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Hey Steve, I want you to review this report and tell me what you think, OK?
Trump knows that he is LYING
Everyone knows that there is no excuse for not knowing that Trump is lying to you about his big lie theory, That the election was stolen from Trump. Simply put Trump just wanted to hold on to a power, that the people of The United States of America told Trump, that he was FIRED from. Steve, it looks like you beginning to believe with story from a liar, Which is own people don’t believe.
Ron, please revise your last sentence so it makes sense.
I hate that greaser Neal Katyal Ron. Ask him how Biden got 80 million votes.
Amid a global pandemic and the highest voter turnout in more than a century, the presidential race has ended with a victory for Joseph R. Biden Jr. with 306 electoral votes. Biden was put over the edge by Pennsylvania’s 20 electoral votes after the state was called on Nov. 7. Biden added later Arizona and Georgia, states that have not voted for a Democrat for president since Bill Clinton.
Follow the latest on Election 2020. By the time all races were called, Biden had received more than 78 million votes across the country — the most votes cast for any presidential candidate in history. That number is likely to grow as final counts come in from Democratic-leaning states, such as California and New York.
Turnout is when folks go to the polls Ron. Turnout is NOT mail-in voting. Biden did NOT get 80 million votes. That's the FACT that you need to start with.
YOUR WORDS: Biden did NOT get 80 million votes. That's the FACT that you need to start with.
MY REPLY: I have a report of 78 million but nevertheless a landslide💩.
Steve, you believe Trump won the 2020 presidential election. How many votes did Trump win by?
Ron, how many of those 78 million votes can you prove who they came from?
All of them Steve.
Steve, you believe Trump won the 2020 presidential election. How many votes did Trump win by?
Here's the problem Ron. There was no excuse why there were this many mail-in votes in Pennsylvania.
4,216,030 - Ballots Cast In-Person on Election Day
Number of in-person ballots cast on November 3 for 2020 general election as reported by counties.
2,637,065 - Mail and Absentee Ballots Cast and Counted for the Election
Number of mail and absentee ballots cast and counted for 2020 general election as reported by counties, including military and overseas civilian ballots.
https://www.dos.pa.gov/VotingElections/BES...
Steve, How many votes did Trump win by? You can't tell me why?
According to the Pennsylvania Election Returns' website, Biden received 1,995,691 mail-in votes to Trump's 595,538. Biden won the state and its 20 electoral votes with 50.1 percent of the vote to Trump's 48.84 percent.
Figure Biden got about a half-million real mail-in votes Ron, not 1,995,691. That's ridiculous.
Biden's Nearly 2M Mail-In Pennsylvania Votes in 2020 Would Now Be 'Unconstitutional'
https://www.newsweek.com/bidens-nearly-2m-...
Can you provide any proof that Trump won The 2020 presidential election?
So far you have NOT answered my question, that is something you have not done that yet, WHY?
We MAGA are satisfied with our proof Ron. We have our eyes set on the prize -- reinstalling Trump in 2024.
Oh!!! I see now, you are apart of MAGA. Even MAGA feels that they was being used by TRUMP. Steve, where is your proof that TRUMP won the 2020 Presidential election and how much TRUMP won by. Stop your BULL💩 and show the people here on Black In America you proof, a link will do.
Can you do that?
I see you want to dwell on the past Ron. In the present and near future we are stuck with Biden. If we could getrid of that poser we would, but he's dug in like a tick. We have to wait for our champion in 2024.
NO, NO!!! Not So Fast Slick... Where in the world are you going, Steve? All I want to know is: "Where is your proof that makes you believe that TRUMP won The 2020 Presidential election and how much TRUMP won by, that is all.
That is not dwelling in the past, the information that I am asking you to supply would be truly "BREAKING NEWS" to this day.
Now can you provide that information on your next reply?
Trump won with 306 electoral votes, possibly more.
Steve, this should be easy for you to provide the link to new news, you can do that can't you?
