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Alabama AG sues Birmingham over covered Confederate memorial

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. · Thursday, August 17th 2017 at 6:34PM · 1211 views
The Rachel Maddow Show 8/16/17
Alabama AG sues Birmingham over covered Confederate memorial

Mayor William Bell of Birmingham, Alabama talks with Rachel Maddow about his decision to cover up the city's Confederate Memorial and the legal pushback from the state for doing so. Duration: 4:20
Alabama AG sues Birmingham over covered Confederate memorial

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Steve Williams Thursday, August 17th 2017 at 7:47PM

Thank you Mr. Marshall!

Steve Williams Thursday, August 17th 2017 at 8:03PM

A poll conducted by The Marist Poll, in collaboration with NPR/PBS NewsHour, says that 62 percent of Americans say statues honoring Confederate leaders should remain as a historical symbol.

Here's a breakdown of those who say the statues should stay:

44 percent of Democrats
86 percent of Republicans
61 percent of Independents

http://m.nbc12.com/story/36161762/poll-62-...

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, August 17th 2017 at 8:06PM

for what?

Steve Williams Friday, August 18th 2017 at 12:29AM

For suing the mayor of Birmingham for breaking the law.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, August 18th 2017 at 1:12AM

We will see the out come real soon.

Steve Williams Friday, August 18th 2017 at 1:38AM

You don't care about the outcome, only the propaganda of the moment.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, August 18th 2017 at 7:57AM

Sir, don't tell me what I care about, YOU ARE OUT OF BOUND.

Steve Williams Friday, August 18th 2017 at 8:07AM

Show me where you ever made a post about Confederate statues before Charlottesville.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, August 18th 2017 at 8:47AM

Charlottesville has not been in the news during the Trump administration like this before neither. Trump has never covered for the Nazi, White Supremacist groups that came from hundreds, if not thousand miles around to come to Charlottesville to spread this kind of hate and to kill American's in this nations neither Steve.

Wait a minute Steve, are you supporting these Nazi's and these White Supremacist groups for doing what they did in Charlottesville.

Steve Williams Friday, August 18th 2017 at 9:36AM

No Ron, I'm supporting keeping the Confederate statues up.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, August 18th 2017 at 4:48PM

So does the Nazi, White Supremacist groups too, you in fine company.

Steve Williams Friday, August 18th 2017 at 6:25PM

The white supremacists support the second amendment too. What's your point?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, August 18th 2017 at 7:14PM

Don't you realize what the Nazi, White Supremacist groups represents?

Steve Williams Friday, August 18th 2017 at 8:11PM

I do Ron. That's why I posted the Vice News documentary.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, August 18th 2017 at 8:13PM

What is it, tell me now and in your own words, can you do that?

Steve Williams Friday, August 18th 2017 at 9:24PM

I could Ron but it would reference parts of that documentary.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, August 20th 2017 at 1:43PM


Sounds like to me that you are in support of these neo-nazis and these white supremacist groups.n

Steve Williams Sunday, August 20th 2017 at 2:22PM

I am not, but neither do I support those like yourself who call our President one, and neither do I support the cleansing of American history.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, August 20th 2017 at 3:07PM

You are a man right! What is with this carefully crafted language you use it, to say nothing mmm?



Steve Williams Sunday, August 20th 2017 at 7:17PM

My language Ron is to say that your language is deceit. Self deceipt first and foremost, to believe that the media is your friend.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, August 20th 2017 at 8:27PM

I have a choice to make each time I turn on the computer and turn on the T.V., to make sure I can see the words come out of their mouth, to believe what was said, real and then I research it and then I share it. That is what I call NEWS. The News media is something that you can't friendship with in the first place. I even get something from FOX NEWS.





Steve Williams Sunday, August 20th 2017 at 9:02PM

What about the news they don't show you?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, August 20th 2017 at 9:35PM

The only thing I can deal with is the news the media shows me and once I see that, then I have a decision to make, just like you.


Steve Williams Monday, August 21st 2017 at 12:12AM

Myself Ron, I think the news they don't show is a big problem.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/14/us/confedera...

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, August 21st 2017 at 9:44AM

I know what you mean, Like what is the Trump administration is doing to protect our voting system against further Russian attacks.

Steve Williams Monday, August 21st 2017 at 10:20AM

I notice Ron in your reply to Robert re: Brietbart that you used your standard tactic of did you watch the video. I didn't even need to click on that link to know what your comment would be. On the other hand, when it suits your purpose you are more than willing to go off topic on your own blog. Or maybe I missed that this one is about Russia?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, August 21st 2017 at 4:56PM

Nice, that is nice Steve, for the likes in you. Are we still talking about the news media, their News reporting techniques and the decisions one has to make, to something else?

This is a free flowing exchange of thought, you have proved that. It is good to here about the way you think, what's in your soul and the way you think about the past and the things you don't say.

Believe Me, I will bring you back to the topic, don't worry about that.

Steve Williams Monday, August 21st 2017 at 5:30PM

You are correct Ron, let's talk about monuments. I was disturbed when I saw that Confederate Soldiers Monument come down on its head and get crushed. Confederate soldiers died for their cause and to say that cause was for slavery is incorrect. The Confederate rank and file were not slave owners and they deserve our respect, just as Vietnam veterans do though at the time many called you baby killers, and you may likewise be harshly judged by future generations. So I was glad when I finally saw a story about the penalty those lawless ones in Durham are facing on FELONY charges.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, August 21st 2017 at 7:01PM

Robert E Lee statue is in the news, it was his ideology in orders that those soldiers died to carry out the ACT of war against United States of America, to fight for what they believed in and that is the institution of slavery.

Those poor Confederate soldiers both Black and White was these tools of the richer man, conned into fighting the Civil War, two continue that slavery institution, that way of life in the SOUTH.


Steve Williams Monday, August 21st 2017 at 10:26PM

I'd like to hear more about Robert E. Lee.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, August 21st 2017 at 10:42PM

Read more about Robert E. Lee, go read a book on the subject, Steve.

Let us talk about monument in a park across the street from city hall in Birmingham, Alabama, which was put in in 1905. Way after The Civil War. Now this monument was not taken down but covered up.

Let us get back on topic.

Steve Williams Tuesday, August 22nd 2017 at 9:14AM

I'm surprised you support the dishonoring of the fallen in battle. Don't expect better treatment of your sacrifice, by future generations.

The Confederate Soldiers and Sailors monument stands at the entrance of the park at the end of 20th Street North, and it was given to the city by the United Daughters of the Confederacy in 1905.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Tuesday, August 22nd 2017 at 10:00AM

No, Steve, don't get me wrong, I have always been on the side of fighting for FREEDOM and not the suppression of it.

Why did the United Daughters of the Confederacy in 1905 donate such a monument? Steve, Around Civil Rights Movement: 1890-1900 1890: The state of Mississippi adopts poll taxes and literacy tests to discourage black voters. 1895: Booker T. Washington delivers his Atlanta Exposition speech, which accepts segregation of the races. this was just a further reminder of Black suppression in this country.

This type of monument has no place, in this place and time. The fight for Freedom still marches on.



American Civil War began April 12, 1861 and ended May 9, 1865 the result: Union Victory. Just look at those THUGS that is in support promoting the Confederacy.

NEO-NAZI'S Steve, can you tell me what is there position?

Steve Williams Tuesday, August 22nd 2017 at 2:44PM

So the statue was to discourage African American voters?

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