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Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, August 18th 2021 at 12:54PM

Former President Trump appeared on FOX News to give his take on the situation in Afghanistan calling the Taliban 'great fighters' and falsely saying they've been fighting for 1,000 years. Fmr. Obama official Ben Rhodes joins to discuss.

Steve Williams Wednesday, August 18th 2021 at 6:24PM

They've been fighting for longer than 1000 years.

Steve Williams Wednesday, August 18th 2021 at 6:42PM

“Our country has been liberated and the mujahideen are victorious in Afghanistan,” one militant told news channel Al Jazeera from the palace.

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/afgha...

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, August 18th 2021 at 8:21PM

YOUR WORDS: They've been fighting for longer than 1000

MY REPLY: Who have been fighting for longer than 1000 years, Steve?

Steve Williams Wednesday, August 18th 2021 at 8:50PM

The jihadists Ron. Ben Rhodes is an idiot. He's talking about a name, Trump and I are talking about the Afghani FOLKS. You and your trivial, childish, "fact" checks.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Wednesday, August 18th 2021 at 9:21PM

Stop trying to LIE for TRUMP Steve. You have the nerve to LIE to my face about Trump was talking about the jihadists, when you can clearly hear him say The Taliban.

So STOP LYING Steve, trying that weak as attempt to cover for TRUMP actions.

Wait a minute, do you actually believe what you say?

Steve Williams Thursday, August 19th 2021 at 1:08AM

Ron, what's the difference between the Taliban, the Mujahideen, and the Jihadists?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, August 19th 2021 at 9:04AM

Taliban

a fundamentalist Muslim movement whose militia took control of much of Afghanistan from early 1995, and in 1996 took Kabul and set up a radical Islamic state. The movement was forcibly removed from power by the US and its allies after the September 11, 2001, attacks.

The Mujahideen

Mujahideen, Arabic mujāhidūn, members of a number of guerrilla groups operating in Afghanistan during the Afghan War (1979–92) that opposed the invading Soviet forces and eventually toppled the Afghan communist government.

The Jihadists

What does the name djihadi mean?

The name Jihad is of Arabic origin. The meaning of Jihad is "struggle, holy war". Jihad is generally used as a boy's name. It consists of 5 letters and 2 syllables and is pronounced Ji-had


What does Jidda mean?

The noun JIDDA has 1 sense: 1. port city in western Saudi Arabia on the Red Sea; near Mecca Meaning: Port city in western Saudi Arabia on the Red Sea; near Mecca Classified under: Nouns denoting spatial position Synonyms: Jed'dah; Jeddah; Jidda; Jiddah Instance hypernyms:

Do you see the difference NOW?


Steve Williams Thursday, August 19th 2021 at 10:47AM

The Taliban emerged in 1994 as one of the prominent factions in the Afghan Civil War[64] and largely consisted of students (talib) from the Pashtun areas of eastern and southern Afghanistan who had been educated in traditional Islamic schools, and fought during the Soviet–Afghan War.[65][9][10][66]

So you see Ron, before they were called the Taliban they were the Mujahideen.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, August 19th 2021 at 4:49PM

Those are two Distinct groups all together, the purposes is different all together.

Steve Williams Thursday, August 19th 2021 at 7:58PM

They've been fighting for 1000 years.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, August 19th 2021 at 8:35PM

Trump mention the Taliban and those words you can hear and see him say that is the LIE Steve or that, Trump don’t know what he is talking about, which one is it?





Steve Williams Thursday, August 19th 2021 at 8:57PM

Trump is easy to understand Ron. I know exactly what he means and that's all that matters. And Trump is right. They've been fighting for 1000 years.

Steve Williams Thursday, August 19th 2021 at 9:04PM

They are the "students of Islam."

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Thursday, August 19th 2021 at 10:26PM

Who Steve, Who?

I did see this report? If you did see this report did you see how long The Taliban has been fighting?



Steve Williams Thursday, August 19th 2021 at 10:40PM

Taliban MEANS "students of Islam." How long have "students of Islam" been fighting Ron? Answer: Over a thousand years.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, August 20th 2021 at 1:01PM

Steve, I asked The World Wide Web and according to this search, it doesn’t Match your definition at all.

What does Taliban mean? English meaning of the militant group’s name explained – and how it started
The word Taliban means ‘students’ or ‘seekers’ in Pashto, one of the two official languages of Afghanistan https://inews.co.uk/news/world/taliban-mea...

You are mixing the truth in this case. The word Taliban is Pashto, طالبان ṭālibān, meaning "students", the plural of ṭālib.
Now Steve, where did you find this: "students of Islam?”