Ron, I'm talking about the alternate Electors, like the 20 alternate Pennsylvania Electors. Mike Pence had a lawful duty to consider them.
Trump's Fake Electors In PA: Here's The Full List https://patch.com/pennsylvania/across-pa/t... Can't you see that all of this was planned long before Jan 6th 2020.
Of course it was, it had to be done by December 14. How are the Electors "supposed" to be selected Ron?
In most states the winner of the local election, takes all.
Article II, section 1 of the Constitution and the 12th and 20th amendments are the primary sources of law governing the Electoral College and the counting of votes for the Presidency. Title 3, Chapter 1 of the U.S. Code fleshes out the details where the Constitution leaves room for additional regulation.
All one candidate needs to be President of The United States is only 270 candidate.
So the winner-take-all laws are State laws. Is it fair and in accord with the U.S. Constitution, that only Rupublicans and Democrats are members of the elite club called the Electoral College, and Libertarians and Green Party are barred from the club?
You know it is about the people's vote Steve. You know for a fact that it is more Republicans and Democrats than it is Libertarians and Green Party.
All those State laws written by the Democrats and Repuplicans colluding, are un-Constitutional Ron.
Steve, you never did produce your so-called fact that Trump won.
Trump won with 306 electoral votes, possibly more.
Tuesday, July 26th 2022 at 6:34AM
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Do you have a link where I can read your so-called FACTS that TRUMP won by 306 electoral votes?
Since those state laws are unconstitutional, Biden's "win" is unconstitutional.
Answer my question Steve: "Do you have a link where I can read your so-called FACTS that TRUMP won by 306 electoral votes?
NO
Do you know why you don’t have a link to these words of yours?
I didn't get my facts from any link that you would understand Ron. You act like the "winner-take-all" laws don't matter.
Then where did you get your FACTS from then?
Take me to where you got that information that told you this:
Trump won with 306 electoral votes, possibly more.
Where did you get that BULL 💩 from?
Tuesday, July 26th 2022 at 6:34AM
Steve Williams | delete | block member
That's right Ron, 306 electoral votes is a conservative estimate.
Election-denier Mark Finchem wins Arizona GOP secretary of state primary, NBC News projects
With his win, Finchem, who continues to falsely claim that President Joe Biden did not win the 2020 election in the state, gets one step closer to being the top elections official in Arizona, a crucial swing state where efforts by Trump allies to overturn the last presidential election have persisted in the years since the race.
If elected, Finchem would, as the official who oversees the state office administering the 2024 presidential election, have the power to possibly affect the outcome of the race. Experts say that scenario could contribute to an even more robust effort to overturn a presidential election. Trump is weighing another bid in 2024.
So, you can't take me to a site or a news clip, or an official record that backs up your claim, can you?
Now I want to show your proof that Biden won Arizona's electoral vote and it appears in Arizona that is a state where the winner takes all electors.
Steve, here is my proof now take advantage of the truth and drop that LIE Steve.
Electoral College Certificates and Votes by State https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college...
OH!!! By the way, Steve, If I was to give you Arizona' that would be only 11 electoral votes, still you don't have enough votes to overturn The 2020 Presidential Election.
The winner-take-all states have all colluded illegally Ron. Every one of them violates the U.S. Constitutionn and I can priove it. You can't disenfranchise all the folks that don't vote either Republican or Democrat.
Where is that law, do you have a link Stating that fact or is that something you just pulled out of your backside?
So far, you have improved the thing you have said yet to date, why?
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Now this I reconize as the first part of The Fourteenth Amendment of The U.S. Constitution of the United States and don't support any of your claims that the winner-take-all states have all colluded illegally Steve. Who are you trying to BULL💩.
Face it, Steve you have been conned by TRUMP lies and you can't provide any proof of truth to Trump's words because it is all a LIE, Steve.
