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Truth closer on Trump camp pro-Russia influence on GOP platform

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. · Thursday, March 9th 2017 at 7:22AM · 2111 views
The Rachel Maddow Show 3/8/17
Truth closer on Trump camp pro-Russia influence on GOP platform

Rachel Maddow looks at new information on ties between the Trump campaign and Russia and its influence on the Republican Party platform at the national convention, adding credibility to another piece of the unverified Trump dossier. Duration: 16:38
Truth closer on Trump camp pro-Russia influence on GOP platform

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Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, March 9th 2017 at 7:27AM

Hey Steven, here's some more information about what Trump did during the Republican National Convention concerning RUSSIA and the Republican Party Platform...

Did you see this?



Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, March 9th 2017 at 7:53AM

Can anyone (TRUMP SUPPORTS) refute these FACTS found in this report?

Steve Williams Thursday, March 9th 2017 at 7:58AM

This is what I was watching when I said how despicable Rachel is. She also claimed "every night I think I'm going to be talking about something else."

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, March 9th 2017 at 8:55AM

Stephen you still have it refuted anything that informational material Rachel have brought forth, all you doing is complaining like you don't want to hear the information that was being said about what Trump and his campaign has done to AmericaI.

Now Steven, Can you refute any of the information covered in this material.


Steve Williams Thursday, March 9th 2017 at 9:47AM

I can't refute it any more than Rachel can prove it. The difference between you and me Ron, is that I'm willing to wait until those with the capability to investigate classified information have done their job and made a determination.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, March 9th 2017 at 1:31PM

STEVEN:

YOUR WORDS: I can't refute it any more than Rachel can prove it.

Rachel has giving a report of a few things and all you have done is talk in general.

YOUR WORDS: The difference between you and me Ron, is that I'm willing to wait until those with the capability to investigate classified information have done their job and made a determination.

All I can tall about STEVEN, is what has already come to light. like for instance, Russia and its influence on the Republican Party platform at the national convention, like a joint Russian - Ukrainian citizen who worked as a top staffer to Donald Trump now fired campaign manager Paul Manafort. This man worded with Paul in the Ukraine while Paul was managing the political fortunes of that countries PRO - Vladimir dictatorship.

This is something that came to light a few days and I am wondering did you know about that as you wait to make your determination about Donald Tramp?

Steven, did you see this report?



Steve Williams Thursday, March 9th 2017 at 2:49PM

Rachel is nowhere close to being an investigative reporter. Like Lawrence said to Franken, "we know the most important thing is the commercials."

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, March 9th 2017 at 3:27PM

Rachel IS NOT THE ISSUE HERE. RACHEL HAS BROUGHT US THE MESSAGE, LET US TALK ABOUT THE MESSAGE Steven. All I can tall about STEVEN, is what has already come to light.

like for instance, Russia and its influence on the Republican Party platform at the national convention, like a joint Russian - Ukrainian citizen who worked as a top staffer to Donald Trump now fired campaign manager Paul Manafort. This man worded with Paul in the Ukraine while Paul was managing the political fortunes of that countries PRO - Vladimir dictatorship.

Who is this joint Russian - Ukrainian citizen, who worked as a top staffer to Donald Trump now fired campaign manager Paul Manafort?

WHY IS A UKRAINIAN CITIZEN WORKING FOR THE TRUMP CXAMP IN THE FIRST PLACE?

DID TRUMP KNOW WHO PAUL MAMAFORT WAS BEFORE TRUMP ASKED HIM TO JOIN THE CAMPAIGN?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, March 9th 2017 at 3:29PM

STEVEN, I ASKED YOU A QUESTION AND THAT QUESTION WAS: "DID YOU SEE THIS REPORT?

Steve Williams Thursday, March 9th 2017 at 4:02PM

Yes Ron, I saw the whole TRMS at 4 AM this morning.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, March 9th 2017 at 6:17PM

Steven, what is the matter, don't you see these other questions that I asked you?

Maybe you better go back and review this report, watching this report at 4 AM, and now it is 5;07 CST, you may have missed a lot. I asked you these questions as well:

WHY IS A UKRAINIAN CITIZEN WORKING FOR THE TRUMP CAMP IN THE FIRST PLACE?

