We're Worried About Russian Defectors, Because Of Putin' | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC

Joseph Augustyn, former director of CIA's Defector Operations Center, talks with Rachel Maddow about how the CIA protects spies and others who put themselves at risk to offer what they know for the sake of preserving American safety.

Don't lie now, you're not worried about Russians Ron.

Steve, yes I am worried about Russians. As a young man I have been active in the defense of this country from enemies like Putin.

Why aren't you worried about Russians Steve, are you Russian?

It's not me Ron, it's Obama who didn't care about this Russian.

I can see that you care more for Russia then the U.S., that is the reason why I asked you:

"Why aren't you worried about Russians Steve, are you Russian?"

I'm not Russian Ron, I'm pro-Russian. I had a great Russian co-worker and friend in the early nineties. His name was Yuri and our company never would have succeeded without people like him.

You say that you are pro Russian, you friends name was not Putin, was it? Because that is who is running Russia and not your Russian co-worker unless you worked in The KBG.

You don't know a thing about Putin Ron. You are told certain things and you eat it up.

Then I ask you, do you believe Putin is a friend of democracy end of the United States of America?

I can't answer that Ron, because I don't know Russian. If I knew Russian I could watch Russian news and then I would know about Putin.

Ok! I see that you Want to play the nut roll, WOW 😲!!!

Do you disagree Ron? You really think Roswell Rachel is a better source of news than the Russian stations?

Do you believe Putin is a friend of democracy and of the United States of America?