Trump-Putin meeting overshadowed by new indictments of Russians

Obviously, the Trump-Putin meeting was not overshadowed.

As you know Trump was weak with Putin and both Republicans and the Democrats have criticized Trump for not bringing up Russia's invasion of Crimea.

Also, After President Donald Trump's stunning news conference Monday next to Russian President Vladimir Putin, members of Congress -- including some powerful Republicans -- were quick to rebuke Trump's performance on the world stage and Trump's refusal to call Putin out for interfering in the US election.

House Speaker Paul Ryan contradicted several comments Trump made during his Helsinki news conference, most notably backing the US intelligence community assessment that Russia meddled with the US 2016 presidential election.

WOW!!! I just can't make this stuff up.

You wanted President Trump and President Putin to be allies. Those powerful Republicans you mention are weak as hell, just the usual Republicans.

Now you are calling House Speaker Paul Ryan weak as hell. As the war between Republicans continues, WOW!!!.

Ryan is leaving, Corker is leaving, Flake is leaving, McCabe is a loser, Graham is a loser, Rubio is a loser. Yes Ron, weak as hell. It's a good thing that President Trump and President Putin have forged a strong tie.

Do you really think that Putin is a friend to the United states of America?

What does that mean Ron, "friend to the United States of America", and what does it have to do what I said? It's a good thing that President Trump and President Putin have forged a strong tie.

Do you really think that Putin is a friend to the United states of America? Meaning an "Ally," having the best interest in maintaining peace in the world.

Putin wants the old communist Soviet Union back and Trump wants to build the tallest building in Moscow.

I don't know what is a "friend to the United States of America". And you don't know Ron, what Putin or Trump want. We do know though, what Jonathan Lemire wants.

Let me put your as on the right track Steve. Being a friend to The United States of America means to share our counties interest and our counties values. GOT IT?


Since you want to dummy up on us or are you acting? because somewhere in the back of my head thinks, you are for real, DAMN!

I don't know what it "means to share our counties interest and our counties values". What county interest and what county values?

For starters take THE BILL OF RIGHTS

FREEDOM OF RELIGION
FREEDOM OF SPEECH
FREEDOM OF THE PRESS
FREEDOM OF ASSEMBLY
FREEDOM OF PETITION
THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS

Steve, you are not from around here are you?

Then it's obvious President Putin is a friend of the United States of America.

Is that what you really believe Steve? Now Putin don't believe his people should not have the right of FREEDOM OF SPEECH, FREEDOM OF RELIGION or THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS.


You would be made a criminal for your love TO BEAR ARMS, that very same right you have right now.


You remember this chant: "Obama is coming for your GUNS." NOW!!!





No Steve it is not obvious Putin is a friend of the United States of America. Now what was obvious Trump showed the world that he is weak in comparison to puttie.

President Putin is a stronger defender of the right to bear arms than you are Ron.

Puty is a killer, he is a invader, A dream of the return of the Soviet Union, He wants to bring back communism. Do you know the history of our country and communism? If you did, You wouldn’t Acknowledge that man or give my any praise.

Now as far as Putin’s support for gun rights or The right people in this country to organize a gun rights lobby, You can’t show me Any proof that one Gun association in Russia on the same scale like the NRA in this country?

Ron, I can see that you are the one willing to let Mariia Butina rot in jail over the right to bear arms, not President Putin.

You can't answer this question: "Now as far as Putin’s support for gun rights or The right people in this country to organize a gun rights lobby, You can’t show me Any proof that one Gun association in Russia on the same scale like the NRA in this country?"

Don't hand me this BULL 💩: Ron, I can see that you are the one willing to let Mariia Butina rot in jail over the right to bear arms, not President Putin.

Tuesday, July 17th 2018 at 10:23PM
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Answer my question Steve.

So we've seen that Putin supports the right to bear arms while you Ron do not. Neither do you support Mariia Butina's right to free speech.

You can’t show me Any proof that one Gun association exist in Russia on the same scale like the NRA in this country?" You can’t, can you?

I don't need to show you any "Gun association" Ron. Read the Russian Constitution.

Because you can't find it don't exist. The only place that Russian gun Association exist is in the far regions of your small mind. WOW!!!

At least try Ron to correct your abysmal ignorance. We've been over this before.

Yes I remember and I'm still talking the same thing all the while. You just picking stuff out of your behind, to see if it will stick. I asked you to present your proof and you have not because you cannot prove a lie but yet here you come anyway after being told your thinking was WONG and the truth was nowhere to be found. WOW!!!

Gun associations have nothing to do with the right to bear arms.

Are these are your words Steve?:

"So we've seen that Putin supports the right to bear arms while you Ron do not. Neither do you support Mariia Butina's right to free speech."

Wednesday, July 18th 2018 at 10:25AM
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Let us highlight this sentence of your Steve. "So we've seen that Putin supports the right to bear arms." This is what I am asking you to do, is to show us where we've seen that Putin supports the right to bear arms?" You has shown us nothing that Putin supports the rights for his people in Russia, the right to bear arms. This is the LIE you told, which you can't show any proof why you believe that LIE.

I read about people like you, the term that may fit your personality is the term "PATHOLOGICAL LIAR."

You won't even stand with your own words, what a shame that is.

We've been over this subject before Ron, the last time this fake NRA story came up.