DID TRUMP KNOW WHO PAUL MANAFORT WAS BEFORE TRUMP ASKED HIM TO JOIN THE CAMPAIGN?

Steve Williams Thursday, March 9th 2017 at 10:19PM

You have your questions Ron and I have mine. What I want to know is who are these TREASONOUS DEMOCRATS infesting our democracy???

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, March 9th 2017 at 10:46PM

Steven, you are here to share your comments on this blog and you have not stated any questions prior to this question which I have no answer because TREASONOUS DEMOCRATS infesting our democracy is not covered in this material.

Now Steven, my questions are apart of the report and I would hope that you stay on topic and address the questions of the moment.

Judging by your last response to this investigate report, you act like this is new news to you too!!!

Maybe you better go back and review this report, watching this report at 4 AM, and now it is 5;07 CST, you may have missed a lot. I asked you these questions as well:

WHY IS A UKRAINIAN CITIZEN WORKING FOR THE TRUMP CAMP IN THE FIRST PLACE?

DID TRUMP KNOW WHO PAUL MANAFORT WAS BEFORE TRUMP ASKED HIM TO JOIN THE CAMPAIGN?

I will have more information on the muting and the disabling of The Secretary of State Office by cutting that department by some 37% which will benefit the PUTTY and The Russian Government and diminish American power and influence around the world.

Is that OK with you too?


Steve Williams Thursday, March 9th 2017 at 11:58PM

So on the first 2 questions, I don't remember Rachel answering them. About the State Department, the complaint seems to be a lack of press conferences. Since we only see them when the press sees fit, I don't care.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, March 10th 2017 at 4:25AM

Wow!!! I feel your frustrations about how Trump has been led by the nose and you don't give a care about why or who these Russian plants are who are turning this country into a third world dictatorship for Putin. WOW!!!

Steve Williams Friday, March 10th 2017 at 7:13AM

So did Rachel answer those 2 questions or not?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, March 10th 2017 at 9:00AM

I am shocked that you would say this. "So on the first 2 questions, I don't remember Rachel answering them. About the State Department, the complaint seems to be a lack of press conferences. Since we only see them when the press sees fit, I don't care.
Thursday, March 9th 2017 at 11:58PM"

YOUR WORDS: So did Rachel answer those 2 questions or not?

You must did don't see this blog yet since you don't care. Signs of continuing Russia influence in US raise alarm http://blackinamerica.com/content/319869/s...

Steven, an associate of an EX-Trump campaign chairman... [MADE] a late summer trip to the U.S. [AND] suggested that he had played a role in GUTTING a proposed amendment to the Republican Party platform that would have staked out a more adversarial stance towards RUSSIA.

THIS RUSSIAN CITIZEN NAME IS "KONSTANTIN KILIMNIK" You might have heard that name in another report. That answered the first question: WHY IS A UKRAINIAN CITIZEN WORKING FOR THE TRUMP CAMP IN THE FIRST PLACE? and shade a lot of light on the second one.

Signs of continuing Russia influence in US raise alarm: http://blackinamerica.com/content/319869/s...

Steve Williams Friday, March 10th 2017 at 9:17AM

So this guy worked for the Trump campaign so Trump could change the Republican platform towards Russia? WOW!

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, March 10th 2017 at 10:44AM

The question was asked of Trump why did you soften THE G.O.P. platform on UKRAINE? The President of United States said: " I WASN'T INVOLVED IN THAT!!! WTF!!!

WHO IS THEY, WHO SOFTEN IT? Where do the buck STOP AT in this administration, STEVEN? DO IT STOPS WITH DONALD JOHN TRUMP or somebody else?

Paul Manafort also That same name who had done all that work in the UKRAINE, he also denied having anything to gutting that issue in the Republican Party platform.

Now we learned that all of those denials have fallen apart and falling on one former TRUMP campaign official who had FESSED UP that he done it by orders from the TRUMP Camp. Maybe you heard of this guy, his name is J.D. Gordan. He said that he done at the request of DONALD J. TRUMP. NOW at that time TRUMP LIED TO HIS SUPPORTS AGAIN.

