'It's surreal in the worst possible way': Kenosha reels after Jacob Blake shooting and a week of violence

Spangler called those who did the damage "thugs coming in from outside trying to make a point. I don't think their point is very well received by even the community. When I was talking to people around here, all the African American people up and down the block, 7:30 in the morning watching it burn, they're going, 'Why? Why did they do this?' "

Why all the looting, burning, late night murdering....STOP IT....

....VOTE to CHANGE 2020....never/ever will looting, burning and late night murdering be OK....!

Do you think that the Kenosha police officer was in the right to shoot Jacob Blake seven times in the back as proper police procedure?

It doesn't look good, but were Jacob Blake's actions in accordance with his father's instruction? Why not?

I did not ask you about the Father, what I asked you was: “ Do YOU think that the Kenosha police officer was in the right to shoot Jacob Blake seven times in the back as proper police procedure?”

Now pay attention.

You pay attention Ron. Did Blake's actions affect popo's action?

".....Do you think that the Kenosha police officer was in the right to shoot Jacob Blake seven times

in the back as proper police procedure?...."

Monday, August 31st 2020 at 9:35AM
Deacon Ron Gray

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My past school teachers, wives, employees, contractors, judges and the poLICE have all thought I

TALK too much and should have been an Attorney....

...BUT...I am an OLD man and that is what poLICE do....

As a child one of my friends used to love to skip school and go through folks windows .... in those days

the tvs and stereos were as big as old hondas....and there were NO cell phones,

.....anyway the poLICE cornered my 13 year old friend in a basement AND when they did the autopsy

my 13 year old unarmed friend with 3 dollars from a howard johnsons bank...had 113 BULLET HOLES....

Citizens, poLICE sergeants, Lts., prosecutors and judges make decisions... if it is lawful.....

.....I, as a US-USA Citizen VOTE for those that make the Laws I live by; and never/ever will looting,

burning and late night murdering anything other than LAWLESS....!

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COLORED'whitepoLICE' hate COLORED'blackChristians' for hijacking their racist belief...so yes

for rotten COLORED'whiteRacist christian poLICE', prosecutors and judges the majority of these

US+USA cases are proper poLICE procedures...

...remember the ONLY poLICE that killed a non CITIZEN - COLORED'whiteChristian' at night

WAS CONVICTED by an ALL christian jury in Minneapolis.....was a Muslim poorLICE

Steve, “ Do YOU think that the Kenosha police officer was in the right to shoot Jacob Blake seven times in the back as proper police procedure?”

YES or NO.... You don’t have to run from that question anymore.

I don't have enough information Ron. The answer to your question is indeterminate. I see you have no defense though for ignoring a father's wise advice.

Steve, STOP YOUR BULL 💩, STOP RUNNING LIKE YOU ARE SCARED OF THE TRUTH. What is the matter, you don't believe your very own eyes? WOW!!!

This was a case of Attempted Murder of a father, in front of his children that was in the car.

How much more information do you need.... You are looking right at the evident.

Steve, “ Do YOU think that the Kenosha police officer was in the right to shoot Jacob Blake seven times in the back as proper police procedure?”

YES or NO.... You don’t have to run from that question anymore.

You sound like a Russian troll Ron.

And you can't tell us what YOU think after watching this footage or did you?

I told you Ron. They haven't charged the police, correct. They're in no hurry to confirm or deny your belief. The answer to your question is UNKNOWN.

Same withe Rittenhaus. UNKNOWN.

From the footage that I have provided, in this blog, from what you can see Steve.

In your observation of this video, Did the police act like his life was in danger?

do you think shoot a man seven times in the back is police procedure?

It might be police procedure Ron. I don't know what the police procedure was supposed to be. I don't know what the police saw and heard.

The police procedure is to make a arrest if charging a suspect with a crime, not to shoot that suspect in the back seven times in front of his children Steve. Damn it, you know better then that.

You said it best: "My own thought is, if I can avoid mob violence I will. Having a gun isn't a reason to take unnecessary risks, like when you might be overpowered and the gun taken. 17 years old isn't the most enlightened age."

