Trump Retreats On Background Check, Blames Mental Health For Gun Violence -

“We already have a lot of background checks, ” President Trump said to reporters on Sunday, appearing to back away from calling for the “meaningful background checks” he said he wanted to implement earlier this month after a rash of deadly mass shootings in Dayton, Ohio, El Paso, Texas, and at the Gilroy Garlic Festival in California. New NBC News/WSJ polling shows that Americans favor expanded background checks by an overwhelming margin. Which side will win out — the majority, or the NRA?

The polls are absolutely fake. Nobody has the faintest idea what a "universal background check" IS.

The flip flop president did it again. WOW!!!

I guess you shouldn't have pissed off Wayne LaPierre huh?

Ron, you don't have a clue what a "universal background check" is.

You What do you call a “"Universal Background Check" Steve?

A universal background check means forcing states to conduct background checks on firearm transfers between citizens of a given state.

Here's what a Proposals for universal background checks is and what it would require. According to Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, almost all firearms transactions in the United States to be recorded and go through the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), closing what is sometimes called the private sale exemption.

Steve Currently, federal law requires background checks (through the National Instant Criminal Background Check System) only for guns sold through licensed firearm dealers, which account for 78% of all gun sales in the United States. This figure was published in a 2017 study by the Annals of Internal Medicine which compared data from 1994, indicating 40% of recent gun acquisitions were completed without a background check, to a 2015 survey which found that 22% of recent gun transfers (purchased and nonpurchased) were completed without a background check. The current federal law allows people not "engaged in the business" of selling firearms to sell firearms without a license or records. The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence (CSGV) states that the National Instant Criminal Background Check System has prevented over two million felons and other prohibited persons from purchasing firearms. According to the CSGV, the law also has a prohibitive effect, that deters illegal purchases.

National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) https://www.fbi.gov/services/cjis/nics

This is a National effort and not just any given state Steve.

The federal legislature has no authority to force the states to conduct background checks. Look at this and tell me Ron, what you see when you click on Constitutional Authority Statement.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congre...

Judging by the recent events of mass murder that is happening in this country this law Is it bipartisan effort to find a transfer of a weapon that 90% of the United States population wants to see changed.

Steve SEC. 2. PURPOSE tells you exactly what this bill is about, did you read this bill?

The purpose of this Act is to utilize the current background checks process in the United States to ensure individuals prohibited from gun possession are not able to obtain firearms.

It's the province of the several States to govern firearm transfers between their own citizens Ron. Background checks as they are currently enacted in federal law are based on the FLIMSY excuse that they are authorized under the commerce clause. They can't even MAKE UP a constitutional excuse for background checks between private citizens. That's why H.R. 8 has NO CONSTITUTIONAL BASIS.

Now you want to change the subject in the middle of the road, first you said this: The federal legislature has no authority to force the states to conduct background checks. Look at this and tell me Ron, what you see when you click on Constitutional Authority Statement.

Then you gave me a link https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congre...

MY REPLY: Since I showed you the purpose of this bill, now you want to change your story. Where in H.R. 8 tells you that "That's why H.R. 8 has NO CONSTITUTIONAL BASIS." WHERE IS YOUR PROOF?"

Ron, what do you see here as the Constitutional authority?

Constitutional Authority StatementClose

From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
By Mr. THOMPSON of California:
H.R. 8.
Congress has the power to enact this legislation pursuant
to the following:
Article I
[Page H284]


About Constitutional Authority Statements
On January 5, 2011, the House of Representatives adopted an amendment to House Rule XII. Rule XII, clause 7(c) requires that, to be accepted for introduction by the House Clerk, all bills (H.R.) and joint resolutions (H.J.Res.) must provide a document stating "as specifically as practicable the power or powers granted to Congress in the Constitution to enact the bill or joint resolution."

CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY STATEMENT
Pursuant to clause 7 of rule XII of the Rules of the House of Representa- tives, the following statements are sub- mitted regarding the specific powers granted to Congress in the Constitu- tion to enact the accompanying bill or joint resolution.
By Mr. THOMPSON of California: H.R. 8.
Congress has the power to enact this legis- lation pursuant to the following:
Article I
By Mr. QUIGLEY:
H.R. 264.
Congress has the power to enact this legis- lation pursuant to the following:
The principal constitutional authority for this legislation is clause 7 of section 9 of ar- ticle I of the Constitution of the United States (the appropriation power), which states:
‘‘No Money shall be drawn from the Treas- ury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law . . . .’’
In addition, clause 1 of section 8 of article I of the Constitution (the spending power) provides:
‘‘The Congress shall have the Power . . . to pay the Debts and provide for the common

https://www.congress.gov/116/crec/2019/01/...