To answer your question on: so Trump could change the Republican platform towards Russia? WOW!

Because that was one issue, that was carried out in the name of TRUMP, that issue is looking like pay back to putty and to the rest of the world and that one issue would benefit RUSSIA if PUTTY was to go back into UKRAINE and the United States just puts their hands in their pockets and do nothing.

What else will be brought up to the light Steven?

I am going to stop right here because I know for a FACT how long of many of the opposition attention span are.



Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, March 10th 2017 at 11:00AM

Remember this question: THIS RUSSIAN CITIZEN NAME IS "KONSTANTIN KILIMNIK" You might have heard that name in another report. That answered the first question: WHY IS A UKRAINIAN CITIZEN WORKING FOR THE TRUMP CAMP IN THE FIRST PLACE?

That UKRAINIAN CITIZEN WHO NAME IS "KONSTANTIN KILIMNIK" with a message and a mission and that mission was to get that issue out of that PLATFORM. The connection to RUSSIA is being reviled day by day STEVEN.

Did you get a chance to look at this link yet: http://blackinamerica.com/content/319869/s...

Steve Williams Friday, March 10th 2017 at 12:28PM

Rachel cares about two things only, just like Lawrence. Commercials and her paycheck. She's playing you for Chump change Ron.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, March 10th 2017 at 1:50PM

I see that you are still running from the truth STEVEN. I see that you still care about distractions because you don't care to see the light.

STEVEN, these events about the Republican Party gutting there plans to arm THE UKRAINE was ordered from the top of that ticket according to the details in this report.

The FACT THAT YOU DON'T MINE BRING TOLD LIES ABOUT THIS ISSUE INCREDULOUS TO ME.

This story is not about Rachel or Lawrence, This story is about the way Trump and his people has been running things in the first 50 DAYS.

Did you get a chance to look at this link yet? : http://blackinamerica.com/content/319869/s...

WOW!!!

Steve Williams Friday, March 10th 2017 at 1:57PM

I did watch Rachel last night, and I was disappointed that buffoon Lawrence took the night off.

Steve Williams Friday, March 10th 2017 at 2:07PM

What I don't watch ever, since what they did to Bill Cosby, is CNN.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, March 10th 2017 at 3:44PM


YOUR WORDS: I did watch Rachel last night,

That is GREAT STEVEN!!! What did you learn from the material Rachel presented?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, March 10th 2017 at 4:25PM

HEY STEVEN....

Are you still out here?

Steve Williams Friday, March 10th 2017 at 10:44PM

Whatever it was it wasn't memorable.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, March 10th 2017 at 11:43PM

If you can't remember, just go to that last link and click on it and you can brought up to speed.

Steve Williams Saturday, March 11th 2017 at 7:39AM

Listen carefully starting at 3:15. She said "we don't have evidence of the first part but we do have evidence of the second part." There is no logic in saying there is evidence of a quid when there is no evidence of a quo.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, March 11th 2017 at 9:57AM

STEVEN, STEVEN, is that all you heard? She said "we don't have evidence of the first part" WHY Trump and his then campaign manager went into a defensive mode of denial during The Republican Convention, that is the first part STEVEN, that is we don't have evidence of.

Now here is where it gets real interesting, but we do have evidence of the second part. STEVEN, this is evidence that has came to surface after The Republican Convention and who was that UKRAINIAN - RUSSIAN CITIZEN WORKING FOR THE TRUMP CAMP WAS. Why The Republican Convention platform was GUTTED about the RUSSIAN part of if. Now the FESSING UP part of if, you remember J.D. Gordan don't you? He is that former TRUMP Campanian Official who FESSED UP and said that he got those ORDERS OF TRUMP TO GUT that part of the G.O.P. platform. As you can see in this report STEVEN, all of these denial or some may call them LIES, are simply falling apart.

Here's more STEVEN evidence in this report that you said that there is no logic in saying there is evidence of a quid when there is no evidence of a quo.