Why was the officer trying to keep Blake from leaning into the car? Maybe there was a gun under the seat? Remember Ron, you had a clear view into that car.

Stop it Steve, their was NO GUN reported in this case. Officer Rusten Sheskey is a BAD COP that got caught by eye's unseen by him.

It only matters what the officer thought Ron. Let me know when he's been charged. Or maybe the reporting will magically go away like it did for that Oklahoma mass shooting when the cops just refused to talk about it. In the meantime I'd advise any other law breakers to cease and desist when the cops tell you to.

Again Ron, what do you mean by "racial equality'?

So, you support This police Shooting as the way the police should deal with unarmed Black people when they are Disobey and walking away from the COPS, is that right Steve?

No Ron. I support an investigation into this shooting and that the officer should be held to account for his actions. In addition, I would advise anyone, to follow the directions of the police and most importantly, to take responsibility for their own actions, versus reflexively claiming VICTIMHOOD when in fact it was entirely in their power to avoid being a victim. GET IT?

Especially in light of this supposed "talk" that everyone claims to be so ESSENTIAL.

Here’s exactly What I mean by Racial Equality'. Is Americans working together, both Black and Whites Working together as one people, As one-nation under God. With Equal rights under the law of this land, that I was willing to give my life to support So, people like you can keep the freedoms for you to call me names and for you to shoot me, a unarmed black man in the back seven times in this country, that I gave my life too.

I am ESSENTIAL as the head of my household?

I am ESSENTIAL as the head of my household and you are the head of your household makes us equal in this nation regardless of skin color.

I am not "under God" but I am under Law. The Law, 妙法 (miào fǎ) applies to everyone universally. That's why Blake was shot 4 times. The law of our American Constitution also applies to everyone universally. That's why the officer may be indicted. In short Ron, you already possess racial equality.

As a citizen of the United States of America you are a part of one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

Since you say you not under God, then you have a very serious problem and it sounds like you are in favor of cops shooting on armed black man seven times in the back, Am I correct?

So was that MAD COP.

The pledge of allegiance is not constitutional Ron. I guess the Russians forgot to tell you that. You said you believe in "Equal rights under the law of this land." I say that's what you already possess.

'It's surreal in the worst possible way': Kenosha reels after Jacob Blake shooting and a week of violence

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reels....as in tv footage of What happens in America...as American as Apple Pie....?

1) poLICE do some emotional, psychotic CRAZY thing to {ok} African Americans

2) {ok} African Americans make friends with 'COLORED'whiteGirls' ala mlKing...to protest

3) protest is OK, and emotional and COLORED'whiteBlack' "friends"; loot, and burn down area by hood...

4) COLORED'whiteLadies' in "heartland" of america VOTE for the reason they in suburbia...RACISM

5) over and over Systemic actions.....

......BUT........steve writes it sweeter and shorter than our similar thoughts...

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"....You sound like a Russian troll Ron....."

Monday, August 31st 2020 at 10:34PM
Steve Williams

"....Again Ron, what do you mean by "racial equality'?..."

Tuesday, September 1st 2020 at 11:53PM
Steve Williams

The pledge of allegiance is not constitutional Ron.

I guess the Russians forgot to tell you that.

You said you believe in "Equal rights under the law of this land." I say that's what you already possess..."

Wednesday, September 2nd 2020 at 3:31PM
Steve Williams

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true ... steve American Citizens have Equal Constitutional Citizenry....

.....deaCON is of course a russianBOT...or a russhing slave...that cannot READ or Think

russhing to master to beg for something........

Steve, some of the people added the words “under God” to the Pledge and in 1954, President Dwight Eisenhower signed a bill passed by Congress into LAW (The same LAW you claim to follow) that put the words “under God” within the phrase “one nation indivisible.”

Steve, Most notably, in 2004 the Supreme Court ruled in a case brought by an atheist who said a California school’s pledge requirement violated his daughter’s rights under the First Amendment’s Establishment and Free Exercise Clauses. In Elk Grove Unified School District v. Newdow , the Supreme Court did not end up ruling on the legality of the words “under God” in relation to the First Amendment. Instead, Justice John Paul Stevens said Newdow didn’t have standing to bring suit because he lacked sufficient custody over his daughter.