Ron, according to the fourteenth amendment, you can't disenfranchise folks just because they don't vote Democrat or Republican. The votes for Libertarians, Greens and other third-party candidates should translate into Electoral votes, if you want a true democracy.
Steve, why don’t you work to change the law to fit your Narrow view of voting. I’m sure you will quickly find that the system have checks and counter checks, balances Encounter balances because both parties are Equally represented at the time of counting the votes.
No Ron, the popular vote is way overrated. If it's only going to be Republicans and Democrats, let the State legislatures do it. Doug Mastriano for Governor!
Voting will continue in a free and fair environment which exist today voting. Steve are you looking to change the way we vote in the United States of America?
Yes Ron, I want to change the way we vote. The Presidency is much too important to leave it to hoi poloi. The state legislators should pick the Electors.
BULL💩 Steve, The Voice of People like you, me and 338,308,043 other Americans can have a voice in the way we elect our politicians. Now to change that system of democracy would mean, this country would no longer be, the home of the FREE.
Steve, is that what you want for this country?
Ron, I want to repeal the right of the people to vote for the President, because that right doesn't exist in the Constitution.
You don’t know 💩 about The U.S. Constitution about that is what The 25th is all about?
Twelfth Amendment
But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice.
You don’t know 💩 about US Constitution. Why would you try to mislead the reader’s to your response?
Wow!!!🐵🙈🙉
Article II, Section 1. A portion of the 12th Amendment was changed by the 20th Amendment
Steve, are you serious? You did graduate eighth grade didn’t you? You should’ve learned about the constitution back then but I see that didn’t happen.
Do you know what the 25th amendment in the US constitution is? If you do post it in your next reply OK?
The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President...
I see you can't answer the question.... OK Steve.
You don't know what you're talking about Ron. What the hell is this supposed to be? "Article II, Section 1. A portion of the 12th Amendment was changed by the 20th Amendment"
Take a look 👀: The 20th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution concerns term limits of presidents and vice presidents of the United States, as well as those of members of Congress. Specifically, the 20th Amendment moved the beginning of the terms of the president and vice president from March 4 to January 20.
Now do you see what I am talking about Steve?
Steve, don’t you ever tell anybody this 💩 again:
“ Ron, I want to repeal the right of the people to vote for the President, because that right doesn't exist in the Constitution. “
Tuesday, August 9th 2022 at 12:39AM
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Trump Brought ‘Rumor After Rumor’ To Officials At DOJ Says Neal Katyal
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msMBC-Neal Katyal?
Posted By: Deacon Ron Gray
Monday, June 13th 2022 at 10:40PM
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if mcNBC-Neal Katyal; in 8/2022 finally figured out trump$$ette LIED and RUMORED of LYING...they are FAKE NEWS centralUSA
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as usual
..the uneducated russianBOT..anti CONTITUTION USA; masquerading as a vile writing chicago racist...is no match for the "educated' his own mind-thining steve
Robert Powell, what is this blog subject?
Ron, tell me when the People started voting for President.
Here you go Steve, the First U.S. presidential election
Congress sets January 7, 1789 as the date by which states are required to choose electors for the country's first-ever presidential election. A month later, on February 4, George Washington was elected president by state electors and sworn into office on April 30, 1789.
"..Robert Powell, what is this blog subject?.."
Thursday, August 11th 2022 at 12:49PM
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Here you go Steve, the First U.S. presidential election
Congress sets January 7, 1789 as the date by which states are required to choose electors for the country's first-ever presidential election. A month later, on February 4, George Washington was elected president
by state electors and sworn into office on April 30, 1789.
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Trump Brought ‘Rumor After Rumor’ To Officials At DOJ Says Neal Katyal
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msMBC-Neal Katyal?