Breaking News that the F.B.I. is now on the case about this RUSSIAN CITIZEN working on the Trump team, that he came to the U.S. to get that language changed about the issue of RUSSIA.

Now you are insulting my intelligence. Do you think that some foreign immigrant can just jump off a plane, Join Trump's camp, tell Trump what he wants done, who Manafort knew by the way, GUT the language of The G.O.P. platform and fly home, all by himself? Do you really believe that?

I have got more evidence to discuss that is in this report but I will stop here for a moment for your reply STEVEN.




Steve Williams Saturday, March 11th 2017 at 10:50AM

Let me stop you right at your first statement Ron. The first part that Rachel is talking about is from the bogus "dossier", which everyone else has had the common sense to walk back. The "first part" has nothing to do with the Republican convention, it has to do with an allegation of collusion with Russia. What Rachel said is like saying "the suspect was spotted at the scene of the crime, but there is no evidence a crime was committed."

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, March 11th 2017 at 11:28AM

Wait a minute are you talking about the report at the top of this blog? still don't want to come to grips with this:

"Now here is where it gets real interesting, but we do have evidence of the second part. STEVEN, this is evidence that has came to surface after The Republican Convention and who was that UKRAINIAN - RUSSIAN CITIZEN WORKING FOR THE TRUMP CAMP WAS. Why The Republican Convention platform was GUTTED about the RUSSIAN part of if. Now the FESSING UP part of if, you remember J.D. Gordan don't you? He is that former TRUMP Campanian Official who FESSED UP and said that he got those ORDERS OF TRUMP TO GUT that part of the G.O.P. platform. As you can see in this report STEVEN, all of these denial or some may call them LIES, are simply falling apart."

Do you really think that The F.B.I. would go after something bogus, WOW? The F.B.I. has weighed the evidence in this case and found that it was creditable enough to move forward in this investigation. YES! I want the world to know the bottom line to this investigation, one way or the other, don't you?

Steve Williams Saturday, March 11th 2017 at 2:53PM

Ron, during the campaign Trump always said he wanted to get along with Russia and that's one of the reasons I voted for him. Taking that anti-Russian language out of the platform is nothing more than I expected of him. Because I don't buy into the big bad Russian narrative, not since they brought down the wall.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, March 11th 2017 at 3:09PM

So did Obama and you saw the meetings that they had but you did not vote for him. Steven, if taking that anti-Russian language out of the REPLUBICAN platform, let us call it what it is, then why did TRUMP and MANAFORT LIE about what they was doing?

That brings me back to this UKRAINIAN - RUSSIAN CITIZEN who Manafort knew that was working for the Trump camp during the Republican convention. Did that UKRAINIAN - RUSSIAN CITIZEN bring orders from Putty to gut that G.O.P. platform.

I see that you have never address that point at all or answered any of these questions: Do you really think that The F.B.I. would go after something bogus, WOW?

The F.B.I. has weighed the evidence in this case and found that it was creditable enough to move forward in this investigation. YES! I want the world to know the bottom line to this investigation, one way or the other, don't you STEVEN?




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Steve Williams Saturday, March 11th 2017 at 6:50PM

Have you seen this Ron?

http://dailycaller.com/2017/03/06/revisiti...

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, March 11th 2017 at 7:47PM

Thank You for that link, it was a interesting read and I have more questions but Steven, I really want to get an understanding from you of this question: Do you really think that The F.B.I. would go after something bogus?

if taking that anti-Russian language out of the REPLUBICAN platform, let us call it what it is, then why did TRUMP and MANAFORT LIE about what they was doing? Why did they LIE about that one thing in the G.O.P. platform?

Back to UKRAINIAN - RUSSIAN CITIZEN who Manafort knew that was working for the Trump camp during the Republican convention. Did that UKRAINIAN - RUSSIAN CITIZEN bring orders from Putty to gut that point in the G.O.P. platform?


The F.B.I. has weighed the evidence in this case and found that it was creditable enough to move forward in this investigation. YES! I want the world to know the bottom line to this investigation, one way or the other, don't you?