But Chief Justice William Rehnquist and Justices Sandra Day O’Connor and Clarence Thomas wrote separate concurrences, stating that requiring teachers to lead the Pledge, despite the inclusion of the phrase, “under God,” was constitutional.

YOUR WORDS: The pledge of allegiance is not constitutional Ron.

MY REPLY: Not according to Chief Justice William Rehnquist and Justices Sandra Day O’Connor and Clarence Thomas.

I said "NOT constitutional" rather than "UNCONSTITUTIONAL" for a reason Ron. As you know, "God" and "under God" is not in the Constitution. Of course our Union had been thoroughly corrupted by 1954. Nobody, least of all Eisenhower, can put me under God if I refuse to be.

WTF are YOU talking about Steve? You did say: was not constitutional and I showed you proof saying GOD is constitutional. Just to prove my point, show me and the people here in Black in America, where in my last reply, where I used the word "UNCONSTITUTIONAL", can you do that?

The pledge of allegiance is not constitutional Ron. Period.

Before Trump, I wouldn't recite the Pledge of Allegiance. No way would I pledge allegiance to an inanimate object. Now I not only recite it but when I say the words "under God", I say a prayer of gratitude for Trump.

I asked you to show me me and the people here in Black in America, where in my last reply, where I used the word "UNCONSTITUTIONAL", can you do that, now can you?

I see that you can't back up that BULL 💩, you said: "I said "NOT constitutional" rather than "UNCONSTITUTIONAL" for a reason Ron." I really see you don't have and reason and YOU and people like you are helping PUTTIN reelect his hand picked useful idiot get back in office

I also see that you will Pledge your Allegiance to Trump and not to God or your country and Trump will not talk against his willingness to serve Russia instead of The Untied States of America.

Have you heard any word that Trump told Putin about his Head count and rewards for killing our U.S. Troops in the Middle East, on have you?

You should've accepted my statement that I'm not under God. It's not your place to force your superstition on me. You think God is a man and the man I choose is Trump, not Jesus.

I understand who you are.

So tell me about why "the talk" failed in Jacob Blake's case.

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SCHOOL, I CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS LIKE TO WALK OUT THE DOOR OR SEND MY SON OUT THE DOOR OR DAUGHTER AND WORRY ABOUT JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE BLACK, THEY MAY NOT COME BACK. I CANNOT REALLY -- I CAN INTELLECTUALLY UNDERSTAND IT. BUT I CANNOT FEEL IT. I JUST SPENT AN HOUR OR MORE WITH THE FAMILY AS I GOT OFF THE AIRPLANE. I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND SOME TIME WITH JACOB ON THE PHONE. HE IS OUT OF ICU. WE SPOKE FOR ABOUT 15 MINUTES. HIS BROTHER AND TWO SISTERS, HIS DAD AND HIS MOM ON THE TELEPHONE. HE TALKED ABOUT HOW NOTHING WAS GOING TO DEFEAT HIM. HOW WHETHER HE WALKED AGAIN OR NOT, HE WAS NOT GOING TO GIVE UP. WE TALKED ABOUT -- MAY HE RAISE YOU UP ON EAGLES WINGS AND HOLD YOU IN THE PALM OF HIS HAND UNTIL WE MEET AGAIN. I THINK -- THEY UNDERSTAND THAT FEAR DOES NOT SOLVE PROBLEMS. ONLY HOPE DOES. YOU GIVE UP HOPE, YOU MIGHT AS WELL SURRENDER. THERE IS NO REAL OPTION. AS WE TALKED, I LISTENED TO HIS MOM. SHE WAS ON THE PHONE. SHE WAS NOT WITH JACOB. SHE WAS IN THE SAME LOCATION. HIS DAD, HIS SON, HIS BROTHER, TWO SISTERS, AND A FAMILY LAWYER . WHAT I CAME AWAY WITH WAS THE OVERWHELMING SENSE OF RESILIENCE AND OPTIMISM THAT THEY HAD ABOUT THE KIND OF RESPONSE THEY ARE GETTING. HIS MOM -- MY WIFE ASKED TO SAY A PRAYER AND HIS MOM SAID A PRAYER AND SHE SAID, I AM PRAYING FOR JACOB AND I'M PRAYING FOR THE PLACEMENT AS WELL -- THE POLICEMAN AS WELL. I AM PRAYING THAT THINGS CHANGE. IF YOU THINK

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Wow!!! What is that saying about the character of Jacob Blake, as he prays for the man who tried to kill him, Steve?