Steve Williams Friday, August 20th 2021 at 2:12PM

That's what they are students of Ron. Islam. Look again.

Steve Williams Friday, August 20th 2021 at 2:25PM

I gave this to you Ron, hot off the web. Do you see what they are STUDENTS OF?

The Taliban emerged in 1994 as one of the prominent factions in the Afghan Civil War[64] and largely consisted of students (talib) from the Pashtun areas of eastern and southern Afghanistan who had been educated in traditional Islamic schools, and fought during the Soviet–Afghan War.[65][9][10][66]

So you see Ron, before they were called the Taliban they were the Mujahideen.

Thursday, August 19th 2021 at 10:47AM
Steve Williams | delete

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, August 20th 2021 at 7:42PM

Taliban means student period. The key word is “Taliban” and not what they had Study. Steve that was not the definition and wrong for you to add to your meaning to the word “Taliban.”


Steve Williams Friday, August 20th 2021 at 8:17PM

I accurately said what they are Ron. Your definition is meaningless.
The country of Afghanistan is terrified of THE STUDENTS! Really?
The Mujahideen, the Students of Islam. That's who the Taliban are.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Friday, August 20th 2021 at 10:48PM

So your as- is so arrogant, that’s your current dismissal The native tongue of a people? Shame on your arrogant as-!

So, you cannot produce a link to back your definition of the Taliban, now can you?






Steve Williams Saturday, August 21st 2021 at 1:00AM

Use your noggin Ron. Definitions are only as good as the user.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, August 21st 2021 at 8:45AM

I am not going to turn my back On the native tongue other people neither. If they say the Taliban mean student and that it, who in the hell do you think you are to add to a definition of a native tongue? You are nobody important to do that.



Steve Williams Saturday, August 21st 2021 at 11:33AM

I kow for a fact, the Taliban have been fighting for a thousand years. If you don't know that, it is your problem Ron, not mine.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, August 21st 2021 at 12:47PM

Now you want to change the subject Steve NO, NO. NO!!! Come back to the subject of what you said:

YOUR WORDS: They are the "students of Islam."

Thursday, August 19th 2021 at 9:04PM
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You have to add to the meaning of Taliban that was "NOT" the original meaning of the word and you can't tell me why?

Do you see what The Taliban means in the native tongue of Pashto? It means exactly what it means. Taliban means STUDENTS and nothing more. Steve, do you understand that?



Steve Williams Saturday, August 21st 2021 at 3:53PM

Ron, I thought you knew about Islam and Afghanistan. Let me find it for you.

Steve Williams Saturday, August 21st 2021 at 4:03PM

Afghanistan's Islam: From Conversion to the Taliban

Edited by Nile Green
Copyright Date: 2017
Published by: University of California Press
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https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1525/j.ctt...
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The conquest of Balkh in 708–9 marked the beginning of the Umayyad caliphate’s control over the lands that are today Afghanistan.¹ Some of the people of Afghanistan rebelled against the new Damascus-based overlords. Others joined the militias that in 749 enabled the rival ‘Abbasid caliphs to take over from the Umayyads. By the ninth century, the city of Balkh was being canonized as the Dome of Islam and its Muslim intellectuals memorialized as saints with sanctuaries deeply intertwined with the Islamic identity of their city of burial. How could the Islamic caliphate become so firmly embedded in classical and...

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Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Saturday, August 21st 2021 at 6:54PM

Stay on the native tongue translation of the Taliban meaning: “Student.”

And not that term you pulled right out of your HAT!

Steve Williams Sunday, August 22nd 2021 at 11:25AM

What are they students of?

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Sunday, August 22nd 2021 at 11:56PM

That’s not your job to know.

Steve Williams Monday, August 23rd 2021 at 3:59PM

But I do know. I have inferred it from this book title:
Afghanistan's Islam: From Conversion to the Taliban
Also from the ACTIONS of the Taliban I see on TV.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, August 23rd 2021 at 4:35PM

You can “ inferred “ all you want but it still, your BULL💩, will not change The definition of “The Taliban.”



Steve Williams Monday, August 23rd 2021 at 5:34PM

I DO know what it means Ron. I don't believe you that the Taliban are not students of Islam.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, August 23rd 2021 at 6:02PM

You don’t have to believe me Steve, what did the definition of the Taliban say?

One thing that definition of Taliban you did say: “STUDENT” and that was it and no more.

So, you are trying your best to make that BULL that you have added, work but that will not happening here Steve.


Steve Williams Monday, August 23rd 2021 at 8:19PM

I'm sad for you Ron.

Dea. Ron Gray Sr. Monday, August 23rd 2021 at 9:14PM

You don't have to Steve because the truth prevailed in this case and that is the GOOD NEWS.

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