions to their deaths. Shortly after the suicide of high school student Alexis Pilkington, anonymous posters began performing organized psychological harassment across various message boards, referring to Pilkington as a "suicidal slut", and posting graphic images on her Facebook memorial page. The segment also included an exposé of a 2006 accident, in which an eighteen-year-old fatally crashed her father's car into a highway pylon; trolls emailed her grieving family the leaked pictures of her mutilated corpse.[5]

In 2007, the media was fooled by trollers into believing that students were consuming a drug called Jenkem, purportedly made of human waste. A user named Pickwick on TOTSE posted pictures implying that he was inhaling this drug. Major news corporations such as Fox News Channel reported the story and urged parents to warn their children about this drug. Pickwick's pictures of Jenkem were fake and the pictures did not actually feature human waste.[69]

In August 2012, the subject of trolling was featured on the HBO television series The Newsroom. The character of Neal Sampat encounters harassing individuals online, particularly looking at 4chan, and he ends up choosing to post negative comments himself on an economics related forum. The attempt by the character to infiltrate trolls' inner circles attracted debate from media reviewers critiquing the series.[70][71]

The publication of the 2015 non-fiction book The Dark Net: Inside the Digital Underworld by Jamie Bartlett, a journalist and a representative of the British think tank Demos, attracted some attention for its depiction of misunderstood sections of the internet, describing interactions on encrypted sites such as those accessible with the software Tor. Detailing trolling-related groups and the harassment created by them, Bartlett advocated for greater awareness of them and monitoring of their activities. Professor Matthew Wisnioski wrote for The Washington Post that a "league of trolls, anarchists, perverts and drug dealers is at work building a digital world beyond the Silicon Valley offices where our era’s best and brightest have designed a Facebook-friendly" surface and agreed with Bartlett that the activities of trolls go back decades to the Usenet 'flame wars' of the 1990s and even earlier.[72]

Now that I have got that off of my foot... Back to the topic: "Mike Pence: "I wasn't offended" by "Hamilton" cast member's comments"

Now that I have got that off of my foot... Back to the topic: "Mike Pence: "I wasn't offended" by "Hamilton" cast member's comments"


Sunday, November 27th 2016 at 8:55PM
Deacon Ron Gray

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So you have done a good JOB, as Blagger, of SHOWING MANY, MANY definitions of TROLL

----- and for this Blag....YOUR definition of TROLL is WHAT?

I wrote that the Pence is a Troll, that the FANTASY of the hamiltonSlavery folks is a TROLL

----- TROLLS are European Fantasies.....IN ANY DEFINITION

And

1. have I UPSET YOU?

2. has PENCE UPSET YOU?

3. has trumpETERS UPSET YOU?

4. has the RACIST FANTASY of hamilton"Black" face UPSET YOU?

5. ARE you the TROLL or I?

No Robert, I am not upset, I can't allow myself to drop to those levels.

I used this very valuable time as a teaching moment to tell you and the people that is following this blog,exactly who you are,what you are doing on this blog and what I mean, when I use the term "TROLL. Also I wanted to expose your refusal to view this content that is provided for everyone to see and share their opinions on this very on time topic.."

I use this term "TROLL"for your actions on this and other blogs of mine when you don't like the truth of a free flowing conversation, that is gaining the attention of the people here on Black In America.

I just want the people here on Black In America too see you for themselves because if I tried to tell the people who you are, I am sure that some would not believe it.

Here, you are trying your best to side track this conversation to some RACIST FANTASY of Hamilton play, just to use your words, when this message is about Brandon Victor Dixon, the actor who plays Vice President Aaron Burr, thanked Pence for attending but said “we are the diverse America who are alarmed and anxious that your new administration will not protect us.”

See Robert, If you would have view this material, with your mind open, you would have saw that for yourself without any help Old Man!!!

Mike Pence: "I wasn't offended" by "Hamilton" cast member's comments

---- AND I WAS not offended by mrDixon and his comments BECAUSE I believe he is a Fantasy Actor

deacon 'blackHebrewIsraelite' .....

1. I have been at this African American Family site BIA....LONGER than YOU!

2. I have met and KNOW the African American journalist Soledad Obrien...BIA ORIGINATOR!

----- NO ONE at BIA or America NEEDS a trollPasting ....englishChallenged wannabee racistJournalist

WE ALL HAVE read the penceHamilton Fantasy NONSENSE

... and are NOT offended and believe that comments at BIA, SHOULD shatter olde negroMisconceptions....

The purpose of this blog is to share this timely information so our people can make their own decision on this news worthy story of history in our life time. That to me is just apart of freedoms we a black people can enjoy. Can you understand that?