Posted By: Deacon Ron Gray
Monday, June 13th 2022 at 10:40PM
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if mcNBC-Neal Katyal; in 8/2022 finally figured out trump$$ette LIED and RUMORED of LYING...they are FAKE NEWS centralUSA
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as usual
..the uneducated russianBOT..anti CONTITUTION USA; masquerading as a vile writing chicago racist...is no match for the "educated' his own mind-thining steve
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LYING russianBOT..Go back to Moscow STAY away from African American Family sites...striking division-Futility
..All educated African Americans can READ - for the steveWilliams deaCON blags..yet deaCON is afraid of African AMerican Citizen Free Speech
Mr. Robert Powell, let's talk to the subject OK! Robert, did you review this video?
Not quite Ron, here you go.
Individual states select electors by methods decided at the state level. Since 1836, all states have selected electors by statewide popular vote. See the United States Electoral College article for more information.
Did I answer your question, Steve?
I answered my own question Ron, as usual.
You question to me was:
Ron, tell me when the People started voting for President.
Thursday, August 11th 2022 at 1:54PM
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Here you go Steve, the First U.S. presidential election
Congress sets January 7, 1789 as the date by which states are required to choose electors for the country's first-ever presidential election. A month later, on February 4, George Washington was elected president by state electors and sworn into office on April 30, 1789.
Thursday, August 11th 2022 at 5:09PM
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Did I answer your question Steve?
I said "People" Ron. That means the people as a whole, all the people of the United States. The correct answer is 1836.
Hey Steve, on your next reply, give me that link that you got that information "That means the people as a whole, all the people of the United States. The correct answer is 1836, Okay?
It's right at the start of our Constitution Ron.
A huge amount of thought went into the wording of the United States Constitution. Therefore, it is no coincidence that the constitution’s preamble starts with ‘We the People.’
What is We the People?
We the People refers to everybody who lives in the United States and is governed by the constitution.
https://constitutionus.com/constitution/we...
Every U.S. Presidential Election Since 1789
As it did in 1789, the United States still uses the Electoral College system, established by the U.S. Constitution, which today gives all American citizens over the age of 18 the right to vote for electors, who in turn vote for the president. First U.S. presidential election https://www.history.com/this-day-in-histor...
Where in the world did you get that 1836 data from because you did not get that date from the link you shared with me Steve?
Here's another link I followed from that article Ron, I thought you'd be interested.
https://books.google.com/books?id=ojEVx7Fl...
Here's the original article, click on "note 1" on the third line.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_State...
What page should I direct my attention on?
Sorry Ron, it was in this article.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_State...
Footnote 43 took me to an exerpt and then I did a search on "Essays in Elections The Electoral College" and found the Google book.
OK Steve, I see your point.
I know…
Ron, you know what problem(s) the institution of the Electors was intended to solve?
It creates the possibility for the loser of the popular vote to win the electoral vote. This is more than a theoretical possibility. It has happened at least four times out of the 56 presidential elections, or more than 7 percent of the time, which is not such a small percentage, and it created a hideous mess every time. The most recent occurrence was 2000.
In order to appreciate the reasons for the Electoral College, it is essential to understand its historical context and the problem that the Founding Fathers were trying to solve. They faced the difficult question of how to elect a president in a nation that:
- was composed of thirteen large and small States jealous of their own rights and powers and suspicious of any central national government
- contained only 4,000,000 people spread up and down a thousand miles of Atlantic seaboard barely connected by transportation or communication (so that national campaigns were impractical even if they had been thought desirable)
- believed, under the influence of such British political thinkers as Henry St. John Bolingbroke, that political parties were mischievous if not downright evil, and
felt that gentlemen should not campaign for public office (The saying was "The office should seek the man, the man should not seek the office.").
How, then, to choose a president without political parties, without national campaigns, and without upsetting the carefully designed balance between the presidency and the Congress on one hand and between the States and the federal government on the other?
Now what did Bill Bar tell Trump and the boys about the election?
That there was no fraud?
What else, there was more that Bill Bar told Trump?
Spit it out Ron. I can't read your mind, nor would I want to.
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