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Long reach to find precedent for 2016 popular vote gap in US past

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. · Friday, November 25th 2016 at 10:18PM · 1391 views
The Rachel Maddow Show 11/23/16
Long reach to find precedent for 2016 popular vote gap in US past

Rachel Maddow looks back 140 years to Reconstruction era U.S. history to find a remotely comparable gap between the popular vote and the electoral vote winner, and warns against leaping to conclusions about the significance of the 2016 popular vote. Duration: 13:21
Long reach to find precedent for 2016 popular vote gap in US past

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Steve Williams Saturday, November 26th 2016 at 8:31AM

The numbers are in: Trump wins Michigan by 10,704
http://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2...

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, December 2nd 2016 at 9:42PM

These are overall votes, that clearly shows that TRUMP has no mandate from the people of the United States of America...

Steve Williams Friday, December 2nd 2016 at 9:46PM

America is much more than Los Angeles, San Francisco, New York and CHICAGO. You lost, get over it.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, December 4th 2016 at 7:57PM

That is right Steven, this was a nationwide popular vote.

Steve Williams Monday, December 5th 2016 at 4:05AM

It was a statewide popular vote. That's who you always forget Ron, the states.

Steve Williams Monday, December 5th 2016 at 4:11AM

There is NO nationwide popular vote.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, December 5th 2016 at 7:54AM

Let me ask you a question Steven, did the nation come out to vote on Tuesday, November 8, 2016?

Steve Williams Monday, December 5th 2016 at 10:42AM

They voted in their individual states, according to their state's law. Many in Florida voted early, many in California voted by mail. Pennsylvania is one of the few who voted, IN PERSON, on November 8.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, December 5th 2016 at 1:21PM

And all the totals added up the Clinton winning the popular Vote over Trump by 2.012.331 votes

Now Trump won the Electoral College vote which makes him the president elect.

That is not a mandate of the Nation...

Steve Williams Monday, December 5th 2016 at 1:37PM

It IS a mandate of the nation Ron, because the nation is a union of states, and the electors are decided by the states, as specified by the nation's constitution, in effect since 1797. There is NO nationwide popular vote.

Steve Williams Monday, December 5th 2016 at 1:53PM

For there to be a nationwide popular vote, there needs to be a constitutional amendment. Stop whining and complaining and take ACTION.

Steve Williams Monday, December 5th 2016 at 1:56PM

I suggest you contact Eric Holder ASAP.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, December 5th 2016 at 7:20PM

In my last statement to you, did I not acknowledge that FACT when I said "Now Trump won the Electoral College vote which makes him the president elect?"




Steve Williams Monday, December 5th 2016 at 7:48PM

You did Ron, but you also said winning the electoral vote is not a mandate.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, December 5th 2016 at 10:28PM

2.012.331 and counting Americans, voted more for Clinton and not for Trump which cancel that LIE about a mandate for TRUMP.

Now if TRUMP would have received 2.012.331 and counting more votes then Clinton, THAT I WOULD CALL A MANDATE.

BUT THAT NEVER HAPPEN!!!!



Steve Williams Tuesday, December 6th 2016 at 7:58AM

In politics, a mandate is the authority granted by a constituency to act as its representative.[1]

The concept of a government having a legitimate mandate to govern via the fair winning of a democratic election is a central idea of representative democracy.

Steve Williams Tuesday, December 6th 2016 at 8:00AM

Read my lips Ron. THERE IS NO NATIONWIDE POPULAR VOTE!

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