It doesn't tell me why Jacob Blake would turn his back on cops who had their guns trained on him. Answer the question Ron.

Jacob Blake don't know why Rusten Sheskey, the cop shot him NOT ONCE but SEVEN TIMES.

Now what Jacob Blake prayed to Yahweh (GOD) to forgive Rusten Sheskey, the cop that tried to KILL HIM by shooting him NOT ONCE but SEVEN TIMEs.

Now if you want to know why Rusten Sheskey, the cop shot him NOT ONCE but SEVEN TIMES you would have to ask him.

Jacob Blake prayed for Rusten Sheskey, the cop shot him NOT ONCE but SEVEN TIMES and that is saying a lot about who he is.

When Rusten Sheskey is cleared I'll let you know Ron. I doubt there will even be an indictment. But that won't stop Biden from fanning the flames of mob unrest. There was an important police kill just today. Did you hear about it? It was cop-assisted suicide.

Do you think that police officer Rusten Sheskey acted According to Police procedure?

Do you think that police officer Rusten Sheskey acted According to Police procedure?

We'll know soon enough Ron. Just like in the case of Philando Castile you're just an opportunist with an extremely short memory.

I asked you what do “YOU THINK” Steve.

Do you think that police officer Rusten Sheskey acted According to Police procedure?

Blake was going for a weapon. Were the police supposed to let him get it?

Now that Theory was never proven.

Have you heard any more information about this case?

The media has already moved on to bigger and better crises.

So you can't produce any proof of your BULL 💩 Theory, now can you?

Blake was no martyr. That's why the media backed off.

I repeat, So you can't produce any proof of your BULL 💩 Theory, now can you?

Blake was resisting arrest because he had a knife. He was trying to be slick and put it back in the car. That's your proof. If he were innocent he would have cooperated like his father had always taught him.

You say Blake had a knife and Blake put it back in the car and NOT attacking Rusten Sheskey, the cop shot him NOT ONCE but SEVEN TIMES IN THE BACK, is that what you are saying Steve?

Have I ever reminded you what every cop knows well? A car or truck makes a deadly weapon in the wrong hands. I.E. Blake.

Only if the car was on and a driver was behind the wheel. None of that happened in this film footage now did it?

You say Blake had a knife and Blake put it back in the car and NOT attacking Rusten Sheskey, the cop shot him NOT ONCE but SEVEN TIMES IN THE BACK, in front of his three young children, is that what you are saying Steve?

I'm saying what I always do. We will know when the investigation is complete. But if you can't see the difference between what happened to Breonna Taylor and what happened to Jacob Blake, you must be blind.

Breonna Taylor was inside her home when the police GUNNED her down and Jacob Blake was GUNNED down in the streets by police, Steve they both was GUNNED DOWN BY POLICE, now that is the point.

You say Blake had a knife and Blake put it back in the car and NOT attacking Rusten Sheskey, the cop shot him NOT ONCE but SEVEN TIMES IN THE BACK, in front of his three young children, is that what you are saying Steve?

Breonna Taylor got justice. It was the law that was at fault in her case so they changed the law too. Jacob Blake's case will be judged too and you'll find out every thing you ever wanted to know about weapons and their use against the police.

YOUR WORDS: Breonna Taylor got justice.

MY REPLY: Breonna Taylor won't get 'true justice' until those officers are fired or convicted..

The people, they won't be satisfied until the officers who shot and killed the unarmed Black woman are fired and criminally charged in relation to her death, several protesters said following the announcement.

Our Brothers and Sisters who've spent more than 110 days calling for justice for Breonna Taylor said a $12 million settlement that includes several police reforms is a step toward closure for the city and the 26-year-old's family.