WHY CAN'T YOU ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS STEVEN?

CAN'T YOU SEE THAT RUSSIA DON'T WANT A UNTIED U.S. IN THERE WAY AS PUTTY TRY'S TO UNITE THE OLD SOVIET UNION?

THEY WANT TO WEAKEN OUR GRIP OVER RUSSIA?

HAVE THE RUSSIAN INFLUENCE STOPPED SINCE THE G.O.P. CONVENTION?

Steve Williams Sunday, March 12th 2017 at 4:12AM

Why can't I answer those questions Ron? Because I'm not the FBI, CIA or NSA. The question is, why do you get so worked up about investigations that we KNOW take months or years. Remember Philando Castile? There is news on that case but I'm guessing few outside the Twin Cities area know about it, or the latest on Lavish Diamond. Because people don't care about the investigations, only the firestorms of speculation around them.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, March 12th 2017 at 7:32AM

You don't need to be the any of those investigative agency to see that Donald Trump was lying when he said they did it, he is the president of the United States of America and he gives us the orders, don't you understand that Steven.

Steve Williams Sunday, March 12th 2017 at 8:57AM

So a Presidential candidate made a denial during the campaign. Shocking.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, March 12th 2017 at 9:01AM

No this man told that lie as President of the United States. Makes you want to question is he still getting orders from somebody else? Time will tell.

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Steve Williams Sunday, March 12th 2017 at 9:23AM

What’s been said

Trump said in an interview on ABC that he personally had nothing to do with the change, but did not give a clear answer to whether or not his campaign was involved.

George Stephanopoulos: "Then why did you soften the GOP platform on Ukraine?"

Trump: "I wasn't involved in that. Honestly, I was not involved."

Stephanopoulos: "Your people were."

Trump: "Yeah. I was not involved in that. I'd like to -- I'd have to take a look at it. But I was not involved in that."

Stephanopoulos: "Do you know what they did?"

Trump: "They softened it, I heard, but I was not involved."

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/ar...

What date do you see at this link Ron?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, March 12th 2017 at 11:03AM

All of the was the LIE Donald John Trump told us then and now the The person who actually changed the G.O.P. platform has came fourth and told that he was ordered to gutt the republican platform by Donald J Trump himself.

What is trump not the head of the party platform?

Steve Williams Sunday, March 12th 2017 at 1:37PM

If that guy is relevant, and I doubt it, Comey will be sure to let us know. Why would Trump need to use a Ukrainian to change the GOP platform (which Rachel has never seen BTW)?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, March 12th 2017 at 2:40PM

If you would've seen this link, you would have seen the follow up with the question that you were asking now so, I will provide that link again, please watch:

Did you get a chance to look at this link yet? : http://blackinamerica.com/content/319869/s...

WOW!!!

Steve Williams Sunday, March 12th 2017 at 3:48PM

I'm sure you could put it in your own words Ron, except you don't know what changed because...

"...the original version of the Republican Party platform is not public and unavailable..."

Steve Williams Sunday, March 12th 2017 at 4:15PM

Rachel's fake allegation about the original platform goes from about 1:35 to 2:20. She provides NO evidence except to throw up a photo of the Washington Post and a quote that doesn't even say what she says.

Steve Williams Sunday, March 12th 2017 at 4:16PM

Like Trump says, "some of the most dishonest people in the world."

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, March 12th 2017 at 11:10PM

Did you see her follow-up report Steven : http://blackinamerica.com/content/319869/s...

This will be the sixth time, that I have asked you re view Rachel's update report.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, March 12th 2017 at 11:15PM


Did you see her follow-up report Steven : http://blackinamerica.com/content/319869/s...

This will be the sixth time, that I have asked you re view Rachel's update report. What is the matter STEVEN, the up-dates to this issue is waiting on you. TAKE A LOOK...

Steve Williams Monday, March 13th 2017 at 12:02AM

And I've watched it 4 times Ron. Absolute rubbish.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, March 13th 2017 at 7:34AM

We need to leave section this part of the report and go to the other report which you call absolute rubbish, so you can show me your proof, show me what you got.

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