Show us where we've seen that Putin supports the right for his people to bear arms?"

Show us this proof and I will move on, can you do that?

MOSCOW -- The mass shooting last week at an elementary school in Connecticut sparked calls for stricter gun control laws in the United States. But thousands of kilometers away, the fledgling gun lobby in Moscow drew a different lesson: Gun laws in Russia should be liberalized.

And while the powerful U.S. gun lobby group, the National Rifle Association, waited four days before issuing a public statement on the tragedy, which claimed the lives of 20 children and six adults, the Moscow-based Right To Bear Arms made its voice heard within hours with an announcement on its website calling for increased access to weapons.

"In this shooting six teachers died, six people who could literally use only their hands to defend children," said Maria Butina, the organization's 24-year old founder. "The murderer planned this knowing that no one would be armed."

https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-gun-laws-ne...

leaders of Russia’s gun movement -- virtually nonexistent a year ago -- say all they have to do now is convince Russians themselves of the value of greater access to guns.

Unlike the U.S. Constitution, which enshrines the right to bear arms in its Second Amendment, there are no such guarantees in Russia's basic law.

Steve, where in this article where Putin supports the right for his people to bear arms?"

That link that you provided did not come close to addressing the support by Putin in support of gun lobby in Russia. Did you really think that BULL 💩 was going to work? I am laughing at that weak as attempt to BULL 💩 the readership, here at Black In America. WOW!!! you are acting real foolish at this point.

I've just started Ron. I'm reposting all the links I previously found the last time I had to educate your dumb ass about this issue.

Article 25

The home shall be inviolable. No one shall have the right to get into a house against the will of those living there, except for the cases established by a federal law or by court decision.

http://www.constitution.ru/en/10003000-03....

Summary
While self-defense and protection of property is a constitutional right guaranteed to Russian citizens, Russian legislation on gun control is relatively strict, limiting the circulation of firearms to Russian citizens older than eighteen years of age with a registered permanent residence, and for the purposes of self-defense, hunting, and sports activities only. The acquisition of guns is based on licenses provided for a five-year period by local police departments at one’s place of residence after a thorough background check, including a review of the petitioner’s ability to store guns safely and an evaluation of his/her medical records. Mentally ill people and those who have been treated for substance abuse are not allowed to possess firearms.

Major issues related to gun control are regulated by the Federal Law on Weapons and implementing regulations issued by the federal government and varied executive agencies. Legislative assemblies of the Russian Federation constituent components can enact provincial laws related to the circulation of firearms so long as they do not contradict federal legislation. Individuals are allowed to have up to ten long-barreled guns in their possession, and more if they are collectibles. Individuals are not allowed to carry guns acquired for self-defense; a license only serves as a carrying permit for hunting and sport firearms when these guns need to be transported. Russian citizens may not own guns that shoot in bursts or have magazines with more than a ten-cartridge capacity. The legalization of short-barreled handguns is currently being discussed by the legislature.

https://www.loc.gov/law/help/firearms-cont...

That was a great read Steve and I think many of those policy should be adopted as gun reform in this country.

Now Steve, I only asked you one question and that was: "Where in this article where Putin supports the right for his people to bear arms?"

Now you give me all this and nowhere in your last response states Putin supports the right for his people to bear arms?"

Now I am a dumb ass. That means if you can't make yourself clear to a dumb ass and show your claim that Putin supports the right for his people to bear arms, what do that make you Steve?" WOW!!!

Putin is the Russian President and Russian law supports the right for his people to bear arms, therefore President Putin also supports that right.

President Trump don't support the laws of this land, that is the reason why he wants to get rid ROE V. WADE. So please, don't give that BULL 💩.

Now I am a dumb ass. That means if you can't make yourself clear to a dumb ass and show your claim that Putin supports the right for his people to bear arms, what do that make you Steve?" WOW!!!

I asked this:

"I don't know what it "means to share our counties interest and our counties values". What county interest and what county values?"

And you answered:

"For starters take THE BILL OF RIGHTS

FREEDOM OF RELIGION
FREEDOM OF SPEECH
FREEDOM OF THE PRESS
FREEDOM OF ASSEMBLY
FREEDOM OF PETITION
THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS"

So I've proved a common interest in the right to bear arms. We also have a common interest in every other one of those values.

You have proven nothing Steve. "Now I am a dumb ass. That means if you can't make yourself clear to a dumb ass and show your claim that Putin supports the right for his people to bear arms, what do that make you Steve?" WOW!!!


Where is that link that you claim that Putin supports the right for his people to bear arms. You have not produced that yet, WHY?

According to your criteria Ron, Putin is a friend to America. He believes in everything you do.

Where is that link that you claim that Putin supports the right for his people to bear arms. You have not produced that yet, WHY?

Are you saying Ron you no longer care about my answer to your question?

No Steve, What I am asking you: Where is that link that you claim that Putin supports the right for his people to bear arms. You have not produced that yet, WHY?

You don't need a link Ron. Think about how you hate the right to bear arms and stop putting the blame on innocent Russians like Mariia Butina.

Then why did you come to this blog with this BULL:

So we've seen that Putin supports the right to bear arms while you Ron do not. Neither do you support Mariia Butina's right to free speech.

Wednesday, July 18th 2018 at 10:25AM
Steve Williams | delete | block member

If you could not point to the information that made you want to repeat such a LIE, WHY?