I agree with but it is about holding police accountable and Breonna Taylor won't get justice until those Police officers who shot and killed the unarmed Black woman are fired and criminally charged in relation to her death, several protesters said following the announcement.

'It's surreal in the worst possible way': Kenosha reels after Jacob Blake shooting and a week of violence

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...racistNONSENSE whether from stereotypical historica sources like police, or looters, riots OR

payouts ALL ACROSS USA...damage Taxpaying Communities...YES that is REAL REELING....

YOUR WORDS: YES that is REAL REELING....

What do you you mean by REELING?

'It's surreal in the worst possible way': Kenosha reels......

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REAL REELING...........deaCON subject and my comment on deaCON subject....REELING...

WTF are you talking about? What do you you mean by REELING?

and now you write this BULL 💩: REAL REELING...........deaCON subject and my comment on deaCON subject....REELING...

Do this makes sense to you?

'It's surreal in the worst possible way': Kenosha reels......

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reels....as in tv footage of What happens in America...as American as Apple Pie....?

1) poLICE do some emotional, psychotic CRAZY thing to {ok} African Americans

2) {ok} African Americans make friends with 'COLORED'whiteGirls' ala mlKing...to protest

3) protest is OK, and emotional and COLORED'whiteBlack' "friends"; loot, and burn down area by hood...

4) COLORED'whiteLadies' in "heartland" of america VOTE for the reason they in suburbia...RACISM

5) over and over Systemic actions.....

......BUT........steve writes it sweeter and shorter than our similar thoughts...

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"....You sound like a Russian troll Ron....."

Monday, August 31st 2020 at 10:34PM
Steve Williams

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THEN-9/16/2020

....deaCON; writes this (deaCON BULL 💩 and asks ME?

"....Do this makes sense to you?...."

Wednesday, September 16th 2020 at 11:38AM
Deacon Ron Gray

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Yes, deaCON...my comments above are... REAL... reeling comments

....and TO ME.....

This D O E S make sense to the educated English reader/writer.

You got to be a real JEM.

Today when people are talking about the news, we don't use the term REELING and you are the only one that this BULL 💩 term of yours means anything too, REELING.

ROBERTPOWELL, I thought you was referring to a fishing term. WOW!!!!

Ron, what are you going to do if the officer that shot Breonna Taylor is found to have been following the law as written?

I think Benjamin Crump got too greedy yesterday.

There is NO LAW in this land that states, that a police officer can shoot a person Seven time in the back is justifiable. That fool can't even use defense law, "I believed my LIFE was in danger" that defense.

Now Steve, what would you think and do if, this was your SON?

I think Blake's father did his job and Blake thought he knew better than his dad.

So, you think that the police officer acted according to police procedure and was justified by shooting Blake, NOT ONCE but SEVEN TIMES In the back, in front of his children?

I think the police were not there for nothing.

I also know women can bear false witness. Regardless if that were true or not, I'd never act the way Blake did. Would you Ron?

Just look at you dodging this question Steve, just look at you. I didn’t ask you a thing about why the police was were now did?

I asked you this: So, you think that the police officer acted according to police procedure and was justified by shooting Blake, NOT ONCE but SEVEN TIMES In the back, in front of his children?

Maybe, maybe not. Right now the police have the benefit of the doubt.

All three officers are on administrative leave pending the outcome of the investigation by the Department of Criminal Investigation.

“DCI is continuing to review evidence and determine the facts of this incident and will turn over investigative reports to a prosecutor following a complete and thorough investigation,” reads a statement from DCI.

DCI is expected to turn over their report to the Kenosha County District Attorney’s Office within 30 days. The prosecutor will then decide if charges will be filed.

Steve, are you slow? From what you can see, do you think that the police officer acted according to police procedure and was justified by shooting Blake, NOT ONCE but SEVEN TIMES In the back, in front of his children?

Should I make a judgement from a cellphone recording? No, in this case I should not.

WOW!!! Then you should just Shut-up on this subject then.

I'll be back when we know something then.

You have been dismissed Steven since you can’t think for yourself.

I show my respect for the victims.

Thank You...