I'm sure you can see the difference here between H.R. 8 and H.R. 264. Now answer the question Ron, WHERE in Article 1 is your authority for "universal background checks)?

Don't you see that these are bills and not the law yet?

This bill won't become law because there is no Constitutional authority for it. Ron, if I want to sell one of my guns to my good friend, there is no need for a background check.

Keeping the people of safe From Foreign and domestic enemies are constitutional by law.

Keeping the people safe From Foreign and domestic enemies of The United States of America is constitutional by law.

Do you ever tell that BULL 💩 to anyone again.

Ron, each state can change the law on their own. Where I am I couldn't sell one of my guns to my good friend, without doing the transfer through an FFL holder. It's already federal law that any transfer across state lines has to go through an FFL holder. All the bases are covered.

This Gun law needs to be one law and nation wide.

This Gun law needs to be one law and nation wide.

All you need to do then Ron is amend the Constitution.

The Amend the Constitution, what part?

You need to amend Article 1 Section 8 Ron. Congress has the power to tax and spend and control interstate commerce. You need to give it the power to enact firearms legislation, consistent with the second amendment of course.

No! What needs to be done is to in act a law Similar to the drivers license law, with a federal mandate And it ministered by each and every state in the country.

We already do that Ron, but it's administered by the federal not state government.

Then that means you NOT already do that Steve.

Also, have a gun owners to have Liability Insurance just like you do a car.

I have gone through the process Ron.

Have you noticed that Trump has FLIPPED again on the Gun Background issue?

He did not flip Ron. President Trump is your best chance ever of getting expanded background checks and just look at you, you are ready to throw in the towel and Congress is not even in session for another week and a half yet.

That is so weak as• speculation on your part Steven, WOW 😲!!!

It's no speculation Ron. I'm ready to get behind the President, and I'll bet I'm not the only one. But you people don't want to.

Which policy is that?

O would support my Senator, Patrick Toomey's bill.

Toomey is again pushing for a vote on his and Manchin’s proposal, which would require background checks on all commercial gun sales, closing a loophole involving sales online or at gun shows. Giffords’ group wants a vote on the broader background check bill approved earlier this year in the U.S. House of Representatives.

https://www.mcall.com/news/pennsylvania/mc...

It’s about time you showed some common sense. Thank you I too can agree with this bipartisan bill On gun control.

It's not about common sense Ron. It's about the common misconception that the Federal government can fix the problem.

No!!! It’s about coming together on a bipartisan GUN bill that we both agree on.

No, it's about bowing to unreason.

Steve, Are you supporting your Senator, Patrick Toomey's bill?

O would support my Senator, Patrick Toomey's bill.

Toomey is again pushing for a vote on his and Manchin’s proposal, which would require background checks on all commercial gun sales, closing a loophole involving sales online or at gun shows. Giffords’ group wants a vote on the broader background check bill approved earlier this year in the U.S. House of Representatives.

https://www.mcall.com/news/pennsylvania/mc...

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The public outcry requires passing expanded background checks. At the same time there is no constitutional basis for it. That's what I mean by "bowing to unreason" Ron. I do support Toomey's bill over H.R. 8, because Toomey's bill is limited to commercial sales.

Listen Steve, that is what The Constitution is all about, bills voted into laws to protect the rights of people of The United States of America from enemies foreign and domestic.

So don't you ever tell an American that LIE there is no constitutional basis for Gun Laws in the form of a comprehensive back ground check in this conutry.

Until you show me where the Constitution gives Congress the power to regulate firearms, I'll continue to call you out Ron.

What part of my statement about what the U.S. Constitution is and its purpose.

1. The Constitution is all about, bills voted into laws to protect the rights of people of The United States of America from enemies foreign and domestic. What part of that, you did not understand?

Where did you get the part about domestic enemies?

Domestic Enemies (to the U.S. Constitution) are those who manipulate the law or lawmakers to violate the Founder’s intent, remove their safeguards, distort, circumvent, or in any way threaten the Constitution, threaten sovereignty, infringe upon state and individual rights, usurp authority, advance tyranny, or provide immunity or pardons for such.

I' am sure that you would agree me on this: When some sick hate filled White Supremus carries out his plans to shoot and kill other Americans in a School, Church, Synagogue, Shoot into a crowd of American people indiscriminately or plan to kill other americans with a bomb, is a domestic enemy, I am sure that you would agree with that, RIGHT or DO YOU?

No Ron, I don't agree with your definition of a Domestic Enemy of the Constitution.

So far you have not said 💩 yet Steve, WHY?